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Can we make an offer sheet work

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Équipe: 2021-22 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 19 janv. 2021
Publié: 19 janv. 2021
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RFAANSCAP HIT
44 500 000 $
43 000 000 $
42 500 000 $
76 800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
32 000 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
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Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Tkachuk, Brady9 520 000 $
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022
Choix de 3e ronde en 2022
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023
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CGY
ANA
  1. Giordano, Mark
Détails additionnels:
Seattle
2.
CGY
OTT
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (CGY)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (CGY)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (CGY)
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Offer sheet compensation
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2021
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $74 462 500 $0 $0 $7 037 500 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
6 800 000 $6 800 000 $
AG
UFA - 7
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 375 000 $6 375 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 425 000 $2 425 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 237 500 $1 237 500 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
750 000 $750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
750 000 $750 000 $
DG
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19 janv. 2021 à 14 h 8
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not at that price -- easily matched
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19 janv. 2021 à 14 h 9
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Who we gonna offer sheet???
19 janv. 2021 à 14 h 10
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not at that price -- easily matched


Im trying to fix it
19 janv. 2021 à 14 h 10
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not at that price -- easily matched


Trying to fix it
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19 janv. 2021 à 14 h 10
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Only way Sens don't match an offersheet would be if it was something outrageous, and brought them back 4 x 1st (Which is a HUUUUUUGE overpay).

Brady is going to be a Sen for a while.
19 janv. 2021 à 14 h 12
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ottawa has so much capspace there no way he leaves on an offersheet, youd have to trade for him unless you want to offer like a max contract
19 janv. 2021 à 14 h 15
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As others said, there's not really a way for Calgary to offer sheet Brady unless it was something ridiculous. It would probably take a contract in the highest bracket which is around 10.9mil+ and would give Ottawa four 1st round picks. Obviously, Calgary would never give him that contract. If they did want Brady, it would most likely have to be through trade but I'm not sure if Calgary has any top prospects or players that Ottawa would be interested in.
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19 janv. 2021 à 14 h 19
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ottawa has so much capspace there no way he leaves on an offersheet, youd have to trade for him unless you want to offer like a max contract


If Matthew was out what would it take to trade for Brady's rights?
19 janv. 2021 à 14 h 22
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Nothing Calgary would part with
19 janv. 2021 à 14 h 23
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Two things you need to make an offer sheet work, first, the player has to sign it, second, the team has to pass on matching it. Ottawa has loads of cap space, and the desire to match almost anything when it comes to Brady. Brady likes it in Ottawa with his best friends. It's likely 0/2 on the two things you need to make an offer sheet work.
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19 janv. 2021 à 14 h 24
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If Matthew was out what would it take to trade for Brady's rights?


idk im not really sure but id have to think dube++ or andersson or something among those lines, wouldnt look to move him for futures
19 janv. 2021 à 15 h 28
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If Matthew was out what would it take to trade for Brady's rights?


It's not a package Calgary would, could, or should part with. It's a package that is embarrassing to even type out because it's so laughably over the top that nobody would ever suggest it.

The thing with Brady is that he now transcends his value. It's a little ridiculous, admittedly, but the whole Sens organization and fanbase has basically taken their once passionate love and adoration for Erik Karlsson, Mark Stone, the good 'ole days with Spezza, Alfie and Heatley/Hossa, and every bit of positivity that's left surrounding the Ottawa Senators and packaged it into one Brady Tkachuk. You could argue Chabot and now Stützle share some of that, and I'd absolutely agree, but Tkachuk is the heart and soul of this Ottawa Senators team now and will forever be the identity of it. So not only is he a high end player, bordering on elite if not already pushing the bubble with how incredibly impressive his underlying stats are, he's got leadership and intangibles that can't be quantified, and then you have this deep rooted chokehold that the fanbase has on him. It's insane. He's hideous. We hated that we picked this giant manchild in the draft, and yet he's so good and does everything right and now it's hard not to love him.

It's like if the Habs were to trade Brendan Gallagher. He's a damn good player, and his underlying numbers suggest he's potentially even better than his usage has allowed, but even beyond that he's everything that that team exudes. He is the Montreal Canadiens. I think he would have made a wonderful captain, although Shea was a great choice too and they couldn't really go wrong. Gallagher holds more value to the Canadiens than he does in a trade because any team will simply be buying for the on-ice performance and the off-ice intangibles but won't be considering what he means to that team. The Habs would lose any trade that wasn't a vast overpayment.

If the Flames wanted Brady, it would take something so inconceivable that the Sens would be stupid to say no. Like a four 1st offersheet. Or a package including multiple guys like Dubé, Välimäki, Zary, Pelletier, etc. alongside picks and active talent. We're talking about something that guts that Flames that no team should ever consider.
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19 janv. 2021 à 16 h 51
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It's not a package Calgary would, could, or should part with. It's a package that is embarrassing to even type out because it's so laughably over the top that nobody would ever suggest it.

The thing with Brady is that he now transcends his value. It's a little ridiculous, admittedly, but the whole Sens organization and fanbase has basically taken their once passionate love and adoration for Erik Karlsson, Mark Stone, the good 'ole days with Spezza, Alfie and Heatley/Hossa, and every bit of positivity that's left surrounding the Ottawa Senators and packaged it into one Brady Tkachuk. You could argue Chabot and now Stützle share some of that, and I'd absolutely agree, but Tkachuk is the heart and soul of this Ottawa Senators team now and will forever be the identity of it. So not only is he a high end player, bordering on elite if not already pushing the bubble with how incredibly impressive his underlying stats are, he's got leadership and intangibles that can't be quantified, and then you have this deep rooted chokehold that the fanbase has on him. It's insane. He's hideous. We hated that we picked this giant manchild in the draft, and yet he's so good and does everything right and now it's hard not to love him.

It's like if the Habs were to trade Brendan Gallagher. He's a damn good player, and his underlying numbers suggest he's potentially even better than his usage has allowed, but even beyond that he's everything that that team exudes. He is the Montreal Canadiens. I think he would have made a wonderful captain, although Shea was a great choice too and they couldn't really go wrong. Gallagher holds more value to the Canadiens than he does in a trade because any team will simply be buying for the on-ice performance and the off-ice intangibles but won't be considering what he means to that team. The Habs would lose any trade that wasn't a vast overpayment.

If the Flames wanted Brady, it would take something so inconceivable that the Sens would be stupid to say no. Like a four 1st offersheet. Or a package including multiple guys like Dubé, Välimäki, Zary, Pelletier, etc. alongside picks and active talent. We're talking about something that guts that Flames that no team should ever consider.


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