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Drouin Trade Your Thoughts

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Équipe: 2020-21 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 19 janv. 2021
Publié: 19 janv. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
COL
  1. Drouin, Jonathan (2 250 000 $ retained)
MTL
  1. Donskoi, Joonas
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (COL)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $79 751 387 $0 $2 500 000 $1 748 613 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 571 429 $5 571 429 $
AG, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 5
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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874 125 $874 125 $
C
UFA - 1
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
DD
UFA - 1
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3 333 333 $3 333 333 $
G
UFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 7
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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3 450 000 $3 450 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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3 166 667 $3 166 667 $
DG
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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725 000 $725 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Équipe de réserve
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925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DD
RFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
DG/DD
RFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
842 500 $842 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
G
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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19 janv. 2021 à 11 h 39
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😂
19 janv. 2021 à 11 h 40
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I'm not trying to be mean at all. Why?
19 janv. 2021 à 11 h 41
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That's a no
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19 janv. 2021 à 11 h 42
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Why would Montreal retain on that deal? Also, I don't think your value is enough.
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19 janv. 2021 à 11 h 44
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I'm not trying to be mean at all. Why?

Uh because the Avalanche could benefit from getting a decent third line player.
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19 janv. 2021 à 11 h 45
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The value seems way off to me. Why would Montreal downgrade from Drouin to Donskoi for a 4th round pick? In addition, they'd be retaining on Drouin for 3 years so they'd lose cap from this trade. Try retaining less on Drouin and sending a higher draft pick or prospect.
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19 janv. 2021 à 11 h 47
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19 janv. 2021 à 11 h 48
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MTL declines- proceeds to feed you bread

YAY BREAD!
19 janv. 2021 à 11 h 48
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Since when was Jim Rutherford the GM of the Habs?
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19 janv. 2021 à 11 h 52
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19 janv. 2021 à 11 h 52
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No

Ok! I apologize for wasting your time.
19 janv. 2021 à 11 h 54
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bad, very bad
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19 janv. 2021 à 11 h 55
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bad, very bad

I am sorry you feel that way.
19 janv. 2021 à 12 h 8
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im a huge Drouin hater but that doesnt do anything for value for the Habs and if you want a 3rd line player, Drouin is not a guy for that role, he needs to be in the top 6 and you just over look how poorly defensive he is.

Drouin on a 3rd line is a waste
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19 janv. 2021 à 12 h 14
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Uh because the Avalanche could benefit from getting a decent third-line player.


I was trying to be nice but... Uh ok, this seems to be a quintessential post that misrepresents each player and their unequal merit. You are not wrong in saying "uh because the Avalanche could benefit from getting a decent third-line player" but is reasonable to assume that it is doubtful for a Top 6 forward in J.D, with millions of dollars in salary retention, could ever equate to Jonas Donskoi and a 6th round pick.

Jonathan Drouin - Games Played - 352
Jonathan Drouin - Points - 212

Jonas Donskoi - Games Played - 350
Jonas Donskoi - 156 Points

I was not trying to be rude, I honestly wanted to know why this trade made sense to both teams.

Thank you.
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19 janv. 2021 à 12 h 22
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Quoting: Jarmo
I was trying to be nice but... Uh ok, this seems to be a quintessential post that misrepresents each player and their unequal merit. You are not wrong in saying "uh because the Avalanche could benefit from getting a decent third-line player" but is reasonable to assume that it is doubtful for a Top 6 forward in J.D, with millions of dollars in salary retention, could ever equate to Jonas Donskoi and a 6th round pick.

Jonathan Drouin - Games Played - 352
Jonathan Drouin - Points - 212

Jonas Donskoi - Games Played - 350
Jonas Donskoi - 156 Points

I was not trying to be rude, I honestly wanted to know why this trade made sense to both teams.

Thank you.


Drouin does have more points than Donskoi, but Donskoi brings a lot more off the puck than Drouin does.

It's an interesting trade proposal, and it would save Colorado some capspace and get a better player - in a vacuum.

However, as @coga16 said, Drouin isn't a good fit on the 3rd line, nor is he a good fit for Bednar's style which requires strong two-way play and back-checking from forwards.

That being the case, despite it being a good trade value-wise, it's just not a good fit. Unless of course you try to squeeze Drouin into a very sheltered offensive role on the 2nd line somehow, like this for example:

Landeskog ---- Mackinnon ---- Rantanen
Drouin ------------- Kadri --------- Nichuskin
Saad -------------- Compher ----- Burakovsky
Calvert ---------- Bellemare ----- Jost
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19 janv. 2021 à 12 h 36
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Quoting: Richard88
Drouin does have more points than Donskoi, but Donskoi brings a lot more off the puck than Drouin does.

It's an interesting trade proposal, and it would save Colorado some capspace and get a better player - in a vacuum.

However, as @coga16 said, Drouin isn't a good fit on the 3rd line, nor is he a good fit for Bednar's style which requires strong two-way play and back-checking from forwards.

That being the case, despite it being a good trade value-wise, it's just not a good fit. Unless of course you try to squeeze Drouin into a very sheltered offensive role on the 2nd line somehow, like this for example:

Landeskog ---- Mackinnon ---- Rantanen
Drouin ------------- Kadri --------- Nichuskin
Saad -------------- Compher ----- Burakovsky
Calvert ---------- Bellemare ----- Jost


Well said.
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19 janv. 2021 à 12 h 39
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Quoting: Richard88
Drouin does have more points than Donskoi, but Donskoi brings a lot more off the puck than Drouin does.

It's an interesting trade proposal, and it would save Colorado some capspace and get a better player - in a vacuum.

However, as @coga16 said, Drouin isn't a good fit on the 3rd line, nor is he a good fit for Bednar's style which requires strong two-way play and back-checking from forwards.

That being the case, despite it being a good trade value-wise, it's just not a good fit. Unless of course you try to squeeze Drouin into a very sheltered offensive role on the 2nd line somehow, like this for example:

Landeskog ---- Mackinnon ---- Rantanen
Drouin ------------- Kadri --------- Nichuskin
Saad -------------- Compher ----- Burakovsky
Calvert ---------- Bellemare ----- Jost


MacKinnon and a 2nd vs Danault and a 1st is an interesting trade for MTL if COL retained 2M of MacKinnon. Yeah, it’s interesting for MTL, not so for COL. Same as your trade proposal, interesting for COL, garbage for MTL
19 janv. 2021 à 12 h 43
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MacKinnon and a 2nd vs Danault and a 1st is an interesting trade for MTL if COL retained 2M of MacKinnon. Yeah, it’s interesting for MTL, not so for COL. Same as your trade proposal, interesting for COL, garbage for MTL


Yeah, cause those trades are the same thing.
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19 janv. 2021 à 12 h 45
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Yeah, cause those trades are the same thing.


Almost, 2 horrible trades
19 janv. 2021 à 12 h 51
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MacKinnon and a 2nd vs Danault and a 1st is an interesting trade for MTL if COL retained 2M of MacKinnon. Yeah, it’s interesting for MTL, not so for COL. Same as your trade proposal, interesting for COL, garbage for MTL


It wasn't my trade proposal. I clearly agree that it's not good for Montreal.
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19 janv. 2021 à 12 h 55
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Could make more sense in the offseason - Slot Durin into Saad's spot for a bit of Cap savings and fill 3rd line with a FA
19 janv. 2021 à 13 h 6
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It wasn't my trade proposal. I clearly agree that it's not good for Montreal.


I just never understand when someone is giving a bad idea ( or he was trolling ), people comes debate... like no, it’s bad for MTL, you wouldn’t want to give what MTL would want for Drouin. End of the story Sticking Out Tongue
19 janv. 2021 à 13 h 21
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I just never understand when someone is giving a bad idea ( or he was trolling ), people comes debate... like no, it’s bad for MTL, you wouldn’t want to give what MTL would want for Drouin. End of the story Sticking Out Tongue


You're right about that. Montreal fans have repeatedly asked for Girard for Drouin, but that clearly is never going to happen.
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19 janv. 2021 à 15 h 50
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MTL says yes before you can notice what you did.
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