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Équipe: 2020-21 Sharks de San Jose
Date de création initiale: 9 janv. 2021
Publié: 18 janv. 2021
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  1. Roslovic, Jack [Droits de RFA]
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18 janv. 2021 à 2 h 8
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I honestly could see a trade like this happening, SJ needs a guy like Roslovic at C and has pieces wpg would be interested in.
18 janv. 2021 à 4 h 7
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I don't like the idea of trading away a ton of picks but I do think this is a fair trade.
18 janv. 2021 à 4 h 20
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Quoting: tsyls
I honestly could see a trade like this happening, SJ needs a guy like Roslovic at C and has pieces wpg would be interested in.


Quoting: RawZuccSauce420
I don't like the idea of trading away a ton of picks but I do think this is a fair trade.


I do feel like the ingredients are there for a trade like this, the issue San Jose has is a BUNCH of 3rd line depth and defensive depth that aren’t going to be getting a fair shot any time soon. You could even add someone like Suomela and change the 2nd to a 3rd, but I’m sure Winnipeg would rather have quality over quantity and at least one defenseman coming back.
18 janv. 2021 à 6 h 9
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I honestly could see a trade like this happening, SJ needs a guy like Roslovic at C and has pieces wpg would be interested in.


is he even a center though. You are talking about a guy with a career 44.8% faceoff and under 200 FO taken.
He showed some improvement last year, but I think that's because they hid him more. He only took 140 last year.
He is young and still developing, but still. His FO% and his points totals for a guy who got 15 min per game doesn't equal out.
I think this is an overpay by SJS. Middleton isn't all that great, fine, but that's a high 2nd round pick to add on top of these 2 guys.
This is why WPG isn't paying him. Rightfully so.
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18 janv. 2021 à 6 h 11
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is he even a center though. You are talking about a guy with a career 44.8% faceoff and under 200 FO taken.
He showed some improvement last year, but I think that's because they hid him more. He only took 140 last year.
He is young and still developing, but still. His FO% and his points totals for a guy who got 15 min per game doesn't equal out.
I think this is an overpay by SJS. Middleton isn't all that great, fine, but that's a high 2nd round pick to add on top of these 2 guys.
This is why WPG isn't paying him. Rightfully so.


Even if he isn’t being used as a center, he’d be a dramatic improvement in center depth for the Sharks.
18 janv. 2021 à 9 h 51
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is he even a center though. You are talking about a guy with a career 44.8% faceoff and under 200 FO taken.
He showed some improvement last year, but I think that's because they hid him more. He only took 140 last year.
He is young and still developing, but still. His FO% and his points totals for a guy who got 15 min per game doesn't equal out.
I think this is an overpay by SJS. Middleton isn't all that great, fine, but that's a high 2nd round pick to add on top of these 2 guys.
This is why WPG isn't paying him. Rightfully so.


He is a center, he had his best years in the ahl playing C, when he got to the NHL he ran into a sh*tty coach in Maurice. Roslovic should have gotten an extended look at 2C over the lest two years, but Maurice is an awful coach. He should be playing C, and if he had the opportunity to prepare for a season at c, I’m sure you’d see a huge amount of improvement. His stats are pretty deceiving, he’s played with 2 guys that couldn’t score to save their life. He gets ozone starts, but he’ll never have solid point totals playing with copp and Lowry as they literally can’t finish.
18 janv. 2021 à 10 h 15
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He is a center, he had his best years in the ahl playing C, when he got to the NHL he ran into a sh*tty coach in Maurice. Roslovic should have gotten an extended look at 2C over the lest two years, but Maurice is an awful coach. He should be playing C, and if he had the opportunity to prepare for a season at c, I’m sure you’d see a huge amount of improvement. His stats are pretty deceiving, he’s played with 2 guys that couldn’t score to save their life. He gets ozone starts, but he’ll never have solid point totals playing with copp and Lowry as they literally can’t finish.


His face offs over his career do not suggest he is a C at the NHL level. It is harder to play C at the NHL level than it is at the AHL level. Most guys as they go up in difficulty go from C to wing. This is really no different here. You say he's a ****ty coach. I say he made a realistic judgement call based off the guys play.
You can also blame other guys for "not finishing" but it's not like he's finishing himself.
also I call bs on his teammates. Guys like Lowry play half as many minutes as him, and get like 38% of their starts in the Ozone.
So there is no way in hell these are his line mates. all the time and that they are the "reason" between the bad numbers here. That's just some pure BS as the numbers simply don't add up.

It's not everyone else's fault here. At some point the player has to play better.
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18 janv. 2021 à 10 h 40
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His face offs over his career do not suggest he is a C at the NHL level. It is harder to play C at the NHL level than it is at the AHL level. Most guys as they go up in difficulty go from C to wing. This is really no different here. You say he's a ****ty coach. I say he made a realistic judgement call based off the guys play.
You can also blame other guys for "not finishing" but it's not like he's finishing himself.
also I call bs on his teammates. Guys like Lowry play half as many minutes as him, and get like 38% of their starts in the Ozone.
So there is no way in hell these are his line mates. all the time and that they are the "reason" between the bad numbers here. That's just some pure BS as the numbers simply don't add up.

It's not everyone else's fault here. At some point the player has to play better.


Listen, I know you’ve probably never watched the Jets, and probably have never even followed them a little bit in depth. Yes at some point it’s his fault, but he’s been screwed every step of the way. He plays with lowry and copp, so not sure why you’re saying that’s bs. If you watched 1 Jets game last year you would’ve seen that. Also, not much Roslovic can do in the ozone when you have two stone hands on your line. Also you can’t even say that he’s not a C when he’s never had a legitimate shot to play C. @MisstheWhalers I feel so bad rosy getting dumped on
18 janv. 2021 à 10 h 44
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Even if he isn’t being used as a center, he’d be a dramatic improvement in center depth for the Sharks.


I don't argue that but I don't think he's worth what you are giving up for him. Nor do I think that is saying much.
18 janv. 2021 à 10 h 51
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Listen, I know you’ve probably never watched the Jets, and probably have never even followed them a little bit in depth. Yes at some point it’s his fault, but he’s been screwed every step of the way. He plays with lowry and copp, so not sure why you’re saying that’s bs. If you watched 1 Jets game last year you would’ve seen that. Also, not much Roslovic can do in the ozone when you have two stone hands on your line. Also you can’t even say that he’s not a C when he’s never had a legitimate shot to play C. @MisstheWhalers I feel so bad rosy getting dumped on


I'm not sure what you mean by legitimate shot. Is there some form of special advantage he's suppose to have to actually not have 40% faceoffs. Usually when a guy is basically demoted from taking face offs after a year where he was a 44% to limit his role in them cutting the number down and limiting his opponents that kind of says something.

Also you keep going on about linemates. Go look at the numbers, do the math.
Lowry had 733 minutes last year 108 of which were PK time So you are looking at basically 620 minutes of ice time.
Jack had 1057 minutes of ice time last year only 2 of which were PK time.
We can go over this time and time again. But that f ing math doesn't add up.
So don't sit here and tell me about how I know nothing, don't watch etc....
Use some numbers break it down. Realize he's had a lot of ice time when that is not his line mate.
It's not all on someone else.
Call a spade a spade.
18 janv. 2021 à 12 h 20
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Quoting: tsyls
He is a center, he had his best years in the ahl playing C, when he got to the NHL he ran into a sh*tty coach in Maurice. Roslovic should have gotten an extended look at 2C over the lest two years, but Maurice is an awful coach. He should be playing C, and if he had the opportunity to prepare for a season at c, I’m sure you’d see a huge amount of improvement. His stats are pretty deceiving, he’s played with 2 guys that couldn’t score to save their life. He gets ozone starts, but he’ll never have solid point totals playing with copp and Lowry as they literally can’t finish.


Don't waste your time with this guy, doesn't know what he's talking about, he's ripped on Roslovic on another thread on here, if Lias Andersson went for a 2nd then Roslovic is worth a 2nd, those other pieces here from SJ are essentially worthless so really I see this as a 2nd for Roslovic, he's worth that.
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18 janv. 2021 à 12 h 35
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Don't waste your time with this guy, doesn't know what he's talking about, he's ripped on Roslovic on another thread on here, if Lias Andersson went for a 2nd then Roslovic is worth a 2nd, those other pieces here from SJ are essentially worthless so really I see this as a 2nd for Roslovic, he's worth that.


he's never even reached 30 points.
my god.
full season last year 24 points....yeah sounds like a 4th liner to me.
18 janv. 2021 à 12 h 54
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he's never even reached 30 points.
my god.
full season last year 24 points....yeah sounds like a 4th liner to me.


Yeah cause he wouldn't of gotten a point in the remaining 11 games had they happened.
18 janv. 2021 à 14 h 17
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Yeah cause he wouldn't of gotten a point in the remaining 11 games had they happened.


and because that doesn't really make him a 3rd line player now does it.
18 janv. 2021 à 15 h 33
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and because that doesn't really make him a 3rd line player now does it.


30-40 points is all a good 3rd line player produces actually.
18 janv. 2021 à 15 h 38
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30-40 points is all a good 3rd line player produces actually.


yeah he never hit 30. and even in the one season you think he would have barely.
ZAR had 8 goals and 17 points in 48 games. He's still a 4th liner.
I'm sure you could extend that out to better stats than Jack had. Would you pay that arm and a leg up for ZAR?
No the F you wouldn't. So lets just end the bs.
He's a 4th liner. He hasn't done anything to actually be considered a real 3rd liner.
Which is why WPG isn't paying him!
They want to pay him ZAR money....because he's ZAR value. Let me know when you are willing to pay him the 2.5 to 3 million 3rd line salary per and we can have this conversation. Until then, I think we're done here as even the F team knows better than that wack ****.
18 janv. 2021 à 23 h 42
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yeah he never hit 30. and even in the one season you think he would have barely.
ZAR had 8 goals and 17 points in 48 games. He's still a 4th liner.
I'm sure you could extend that out to better stats than Jack had. Would you pay that arm and a leg up for ZAR?
No the F you wouldn't. So lets just end the bs.
He's a 4th liner. He hasn't done anything to actually be considered a real 3rd liner.
Which is why WPG isn't paying him!
They want to pay him ZAR money....because he's ZAR value. Let me know when you are willing to pay him the 2.5 to 3 million 3rd line salary per and we can have this conversation. Until then, I think we're done here as even the F team knows better than that wack ****.


Arm and a leg? Did you actually look at the three pieces coming from SJ in this proposed trade?
Gambrell and Middleton have literally NO value and are useless to the Jets, the only thing of any value is the 2nd which is a totally reasonable return for Roslovic, just cause you don't like him doesn't make him worthless.
19 janv. 2021 à 5 h 47
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Arm and a leg? Did you actually look at the three pieces coming from SJ in this proposed trade?
Gambrell and Middleton have literally NO value and are useless to the Jets, the only thing of any value is the 2nd which is a totally reasonable return for Roslovic, just cause you don't like him doesn't make him worthless.


we both know that 2nd round pick is most likely high round. It's basically a late 1st.
On top of it there is another 2nd rounder there who is just starting to make his way into the NHL.
Guys scoring 12 goals tops in their career aren't worth that. If they were we wouldn't have so many trades for guys going for 3rds and 4ths.
The guy is literally replacement value at this point. Period. Don't argue otherwise because he hasn't done anything to prove otherwise.
 
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