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Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 17 janv. 2021
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17 janv. 2021 à 14 h 49
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Well this is a fantastic way to fix a lot of problems in Edmonton and cause problems in TO.

A) Holl is better than Larsson (Larsson has been bad for 2 straight years and has never really been good to begin with and costs more than double with less term)

B) Pulli is a bust and Andersen will be fine. Even at worse Andersen as the 1B is much better than whatever you have planned to replace him with.

The hardest of passes by TO.
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17 janv. 2021 à 14 h 53
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Well this is a fantastic way to fix a lot of problems in Edmonton and cause problems in TO.

A) Holl is better than Larsson (Larsson has been bad for 2 straight years and has never really been good to begin with and costs more than double with less term)

B) Pulli is a bust and Andersen will be fine. Even at worse Andersen as the 1B is much better than whatever you have planned to replace him with.

The hardest of passes by TO.


Yikes. You can call Pulju a bust as much as you like but I’d like to see how this season pans out before we head into that territory. How the heck can you believe Holl is better? Larson isn’t great but Holl is slow, lazy and not prone to sacrificing the body. Combine that with the fact he can’t score and that’s a yikes. That being said, Anderson is a really good goalie and Toronto still likely loses this trade, though I don’t see why they don’t at least look at it.
17 janv. 2021 à 14 h 59
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Yikes. You can call Pulju a bust as much as you like but I’d like to see how this season pans out before we head into that territory. How the heck can you believe Holl is better? Larson isn’t great but Holl is slow, lazy and not prone to sacrificing the body. Combine that with the fact he can’t score and that’s a yikes. That being said, Anderson is a really good goalie and Toronto still likely loses this trade, though I don’t see why they don’t at least look at it.


Look I know people don’t like holl and idk if he is better than Larsson. However everything you said about holl is completely not true. Holl is not slow at all, he’s pretty fast for a defenseman and is faster than Larsson. He also blocks shots all the time, idk where you are getting your info from. He leads the team in hits and blocked shots. Adam Larsson had 1 goal and 6 points last year. Holl had 2 goals and 18 points.
17 janv. 2021 à 15 h 4
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Quoting: ConnorMcHellebucyk
Yikes. You can call Pulju a bust as much as you like but I’d like to see how this season pans out before we head into that territory. How the heck can you believe Holl is better? Larson isn’t great but Holl is slow, lazy and not prone to sacrificing the body. Combine that with the fact he can’t score and that’s a yikes. That being said, Anderson is a really good goalie and Toronto still likely loses this trade, though I don’t see why they don’t at least look at it.


Clearly you have never seen Holl play. He is on fact a very good skater for a big man, he is physical and he is excellent along side Muzzin. And really are you going to bring up scoring and claim Larsson is better than anyone? Come on man, Larsson has zero offence, zero. He isn't the best skater, he does hit but he is routinely hemmed into his own zone and hasn't been good really ever in his career. He's a bottom pair defender making over 4 million. Holl was way better last season in his first full NHL season and has so far been arguably the best and definitely most consistent defender for TO this season. Typical nonsense
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17 janv. 2021 à 15 h 12
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Quoting: ConnorMcHellebucyk
Yikes. You can call Pulju a bust as much as you like but I’d like to see how this season pans out before we head into that territory. How the heck can you believe Holl is better? Larson isn’t great but Holl is slow, lazy and not prone to sacrificing the body. Combine that with the fact he can’t score and that’s a yikes. That being said, Anderson is a really good goalie and Toronto still likely loses this trade, though I don’t see why they don’t at least look at it.


Ignore him, he's not a Leafs fan
17 janv. 2021 à 15 h 18
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By far the worst trade for Toronto I've witnessed in a while
17 janv. 2021 à 15 h 18
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Quoting: ConnorMcHellebucyk
Yikes. You can call Pulju a bust as much as you like but I’d like to see how this season pans out before we head into that territory. How the heck can you believe Holl is better? Larson isn’t great but Holl is slow, lazy and not prone to sacrificing the body. Combine that with the fact he can’t score and that’s a yikes. That being said, Anderson is a really good goalie and Toronto still likely loses this trade, though I don’t see why they don’t at least look at it.


Holl is a good skater, especially for his size, he's far from lazy, and blocks/hits a fine amount particularly considering that when he's on the ice the Leafs tend to have the puck. You're entitled to your opinion, but that was just factually incorrect.
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17 janv. 2021 à 15 h 51
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HUGE YESSSSS FROM OILERS!!!!!
17 janv. 2021 à 16 h 41
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Quoting: ConnorMcHellebucyk
Yikes. You can call Pulju a bust as much as you like but I’d like to see how this season pans out before we head into that territory. How the heck can you believe Holl is better? Larson isn’t great but Holl is slow, lazy and not prone to sacrificing the body. Combine that with the fact he can’t score and that’s a yikes. That being said, Anderson is a really good goalie and Toronto still likely loses this trade, though I don’t see why they don’t at least look at it.


Sorry Connor (who I respect with your posts) but that is one of the worse homer comments made. Criticizing Holl for not scoring when he had two goals and 16 assists last season when Larsson had a total of seven POINTS last season. Holl is also a plus player. Thought Oilers fans would appreciate Holl after his great game last season in Edmonton where he played 25 minutes after the Leafs were down to 5 Dmen Holl value on the ice and his great 2m X 3 contract is far superior to the Larsson 4.1m X1 contract.
Actually the trade makes no sense for the Leafs, trading a needed goalie for one year middling Dman.
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17 janv. 2021 à 16 h 50
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Ignore him, he's not a Leafs fan


You should be the last person saying that.....
18 janv. 2021 à 15 h 55
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Ignore him, he's not a Leafs fan


and all leafs fans should be taken seriously??
18 janv. 2021 à 15 h 58
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Clearly you have never seen Holl play. He is on fact a very good skater for a big man, he is physical and he is excellent along side Muzzin. And really are you going to bring up scoring and claim Larsson is better than anyone? Come on man, Larsson has zero offence, zero. He isn't the best skater, he does hit but he is routinely hemmed into his own zone and hasn't been good really ever in his career. He's a bottom pair defender making over 4 million. Holl was way better last season in his first full NHL season and has so far been arguably the best and definitely most consistent defender for TO this season. Typical nonsense


both of us are out of our zones here, what you are saying about Larsson tells me you dont watch him very much. hes far from good but on a defense liable to make boneheaded moves, hes not the worst guy to put out there. I will be the first to say I dont watch the leafs so my opinion on Holl means nothing, however, what I have seen of him Im not a fan of.
18 janv. 2021 à 15 h 59
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Look I know people don’t like holl and idk if he is better than Larsson. However everything you said about holl is completely not true. Holl is not slow at all, he’s pretty fast for a defenseman and is faster than Larsson. He also blocks shots all the time, idk where you are getting your info from. He leads the team in hits and blocked shots. Adam Larsson had 1 goal and 6 points last year. Holl had 2 goals and 18 points.


fair point, I'll watch Holl more. but points do NOT tell the whole story, especially with defensemen
18 janv. 2021 à 16 h 54
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both of us are out of our zones here, what you are saying about Larsson tells me you dont watch him very much. hes far from good but on a defense liable to make boneheaded moves, hes not the worst guy to put out there. I will be the first to say I dont watch the leafs so my opinion on Holl means nothing, however, what I have seen of him Im not a fan of.


I have watched Larsson and he does nothing that impresses me. He hits a lot but doesn't move the puck at all, has zero offence and gets destroyed possession wise. Holl is better and it's not close.
18 janv. 2021 à 16 h 55
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fair point, I'll watch Holl more. but points do NOT tell the whole story, especially with defensemen


They do not and Holl isn't really a point getter, but he does move the puck well and he also defends well. Good skater for a big guy and can skate with the puck well as well. He's very underrated.b
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