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How a PLD should be handled on the MTL side of things

Créé par: ColonelX
Équipe: 2020-21 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 15 janv. 2021
Publié: 15 janv. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Cap doesn't fit in my ACGM but that's Bergy's issue not mine.
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MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc
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Player wants out, his coach threw him under the bus so from now on everything will go south for this situation. Depending on the on ice performance of the team as a whole I feel this situation could evolve very quickly if it becomes a cancer thanks to Torts.
CBJ
    Let's see how a Dubois trade could be created by Montreal.
    Choose one per box.
    Opposite to what's being leaked in the media I see CBJ having no bigger end of the stick in this situation, Montreal has plenty of center depth (No one compares to PLD yet) and is in no rush to make another splash after going all out this offseason. In prior years I wouldn't say so but after committing contracts to bigger skilled guys the size isn't an issue anymore in Montreal.
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    MTL
      Let's start with the main course, the bigger piece of that trade should be an A prospect or the pair of picks.
      CBJ
        - Jesperi Kotkaniemi
        - Cole Caufield
        - 2021 1st, 2021 2nd
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        MTL
          Next you'll want to add a B prospect in it to reach the fairness level of trade value and this is where Montreal's prospect pool is important, you'll be able to send one and won't be thin at any position.
          CBJ
            - Jordan Harris
            - Jesse Ylonen
            - Jan Mysak
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            MTL
              To finish you need a roster player to even out the cap.
              Depending on which set you end up with I'm convinced Montreal will get a late pick back as Bergevin showed us through his tenure, I think we could see anything from a 4th to a 6th round pick coming back.
              CBJ
                - Arturri Lehkonen
                - Jordan Weal
                - Paul Byron
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                15 janv. 2021 à 11 h 1
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                I don't see Montreal giving anything more than this with their current situation (Center depth and cap wise), Dubois would be a nice add but he isn't McDavid either so asking for a Gretzky-like package to get him is off the table.
                The last two categories could be avoided by just pick swapping (Something like a 1st for a 3rd let say) and Montreal would go out and trade assets for cap space or just place on waivers.
                15 janv. 2021 à 11 h 2
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                i would do Kk, Harris, Byron and a 2nd
                15 janv. 2021 à 11 h 3
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                nope - using your rules, you think caufield + ylonen + weal would be fair for dubois + 5th? ok... I think dubois is getting overvalued hard on this site, but this the complete reverse.
                15 janv. 2021 à 11 h 29
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                Quoting: A_Habs_fan
                i would do Kk, Harris, Byron and a 2nd


                Jackets won’t. 🤷🏻‍♂️
                15 janv. 2021 à 11 h 39
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                Here’s the thing Montreal more than any other team has to overpay to get Pierre-Luc Dubois. Not a chance Jarmo kekaleinen Gives Pierre-Luc Dubois what he wants without a major win. Sets a really bad precedent that if you complain loud enough you’ll get what you want.
                15 janv. 2021 à 11 h 47
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                There’s a considerable difference between KK/Caufield and our 1st + 2nd. The habs wouldn’t trade Caufield/KK, and Columbus wouldn’t make a trade where the main piece is a mid to late first. So can we please stop with these ridiculous arguments.
                15 janv. 2021 à 12 h 10
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                Frankly PLD wanting already out of Columbus should be a little bit alarming to MB. The unwritten code is usually that you play with the team that drafted you until minimum 25. Seems almost unfair but thats usually the thing most players adhere to.

                I think either PLD is being a little selfish here or he simply cant stand Torts anymore. Either option should be very concerning to Jarmo.
                15 janv. 2021 à 12 h 11
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                Quoting: villenash
                nope - using your rules, you think caufield + ylonen + weal would be fair for dubois + 5th? ok... I think dubois is getting overvalued hard on this site, but this the complete reverse.

                Categorizing players doesn't mean all the outcomes would make a great trade proposition, it mainly means that if you're asking for two players from the same category the price asked is considered too high by Montreal. On the other side of the spectrum I could say that KK, Harris and Lehkonen for Dubois and a 6th is a steeper price considering Harris development over the last couple of years and Lehkonen defensive abilities. If you cherry pick what you want to see on anything on this site obviously it can be seen as bad.

                Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
                Here’s the thing Montreal more than any other team has to overpay to get Pierre-Luc Dubois. Not a chance Jarmo kekaleinen Gives Pierre-Luc Dubois what he wants without a major win. Sets a really bad precedent that if you complain loud enough you’ll get what you want.

                Montreal needs to overpay for what? Lack of centers, the need to hit the cap floor, explain why do they need to overpay? If your only argument is that he's a francophone that's bs.

                Quoted "Sets a really bad precedent that if you complain loud enough you’ll get what you want." Where did Dubois complained loudly to get what he wants? He had a closed door meeting with his teammates about the fact that he wasn't happy with this team and furthermore would request a trade to Jarmo. Where is the "complain loud enough" part in here? I guess you meant that Torts complained loudly in front of members of the medias about a situation that had nothing to see with his pay grade.

                Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
                There’s a considerable difference between KK/Caufield and our 1st + 2nd. The habs wouldn’t trade Caufield/KK, and Columbus wouldn’t make a trade where the main piece is a mid to late first. So can we please stop with these ridiculous arguments.

                See first argument on top.

                Quoting: F50marco
                Frankly PLD wanting already out of Columbus should be a little bit alarming to MB. The unwritten code is usually that you play with the team that drafted you until minimum 25. Seems almost unfair but thats usually the thing most players adhere to.

                I think either PLD is being a little selfish here or he simply cant stand Torts anymore. Either option should be very concerning to Jarmo.

                I mean they obviously know more things inside but it wouldn't be the first time Torts makes someone unhappy on a team... The only one that followed him and seemed like he could stand his personna was Richards and first thing you know the sh*t hits the fan when they both end up in NY.
                Is it concerning yes but if it's for the right reasons I see no issues of asking for a trade. The relation was -most likely- already broken way before the bench screaming video but that was the last drop he needed to feel the need to get out.
                 
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