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Créé par: jdhbike94
Équipe: 2020-21 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 14 janv. 2021
Publié: 14 janv. 2021
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I agree with everyone that our first game sucked but I don’t want to over think it yet. Let me start with I fully expect us to suck and get a top 5 pick this year which we need so badly. My main argument is where is our size and our strength.
Toews - 6 foot 2 201 pounds
Dach - 6 foot 4 197 pounds
Nylander- 6 foot 2 192 pounds
Smith- 6 foot 2 208 pounds
Saad- 6 foot 1 201 pounds
Caggiula- 81 hits in 40 games never afraid to throw his weight

Our biggest forward is Strome at 6 foot 3 200 pounds
Only other forwards even at 200 pounds or close is Soderberg and Carpenter.

This team not only needs a strong vocal leader in the ice (Seabrook is basically an on ice coach to his team or Toews who you can always hear yelling when we used to be able to go to games)
We also need a big winger and fast wingers. I k or this will be a hugely unpopular opinion but who do we trade in order to get the draft capital or prospects to help fix this?

My thought is that if this season continues like this does Kane or Debrincat ask to leave ????? I like Strome but if we trade for another high end center prospect do we let him go to?


My lines and trade are not realistic it’s just an idea of what I would love to see happen if we decided to blow it up. I know the trades won’t happen don’t comment all day about that these are just some targets I like
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BUF
  1. Kane, Patrick (2 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (CHI)
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Not exactly sure the value and retention here but I would want something built around these two players
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  1. Strome, Dylan
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Still my favorite swap that I hope happens
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  1. DeBrincat, Alex
  2. Murphy, Connor
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Again not sure in value here but I like Connor a lot and I think the other two could fit in really well we could fit in a prospect as well to even out value
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I hate trading Nylander but with other pick ups i
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  1. Söderberg, Carl
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CHI
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14 janv. 2021 à 7 h 33
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Islanders are not giving up their best prospect for depth players
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14 janv. 2021 à 7 h 48
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Islanders are not giving up their best prospect for depth players


You are sleeping on Suter, he had the same ppg as Kubalik in the same league just 1 year later. He definitely has top 6 potential and played 2C last night
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14 janv. 2021 à 7 h 50
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You aren't getting both cozens and reino
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14 janv. 2021 à 7 h 54
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
You are sleeping on Suter, he had the same ppg as Kubalik in the same league just 1 year later. He definitely has top 6 potential and played 2C last night


You'd trade Jakob Pelletier/Connor Zary for that?
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14 janv. 2021 à 8 h 0
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Buffalo decline
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14 janv. 2021 à 8 h 3
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You'd trade Jakob Pelletier/Connor Zary for that?


I said you are sleeping on him by calling him a depth player. He's a rookie after all. IDK if I would trade either of them for Suter but I may come to regret that hesitation by the end of this year if he even does anything like Kubalik
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14 janv. 2021 à 8 h 24
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If we could afford Kane for 2 additional seasons, I would love the Canes to take a run at him.

It would start our cup window sooner.

Im not going to say the value is off in this Canes trade but I would hope the Canes don’t do it. Alex Nylander isnt worth losing someone else in Bean’s place in the expansion draft.
14 janv. 2021 à 8 h 32
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
I said you are sleeping on him by calling him a depth player. He's a rookie after all. IDK if I would trade either of them for Suter but I may come to regret that hesitation by the end of this year if he even does anything like Kubalik


It certainly is interesting. It was his first game in the NHL. He'll certainly get better than his first game. He had ama couple really good shots and his positioning without the puck was good in the offensive zone. I would like to swap Kane to his and Kubs line. Put Shaw with Debrincat and Strome.
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If we could afford Kane for 2 additional seasons, I would love the Canes to take a run at him.

It would start our cup window sooner.

Im not going to say the value is off in this Canes trade but I would hope the Canes don’t do it. Alex Nylander isnt worth losing someone else in Bean’s place in the expansion draft.


I think CAR is in a cup window now. They're a good team. Just need a goalie.
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14 janv. 2021 à 8 h 37
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I think CAR is in a cup window now. They're a good team. Just need a goalie.


Unless Nino scores 40-50 points, we are still iffy on a 2LW. Our window is approaching but we still have a lot of questions to be in the window, IMO. Most of the questions are from the team is so young and others are from lacking a true #1 goalie and second scoring line.

After a decade of mediocrity it is at least nice to know we have a window upcoming.
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14 janv. 2021 à 9 h 11
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Sabres would trade Quinn if theyre getting Kane and it wouldnt be with Reinhart
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14 janv. 2021 à 9 h 20
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
You are sleeping on Suter, he had the same ppg as Kubalik in the same league just 1 year later. He definitely has top 6 potential and played 2C last night


Keep Suter, Isles will keep Wahlstrom.
14 janv. 2021 à 9 h 35
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Keep Suter, Isles will keep Wahlstrom.


Another person misses my point. Wow
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14 janv. 2021 à 9 h 48
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Another person misses my point. Wow


Your point is Suter has top 6 potential which people disagree with and played 2C for 1 game, and played well in a Swiss league. He is also 24, will be 25 this year and a player the Isles do not need.

Wahlstrom is a 20 year old, big winger who has developed well and ready to step into the lineup this year which the Isles need him to do and score goals.

Isles say no.
14 janv. 2021 à 10 h 46
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Kane at 50% retention still doesn’t get cozens
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14 janv. 2021 à 11 h 11
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It certainly is interesting. It was his first game in the NHL. He'll certainly get better than his first game. He had ama couple really good shots and his positioning without the puck was good in the offensive zone. I would like to swap Kane to his and Kubs line. Put Shaw with Debrincat and Strome.


Thank you, have been saying this since the start of camp
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14 janv. 2021 à 12 h 7
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VGK still says no
14 janv. 2021 à 14 h 24
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As a Buff fan id be ok with giving you Reinhart, Mittelstadt, 2 2nds, and Ristolainen OR Quinn, Mittelstadt,1st, 2nd, 4th
14 janv. 2021 à 16 h 24
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Your point is Suter has top 6 potential which people disagree with and played 2C for 1 game, and played well in a Swiss league. He is also 24, will be 25 this year and a player the Isles do not need.

Wahlstrom is a 20 year old, big winger who has developed well and ready to step into the lineup this year which the Isles need him to do and score goals.

Isles say no.


I dont care if the Isles say no, but Suter 100% has yop 6 potential and saying otherwise is ignorant

Cap aside, would you trade Wahlstrom for Kubalik?
 
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