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18 jan à 13 h 33
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Quoting: HabsFan77
i can explain stuff if you want


I think i understand how it works but not every variable, so your algorithm is there are points based off how much they win or lose by and it's multiplied by what ?
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
I think i understand how it works but not every variable, so your algorithm is there are points based off how much they win or lose by and it's multiplied by what ?


by the TR. Say MTL beats EDM 1-0 in regulation today *knock on wood* (This is for the monthly page if you want to follow along) For MTL I would multiply 8 (for winning by 1) * 1.8 (EDM win TR [team rank] ) and add that number to MTL points. For EDM I would multiply 8 (for losing by one) * 1.3 (MTL loss TR) and subtract that number from EDM's score.
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18 jan à 13 h 43
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Quoting: HabsFan77
12 (winning by 3) * 3.1 (points you get if you beat #1 team) = 37.2

and when they lost to COL they didn't loose to many because they lost to the best team


That makes sense, it also makes sense why the list is so crazy this week. Maybe I'd suggest that the preseason rankings have less weight/half the weight maybe. Because preseason rankings mighta had a team low when they got major growth from their players (NJ)
18 jan à 13 h 44
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Quoting: HabsFan77
12 (winning by 3) * 3.1 (points you get if you beat #1 team) = 37.2

and when they lost to COL they didn't loose to many because they lost to the best team


Hey if you post ur ranking on my forum thread
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/409135, you will get lots of reactions
18 jan à 13 h 45
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Quoting: HabsFan77
by the TR. Say MTL beats EDM 1-0 in regulation today *knock on wood* (This is for the monthly page if you want to follow along) For MTL I would multiply 8 (for winning by 1) * 1.8 (EDM win TR [team rank] ) and add that number to MTL points. For EDM I would multiply 8 (for losing by one) * 1.3 (MTL loss TR) and subtract that number from EDM's score.


okay i get it so you want to win big against good teams to get max points
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
That makes sense, it also makes sense why the list is so crazy this week. Maybe I'd suggest that the preseason rankings have less weight/half the weight maybe. Because preseason rankings mighta had a team low when they got major growth from their players (NJ)


Maybe. Its too late to change now, but I am looking forward to the monthly rankings next week
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
Hey if you post ur ranking on my forum thread
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/409135, you will get lots of reactions


you can link it if you want, I don't mind
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18 jan à 13 h 52
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Maybe. Its too late to change now, but I am looking forward to the monthly rankings next week


Me2!
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18 jan à 16 h 06
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I did the rankings for the CBJ DET game if you want to look at the sheet now. @BuFfaLOFaN (gosh that tag was hard to type)
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Quoting: HabsFan77
I did the rankings for the CBJ DET game if you want to look at the sheet now. @BuFfaLOFaN (gosh that tag was hard to type)


How did you get those points? Detroit lost almost nothing but cbj went up 15
18 jan à 17 h 48
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
How did you get those points? Detroit lost almost nothing but cbj went up 15


It's the other way around
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Quoting: HabsFan77
It's the other way around


tears of joy yea...that, I typed part of this out then went into the dentist for 1.5 hrs and typed the rest out after lol
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
tears of joy yea...that, I typed part of this out then went into the dentist for 1.5 hrs and typed the rest out after lol


lol does it make sense now?
18 jan à 22 h 44
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Quoting: HabsFan77
lol does it make sense now?


Not really, is it because colombus is considered bad as well as Detroit?
18 jan à 23 h 03
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Not really, is it because colombus is considered bad as well as Detroit?


well DET lost to team that is about rank 20, so a bad team, and CBJ beat a bad team so they didn't get many points
25 jan à 11 h 41
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Here are the Power Rankings after Week #2

Monthly
Best team over the last month:
Dallas Stars

1. DAL
2. NJD
3. MTL
4. NYI
5. ANA
6. LA
7. BUF
8. COL
9. PIT
10. TOR
11. STL
12. CGY
13. WPG
14. BOS
15. EDM
16. VGK
17. FLA
18. WSH
19. ARI
20. NYR
21. CAR
22. NSH
23. OTT
24. CHI
25. MIN
26. PHI
27. VAN
28. TB
29. SJS
30. CBJ
31. DET

Weekly
Best team over the last week:
Dallas Stars

1. DAL
2. LA
3. NYI
4. BUF
5. ANA
6. PIT
7. BOS
8. TOR
9. NJD
10. MTL
11. CHI
12. EDM
13. CAR
14. WPG
15. CGY
16. ARI
17. FLA
18. WSH
19. CBJ
20. VGK
21. SJS
22. COL
23. STL
24. VAN
25. OTT
26. NYR
27. TB
28. MIN
29. NSH
30. PHI
31. DET
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25 jan à 11 h 42
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Wow Montreal is third, Dallas is first because they’ve played 2 games and crushed Nashville 7-0 right ? Also Tampa at 28 I mean sure they beat Chicago who is bad so not many points and they lost to Columbus but that cost them that much, wow
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buffalo is 2-3-1 in 6 games, -1 point differential but you have them at 7th in monthly and 4th in weekly? in converse NYI are 3-2 and a +1 in point differential you have them at 4th and 3rd. And then you have a team like the bruins who are 3-1-1 +5 in point differential at 14 and 7... Philly is one of the best teams in the league. Tampa at 28th and 27th but are 3-1 with a +5 point differential. Like what? how is a sub 500 team better than any that are above 500 in your standings?
25 jan à 12 h 44
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buffalo is 2-3-1 in 6 games, -1 point differential but you have them at 7th in monthly and 4th in weekly? in converse NYI are 3-2 and a +1 in point differential you have them at 4th and 3rd. And then you have a team like the bruins who are 3-1-1 +5 in point differential at 14 and 7... Philly is one of the best teams in the league. Tampa at 28th and 27th but are 3-1 with a +5 point differential. Like what? how is a sub 500 team better than any that are above 500 in your standings?


it depends who they play and by how much they win. Tampa beat CHI twice who is bad, then lost to CBJ who was bad when they played them and they lost to CBJ who was bad so they lost points. TB hasn't been tested yet and when they were against CBJ they went 1-1
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Wow Montreal is third, Dallas is first because they’ve played 2 games and crushed Nashville 7-0 right ? Also Tampa at 28 I mean sure they beat Chicago who is bad so not many points and they lost to Columbus but that cost them that much, wow


yes, yes you got it
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25 jan à 12 h 58
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it depends who they play and by how much they win. Tampa beat CHI twice who is bad, then lost to CBJ who was bad when they played them and they lost to CBJ who was bad so they lost points. TB hasn't been tested yet and when they were against CBJ they went 1-1


so then how is a washington at 18 but buffalo higher. 4 of the 6 games both teams have player were vs each other. washington is 3-0-3 all 3 wins against buffalo. sabres split with the flyers. and have 1 win vs the caps. yet you have buffalo higher than any of the following in the list? so is buffalo good, is washington good, is pitt good, is philly good? As devils advocate, pittsburgh beat the rangers who are bad, and the caps who youre saying are also bad. yet pitt is up near the top of the list.
25 jan à 13 h 11
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Quoting: hanson493
buffalo is 2-3-1 in 6 games, -1 point differential but you have them at 7th in monthly and 4th in weekly? in converse NYI are 3-2 and a +1 in point differential you have them at 4th and 3rd. And then you have a team like the bruins who are 3-1-1 +5 in point differential at 14 and 7... Philly is one of the best teams in the league. Tampa at 28th and 27th but are 3-1 with a +5 point differential. Like what? how is a sub 500 team better than any that are above 500 in your standings?


They got huuuge points for that Philly game, and Washington win. Tampa get not lots of points for beating bad teams but they lost to a bad team and lost lots of points (reason for being down by alot). Sabres could drop lots if they lose to the rangers.

He's testing a points system and that's reason for the rankings, nothing bout his preference.
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25 jan à 13 h 15
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Quoting: HabsFan77
yes, yes you got it


Suggestion for next year. Let a week play out or 2 then take a poll on rankings and go with that. Cause your preseason rankings had some teams 2 high or 2 low and that could create a difficiency in how this looks right off the bat.
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Wow Montreal is third, Dallas is first because they’ve played 2 games and crushed Nashville 7-0 right ? Also Tampa at 28 I mean sure they beat Chicago who is bad so not many points and they lost to Columbus but that cost them that much, wow


Montreal deserves to be high. IMHO they have looked to be the best team in the north except for one glaring weakness taking penalties
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25 jan à 13 h 22
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so then how is a washington at 18 but buffalo higher. 4 of the 6 games both teams have player were vs each other. washington is 3-0-3 all 3 wins against buffalo. sabres split with the flyers. and have 1 win vs the caps. yet you have buffalo higher than any of the following in the list? so is buffalo good, is washington good, is pitt good, is philly good? As devils advocate, pittsburgh beat the rangers who are bad, and the caps who youre saying are also bad. yet pitt is up near the top of the list.


First off, this is based off of math, and my opinion is not counted at all. Washington is at 18 because they beat Buf twice early season and Buffalo was not ranked high at the time and if you beat a bad team you don't get many points because it wasn't a real test. Then they went 1-0-3 and their win was in a SO so they didn't get many points for that. And when they lost in extra time they lost more points than they got when they won because at the time PIT was middle of the pack and same with buf. BUF is good because they beat PHI 6-1 who at the time was a good team. BUF is also ranked high because they had a good week as you can tell by the weekly rankings and that helped their overall ranking. PIT is rank 9 and you don't have to look very far to see that they are 4-2-0, and have been playing well and getting better as the season goes on. If you are bad you are rank 24ish and below, 18 is not bad especially in the division they play in.
 
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