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Updated Carolina Trade

Créé par: Jetman
Équipe: 2020-21 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 11 janv. 2021
Publié: 11 janv. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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UFAANSCAP HIT
1700 000 $
Transactions
CAR
  1. Perreault, Mathieu
  2. Roslovic, Jack [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (WPG)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $79 576 191 $0 $0 $1 923 809 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
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6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 4
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7 142 857 $7 142 857 $
AG
UFA - 6
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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4 995 000 $4 995 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
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2 916 667 $2 916 667 $
C
UFA - 1
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900 000 $900 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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2 280 000 $2 280 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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3 375 000 $3 375 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
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725 000 $725 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 8
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
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UFA - 4
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6 166 667 $6 166 667 $
G
UFA - 4
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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700 000 $700 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
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5 291 667 $5 291 667 $
C, AD
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UFA - 4
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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725 000 $725 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Équipe de réserve
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700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C, AG
UFA - 1
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741 667 $741 667 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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800 000 $800 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG
UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
G
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11 janv. 2021 à 14 h 41
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I really like this trade for the Jets! I dont think Carolina makes that deal though.
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11 janv. 2021 à 14 h 44
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For me, there is no incentive there for the Jets to bail Carolina out of Skjei's contact. 4 more years of a Kulikov level contract is a lot of wasted cap space.
11 janv. 2021 à 14 h 50
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For me, there is no incentive there for the Jets to bail Carolina out of Skjei's contact. 4 more years of a Kulikov level contract is a lot of wasted cap space.


Kulikov got like 10 points per season...not 30. Skjei is also a big man...we can send him to Seattle next year if we want to leave him unprotected as he will be the best Dman available
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11 janv. 2021 à 14 h 51
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I like the idea of Rosy to Carolina for one of their D. They just acquired Skjei so I’m not sure he could be had. Gardiner or Bean could be seen as more expendable maybe
11 janv. 2021 à 14 h 53
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I like the idea of Rosy to Carolina for one of their D. They just acquired Skjei so I’m not sure he could be had. Gardiner or Bean could be seen as more expendable maybe


Check out some of their comments....Bean is supposedly playing very well in camp and Skjei is expendable...They need his money for Hamilton anyways
11 janv. 2021 à 14 h 59
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Quoting: Jetman
Check out some of their comments....Bean is supposedly playing very well in camp and Skjei is expendable...They need his money for Hamilton anyways


Oh I totally get why fans would like to see him go. But if Waddell didn’t want him he wouldn’t have traded a 1st for him, then dump him after what, 15 total games played for them? Just doesn’t add up for me
11 janv. 2021 à 15 h 0
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Oh I totally get why fans would like to see him go. But if Waddell didn’t want him he wouldn’t have traded a 1st for him, then dump him after what, 15 total games played for them? Just doesn’t add up for me


Its cuz their defence was injured and they wanted/needed players....So both Skjei and Vatanen came
11 janv. 2021 à 15 h 1
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Kulikov got like 10 points per season...not 30. Skjei is also a big man...we can send him to Seattle next year if we want to leave him unprotected as he will be the best Dman available


Kulikov also didn't cost 5.25 mil. If Skjei only had one year left, I could see it, but after next year Skjei just gets in the way of Samberg and Heinola and is wasted cap space for a poor defensively, low, low end second pair D. Even if Seattle does take him, throwing away Roslovic for a guy that is a marginal upgrade for one year is a waste of assets. But I'm not going to argue with you if it makes you happy.
11 janv. 2021 à 15 h 2
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Kulikov also didn't cost 5.25 mil. If Skjei only had one year left, I could see it, but after next year Skjei just gets in the way of Samberg and Heinola and is wasted cap space for a poor defensively, low, low and second pair D. Even if Seattle does take him, throwing away Roslovic for a guy that is a marginal upgrade for one year is a waste of assets. But I'm not going to argue with you if it makes you happy.


We will lose Roslovic to Seattle anyways....So its a 2nd for Skjei...and we upgrade our defence
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11 janv. 2021 à 15 h 4
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We will lose Roslovic to Seattle anyways....So its a 2nd for Skjei...and we upgrade our defence


That's a pretty high price for a marginal, expensive, one year upgrade.
11 janv. 2021 à 15 h 5
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That's a pretty high price for a marginal, expensive, one year upgrade.


we paid a 1st and Lemieux for 2 months of a 2C...so 6 months of a Dman for a 2nd isnt that much
11 janv. 2021 à 15 h 10
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we paid a 1st and Lemieux for 2 months of a 2C...so 6 months of a Dman for a 2nd isnt that much


That was a different situation for a much, much better player when the Jets were trying to make a playoff push. Again though, if it makes you happy, it's all good.
11 janv. 2021 à 15 h 17
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Carolina are getting away nicely here. I think this does work for both sides. Carolina free up a D place for Bean, Winnipeg vastly improve on defense, and it works pretty well all around. Perrault is up after the year too. It works nicely.
11 janv. 2021 à 15 h 48
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I'd consider a Roslo for Skjei deal but no way I'm adding a pick, don't see the point either with all the LHD prospects the Jets have, would never acquire Skjei just to expose him to Seattle either.
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11 janv. 2021 à 16 h 2
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I'd consider a Roslo for Skjei deal but no way I'm adding a pick, don't see the point either with all the LHD prospects the Jets have, would never acquire Skjei just to expose him to Seattle either.


View it as a rental...I would think that we could trade him next year if needed...He for sure is better than Forbert
11 janv. 2021 à 16 h 24
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Check out some of their comments....Bean is supposedly playing very well in camp and Skjei is expendable...They need his money for Hamilton anyways


That's why it's a no for me from the jets. The canes need to make the space to sign Hamilton and the jets giving up a 2nd and Roslovic just to get out from Matty P's contract and adding a depth F and an overpaid D doesnt make sense
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11 janv. 2021 à 16 h 25
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That's why it's a no for me from the jets. The canes need to make the space to sign Hamilton and the jets giving up a 2nd and Roslovic just to get out from Matty P's contract and adding a depth F and an overpaid D doesnt make sense


a good defender that scores 30 points a year at 5M is not overpaid
11 janv. 2021 à 16 h 31
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a good defender that scores 30 points a year at 5M is not overpaid


scored 30 points 4 seasons ago and I do think he's overpaid in a flat cap world and the jets would be committing to 4 years. The jets need to create space for their young guys not clog it up for years
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11 janv. 2021 à 19 h 21
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I don’t really get why some Canes fans want to dump Skjei so badly. He was one of their best D in the bubble, and the CAR front office paid a hefty price to acquire him. I for one, want to see what a Skjei-Pesce pairing can accomplish. It’s obvious that was the long term plan in his acquisition.

Slavin-Hamilton
Skjei-Pesce

is a darn good top 4. Losing Skjei makes retaining Hamilton a little easier, but then you’re right back in the same spot as last season, with them looking for a competent LD to play alongside Pesce. Fleury might end up that guy, but maybe not. Bean may end up that guy too, but I have my doubts. I’d rather they hold onto all their D (unless some **** GM wants Gardiner) as expansion draft insurance. If they end up having to expose Skjei, Gardiner, Fleury and Bean, they’ll likely lose one of those D. However, they’d still be left with 3 of those 4. Easiest to just lose a player and move on.

Now, yes, Skjei makes a lot and having 5 D making more than $4M is a problem, but I don’t see the Canes dumping Skjei for what would amount to a waste of roster space in Roslovic. I like
Roslovic, but where would he play? He’d be in the same sort of situation as he’s currently in with the the Jets. He wouldn’t slot in front of anyone in the CAR top 6, and I doubt he’d fit on the 3rd line either in front of Foegele or Fast.

I wouldn’t deal Bean or Fleury for Roslovic, and there’s no way the Jets would take Gardiner for him. Dzingel for Roslovic, sure, but again; why do the Jets do that?
 
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