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Expansion draft

Créé par: Zmach
Équipe: 2021-22 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 11 janv. 2021
Publié: 11 janv. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
33 200 000 $
33 750 000 $
21 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 500 000 $
21 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
21 000 000 $
35 000 000 $
112 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
EDM
    Seattle
    2.
    EDM
    1. Korpisalo, Joonas
    2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CBJ)
    3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
    CBJ
    1. Benson, Tyler [Droits de RFA]
    2. Lennström, Theodor [Droits de RFA]
    3. Nurse, Darnell
    Détails additionnels:
    Jarmo the european whisperer will know what lennstrom is.
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    2022
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    2023
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2381 500 000 $76 199 672 $669 339 $850 000 $5 300 328 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    12 000 000 $12 000 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 8
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    12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
    C
    UFA - 5
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    1 175 000 $1 175 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
    AG, AD, C
    UFA
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    750 000 $750 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    AG
    UFA
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    C
    UFA
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    850 000 $850 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    825 000 $825 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    DD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
    2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1

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    11 janv. 2021 à 13 h 43
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    Quoting: Bringer_Of_Snow
    Did you just project 3 different contracts for Nuge? When has that happened in the history of the league? Nuge will in all likelihood sign one long term deal in the $7M range. This projection is extremely, unnecessarily specific haha


    That's what the AAV is yes.
    11 janv. 2021 à 13 h 45
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    The rule for exemption is under 27 games in one year or 54 games in two year time span. He played 62 last year, meaning he's no exempt from getting picked.

    EDM has to pick which one they want to keep, Jones, Kahun or Turris. Naturally they can also try to convince Seattle to take someone else and compensate it with other assets, such as prospects...but I can't see any reality where EDM leaves Klefbom on the table, no matter the injury history. The only way it happens is if Klefbom truly is permanently out or there's a major setback in his recovery process. Which seems unlikely. And if that's the case, naturally SEA won't be picking the guy.

    I don't really get why EDM would move Klefbom's contract in the first place. Best case scenario, you get your best D back, worst case scenario, he ends up in LTIR for good and won't affect your cap.


    This is 100% spot on. Klefbom is criminally underrated, when hes playing healthy. His contract is great too, again when he's healthy. Theres no doubt that his injuries would hinder his value, but thats all the more reason for the Oilers to hold onto him. As you said, worst case scenario he rides it out on the LTIR.

    The only reason in the world that he would be exposed in the draft would be if he directly told Holland that he will never play in the NHL again. In that case, moving out his contract is all good.

    I highly doubt the Oilers protect Turris. Yes we've been looking for a 3c for a while now. And Turris seems like a great fit. But we have yet to see him play. He was out of favour in NSH, but that was in large part due to his contract. Now that he is on a reasonable deal, we can judge if he's worth it. Not to mention he has 1 year left and he'll be 32. If Seattle really wants a 32 year old soon to be UFA, thats not a crazy loss for the Oilers. By this time next year, you gotta hope that maybe McLeod will be on the team in that role. Worse case here, you get another free agent next season.

    Jones is by far the most valuable to the Oilers of those 3. Kahun could join the conversation if he plays well, but for now, its unknown.

    *Also this is a side note, but here is one of the rules in the seattle expansion draft.
    "Players who missed the final 60 games of the ’20-21 season or who have otherwise been confirmed to have a career-threatening injury cannot be exposed in the draft without league approval"
    Im not sure how to interpret this in reference to Klefboms situation. Would he be exempt from the draft, meaning the Oilers don't need to protect him? Or would it mean that the Oilers must protect him?
    11 janv. 2021 à 13 h 57
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    Quoting: Bringer_Of_Snow
    This is 100% spot on. Klefbom is criminally underrated, when hes playing healthy. His contract is great too, again when he's healthy. Theres no doubt that his injuries would hinder his value, but thats all the more reason for the Oilers to hold onto him. As you said, worst case scenario he rides it out on the LTIR.

    The only reason in the world that he would be exposed in the draft would be if he directly told Holland that he will never play in the NHL again. In that case, moving out his contract is all good.

    I highly doubt the Oilers protect Turris. Yes we've been looking for a 3c for a while now. And Turris seems like a great fit. But we have yet to see him play. He was out of favour in NSH, but that was in large part due to his contract. Now that he is on a reasonable deal, we can judge if he's worth it. Not to mention he has 1 year left and he'll be 32. If Seattle really wants a 32 year old soon to be UFA, thats not a crazy loss for the Oilers. By this time next year, you gotta hope that maybe McLeod will be on the team in that role. Worse case here, you get another free agent next season.

    Jones is by far the most valuable to the Oilers of those 3. Kahun could join the conversation if he plays well, but for now, its unknown.

    *Also this is a side note, but here is one of the rules in the seattle expansion draft.
    "Players who missed the final 60 games of the ’20-21 season or who have otherwise been confirmed to have a career-threatening injury cannot be exposed in the draft without league approval"
    Im not sure how to interpret this in reference to Klefboms situation. Would he be exempt from the draft, meaning the Oilers don't need to protect him? Or would it mean that the Oilers must protect him?


    I guess we will see. It'll become clear nearer the ED.
    11 janv. 2021 à 13 h 59
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    Quoting: Bringer_Of_Snow
    This is 100% spot on. Klefbom is criminally underrated, when hes playing healthy. His contract is great too, again when he's healthy. Theres no doubt that his injuries would hinder his value, but thats all the more reason for the Oilers to hold onto him. As you said, worst case scenario he rides it out on the LTIR.

    The only reason in the world that he would be exposed in the draft would be if he directly told Holland that he will never play in the NHL again. In that case, moving out his contract is all good.

    I highly doubt the Oilers protect Turris. Yes we've been looking for a 3c for a while now. And Turris seems like a great fit. But we have yet to see him play. He was out of favour in NSH, but that was in large part due to his contract. Now that he is on a reasonable deal, we can judge if he's worth it. Not to mention he has 1 year left and he'll be 32. If Seattle really wants a 32 year old soon to be UFA, thats not a crazy loss for the Oilers. By this time next year, you gotta hope that maybe McLeod will be on the team in that role. Worse case here, you get another free agent next season.

    Jones is by far the most valuable to the Oilers of those 3. Kahun could join the conversation if he plays well, but for now, its unknown.

    *Also this is a side note, but here is one of the rules in the seattle expansion draft.
    "Players who missed the final 60 games of the ’20-21 season or who have otherwise been confirmed to have a career-threatening injury cannot be exposed in the draft without league approval"
    Im not sure how to interpret this in reference to Klefboms situation. Would he be exempt from the draft, meaning the Oilers don't need to protect him? Or would it mean that the Oilers must protect him?


    My key point is when was the last time klefbom has truly been healthy? My thoughts are that klefbom's shoulder has deteriorated so much and the Oilers have known it for some time. This isn't something that can be solved with surgery its arthritis and the fact that the oilers haven't been in the playoffs is probably the only thing that saved klefbom all these years. If you operate on a shoulder then you always have the potential for arthritis and it could get worse. From what holland has said Klefbom needs to rest his shoulder all summer then he comes in and half way through the season, it flares up again, he needs about 10 games, then he can finish the season under a lot of pain. A deep playoff run and he can't do it and you saw him play terrible to the point where he couldn't clear the zone against Chicago.
    11 janv. 2021 à 14 h 5
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    The rule for exemption is under 27 games in one year or 54 games in two year time span. He played 62 last year, meaning he's no exempt from getting picked.

    EDM has to pick which one they want to keep, Jones, Kahun or Turris. Naturally they can also try to convince Seattle to take someone else and compensate it with other assets, such as prospects...but I can't see any reality where EDM leaves Klefbom on the table, no matter the injury history. The only way it happens is if Klefbom truly is permanently out or there's a major setback in his recovery process. Which seems unlikely. And if that's the case, naturally SEA won't be picking the guy.

    I don't really get why EDM would move Klefbom's contract in the first place. Best case scenario, you get your best D back, worst case scenario, he ends up in LTIR for good and won't affect your cap.


    So the rule for exemption is either 27 games this season "OR" 54 over the last two. So it's either one or the other, not both. There is no "and" there, it's an "or" right? Meaning that either one or the other of those options needs to happen for Klef to be exempt. Not both. So if he doesn't play 27 games this year because of injury while on LTIR. He should be exempt. Unfortunately, from the sounds of it, it is career threatening.
    11 janv. 2021 à 14 h 15
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    Quoting: Zmach
    I've run through a lot of scenarios and they are always about 5 million short for signing those 2 when you put the fringes on bridge deals and the young defencemen on team friendly long term deals. If the cap were to go up to 86 million by then there wouldn't be an issue but we have to assume it will be flat then.


    Sure... In 5 years if the cap doesn't move up there will be a correction in contracts. The current CBA understanding ensures the cap will increase. There is so much unknown from an NHL stand point that arguing is pointless. Your projections would have too many variables to accurately predict a teams salary situation 5 years from now let alone 2.
    11 janv. 2021 à 14 h 23
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    Quoting: DONTGIVEAPUCK13
    Sure... In 5 years if the cap doesn't move up there will be a correction in contracts. The current CBA understanding ensures the cap will increase. There is so much unknown from an NHL stand point that arguing is pointless. Your projections would have too many variables to accurately predict a teams salary situation 5 years from now let alone 2.


    i'm not going to argue nudge's contract AAV on his next contract we are agreeing on that. I do factor in getting nudge's AAV to drop significantly in 5 years though and its a fair assumption that you need the cap.
    11 janv. 2021 à 14 h 42
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    i'm not going to argue nudge's contract AAV on his next contract we are agreeing on that. I do factor in getting nudge's AAV to drop significantly in 5 years though and its a fair assumption that you need the cap.


    Fact is he will sign a contract for more than 5 years so his AAV will remain constant. There is too much concern over injure to sign a short term contract
    11 janv. 2021 à 15 h 31
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    So the rule for exemption is either 27 games this season "OR" 54 over the last two. So it's either one or the other, not both. There is no "and" there, it's an "or" right? Meaning that either one or the other of those options needs to happen for Klef to be exempt. Not both. So if he doesn't play 27 games this year because of injury while on LTIR. He should be exempt. Unfortunately, from the sounds of it, it is career threatening.


    I think it's wrong to think it as a question between "and" or "or", per se...

    Think of Puljujärvi for example. As he wasn't contracted in the NHL last year, he couldn't accrue any games to that total on two year time span, but the case with Klefbom is a bit different.

    Pulju will not be exempt from the ED if he accrues 27 games this year as it is his only contract year during these two ones. Klefbom has been under contract for both of these seasons, so should he total 54 games combined these two years, he won't be exempt. Which he has done as he played 62 games last year, no?
    11 janv. 2021 à 15 h 49
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    To be elligible for exemption: Doesn't make exposure parameters (played in less than 70 NHL games in the last two seasons) and missed 60 consecutive games in the previous season.

    klefbom's 62 games last year prorates to about 71.6 Games. klefbom's whole season gone prorates to 82 games missed. He doesn't meet exemption by a C hair on games played.
    11 janv. 2021 à 16 h 2
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    Quoting: Bringer_Of_Snow
    This is 100% spot on. Klefbom is criminally underrated, when hes playing healthy. His contract is great too, again when he's healthy. Theres no doubt that his injuries would hinder his value, but thats all the more reason for the Oilers to hold onto him. As you said, worst case scenario he rides it out on the LTIR.

    The only reason in the world that he would be exposed in the draft would be if he directly told Holland that he will never play in the NHL again. In that case, moving out his contract is all good.

    I highly doubt the Oilers protect Turris. Yes we've been looking for a 3c for a while now. And Turris seems like a great fit. But we have yet to see him play. He was out of favour in NSH, but that was in large part due to his contract. Now that he is on a reasonable deal, we can judge if he's worth it. Not to mention he has 1 year left and he'll be 32. If Seattle really wants a 32 year old soon to be UFA, thats not a crazy loss for the Oilers. By this time next year, you gotta hope that maybe McLeod will be on the team in that role. Worse case here, you get another free agent next season.

    Jones is by far the most valuable to the Oilers of those 3. Kahun could join the conversation if he plays well, but for now, its unknown.

    *Also this is a side note, but here is one of the rules in the seattle expansion draft.
    "Players who missed the final 60 games of the ’20-21 season or who have otherwise been confirmed to have a career-threatening injury cannot be exposed in the draft without league approval"
    Im not sure how to interpret this in reference to Klefboms situation. Would he be exempt from the draft, meaning the Oilers don't need to protect him? Or would it mean that the Oilers must protect him?


    McLeod may be on the team now. In practice today he lined up between Ennis and Chiasson - the 4th line center. Khaira got waived. Haas is injured. Shore doesn't have a contract (yet). This may be a thing for opening night.
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