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Créé par: jfrojelin
Date de création initiale: 9 janv. 2021
Publié: 9 janv. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Sharks de San Jose
Description
thoughts?
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Donato, Ryan22 500 000 $
True, Alex2900 000 $
Gregor, Noah21 500 000 $
Mete, Victor11 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Goodrow, Barclay12 000 000 $
Dzingel, Ryan23 700 000 $
Palmieri, Kyle25 900 000 $
Grubauer, Philipp23 400 000 $
Transactions
1.
SJS
  1. Choix de 2021 ronde en 4e (CAR)
  2. Choix de 2022 ronde en 5e (CAR)
CAR
  1. Kane, Evander
Détails additionnels:
above average 5v5 guy, who knows if he'd waive his clause, or if this is the team that would do this
2.
SJS
    seattle
    CAR
    1. Burns, Brent
    2. Choix de 2021 ronde en 4e (CAR)
    3. Choix de 2022 ronde en 3e (SJS)
    3.
    SJS
    1. Mete, Victor [Droits de RFA]
    MTL
    1. Simek, Radim
    2. Choix de 2022 ronde en 4e (SJS)
    Détails additionnels:
    gross term get simek out
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Brent Burns: 2 720 000 $ (34%)
    • Andrew Cogliano: 500 000 $ (50%)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGE1E RONDE2E RONDE3E RONDE4E RONDE5E RONDE6E RONDE7E RONDE
    2021
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    2022
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    2023
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2081 500 000 $73 686 666 $0 $1 707 500 $7 813 334 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    Meier, Timo
    6 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2
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    Couture, Logan
    8 000 000 $
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 6
    Palmieri, Kyle
    5 900 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 4
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    Leonard, John
    925 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
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    Hertl, Tomas
    5 625 000 $
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
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    Labanc, Kevin
    4 725 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 3
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    Donato, Ryan
    2 500 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 1
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    Gregor, Noah
    1 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    Dzingel, Ryan
    3 700 000 $
    AG, AD, C
    UFA - 1
    Goodrow, Barclay
    2 000 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 6
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    Chmelevski, Alexander
    778 333 $
    C
    RFA - 1
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    True, Alex
    900 000 $
    C, AD
    RFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    Ferraro, Mario
    925 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
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    Karlsson, Erik
    11 500 000 $
    DD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Grubauer, Philipp
    3 400 000 $
    G
    UFA - 6
    Mete, Victor
    1 500 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 1
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    Merkley, Ryan
    863 333 $
    DD
    RFA - 2
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    Melnichuk, Alexei
    925 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
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    Vlasic, Marc-Édouard
    7 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
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    Pasichnuk, Brinson
    925 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    Équipe de réserve
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    Middleton, Jacob
    725 000 $ (0 $)
    DG
    UFA - 1
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    Kellman, Joel
    750 000 $ (0 $)
    C
    UFA - 1
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    Jones, Martin
    2 000 000 $ (875 000 $)
    G
    UFA - 1

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    9 janv. 2021 à 22 h 36
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    Cost substantially more than that to dump that albatross of a contract that’s Burns 1&4 minimum
    Montreal isn’t going to give you Mete to take a salary dump mid level prospect and a 2 or 3 minimum
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    9 janv. 2021 à 22 h 48
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    I would honestly be very surprised if donato is in the NHL next year. I’ll be even more surprised if Seattle picks up burns.
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    9 janv. 2021 à 22 h 50
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    If you put gross term get(insert player name here) out you’re not getting a top d-prospect for the dump and a 4th
    9 janv. 2021 à 22 h 50
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    Cost substantially more than that to dump that albatross of a contract that’s Burns 1&4 minimum
    Montreal isn’t going to give you Mete to take a salary dump mid level prospect and a 2 or 3 minimum


    Montreal isn't taking on the Salary because we don't have the space. Unless we are giving you a bad contract bad (although we don't really have one)
    9 janv. 2021 à 22 h 52
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    Montreal isn't taking on the Salary because we don't have the space. Unless we are giving you a bad contract bad (although we don't really have one)

    I didn’t think so but even if they were they wouldn’t do so for the type of deal he was offering was the point I was making that wasn’t even a realistic deal if they had the salary cap space
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    9 janv. 2021 à 23 h 0
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    Montreal isn't taking on the Salary because we don't have the space. Unless we are giving you a bad contract bad (although we don't really have one)


    Josh Anderson... Paul Byron... Shea Weber... Carey Price...
    9 janv. 2021 à 23 h 6
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    Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
    Josh Anderson... Paul Byron... Shea Weber... Carey Price...


    None of which are bad contracts... We can argue Price because he's a goalie, but if he's hot he will win games by himself.
    9 janv. 2021 à 23 h 7
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    None of which are bad contracts... We can argue Price because he's a goalie, but if he's hot he will win games by himself.

    Any contract paying Jonathan Drouin sorry I can’t stand him
    9 janv. 2021 à 23 h 8
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    Any contract paying Jonathan Drouin sorry I can’t stand him


    That doesn't make him a bad contract. There are many players that I hate, but that doesn't mean they don't do their job
    9 janv. 2021 à 23 h 10
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    That doesn't make him a bad contract. There are many players that I hate, but that doesn't mean they don't do their job


    Serious question Montréal’s up by a goal five minutes left. How many minutes does Jonathan Drouin get?Don’t count a possible Montreal power-play does he get 30 seconds. Maybe if Montreal has an offense of zone face-off maybe
    9 janv. 2021 à 23 h 11
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    Serious question Montréal’s up by a goal five minutes left. How many minutes does Jonathan Drouin get?Don’t count a possible Montreal power-play does he get 30 seconds


    Julien rolls the first 3 lines, So I would say about 1:30 Drouin would get 5v5.
    9 janv. 2021 à 23 h 12
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    Julien rolls the first 3 lines, So I would say about 1:30 Drouin would get 5v5.

    I think you’re being generous
    9 janv. 2021 à 23 h 13
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    I think you’re being generous


    I'm not whatsoever. If anything, I'm being conservative.
    9 janv. 2021 à 23 h 14
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    I think you’re being generous


    I'm thinking Julien's first choice is the Tatar-Danault-Gallagher line and then 2nd it's the Drouin line. This year is might even be his first choice as I believe Drouin-Suzuki-Anderson is a real game changer line.
    9 janv. 2021 à 23 h 14
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    I'm not whatsoever. If anything, I'm being conservative.


    I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with you
    9 janv. 2021 à 23 h 15
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    I'm thinking Julien's first choice is the Tatar-Danault-Gallagher line and then 2nd it's the Drouin line. This year is might even be his first choice as I believe Drouin-Suzuki-Anderson is a real game changer line.

    You are really trusting Drouin late in the game with a slim lead Bad call
    9 janv. 2021 à 23 h 16
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with you


    If we were talking about Defending a lead then I agree with you, but Drouin is one of our best offense creating wingers. What line would you think is going to be out there for the last 5 minutes?
    9 janv. 2021 à 23 h 16
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    You are really trusting Drouin late in the game with a slim lead Bad call


    It's not like he's the center. He's there to create offense and he does it quite well.
    9 janv. 2021 à 23 h 16
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    If we were talking about Defending a lead then I agree with you, but Drouin is one of our best offense creating wingers. What line would you think is going to be out there for the last 5 minutes?

    That’s what I said you were up by a goal five minutes left
    9 janv. 2021 à 23 h 17
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    That’s what I said you were up by a goal five minutes left


    I must've read it wrong. Drouin isn't very good defensively so obviously he wouldn't be the top choice, but that's not what he is here for.
    9 janv. 2021 à 23 h 19
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    I must've read it wrong. Drouin isn't very good defensively so obviously he wouldn't be the top choice, but that's not what he is here for.

    I understand he’s there for offenses but you can’t be a complete defensive albatross like Drouin either
    9 janv. 2021 à 23 h 19
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    Montreal isn't taking on the Salary because we don't have the space. Unless we are giving you a bad contract bad (although we don't really have one)


    Paul Byron, 7 years for Josh Anderson, kinda Kulak just because y'alls depth, Weber, and I didn't even have to look
    9 janv. 2021 à 23 h 21
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    I understand he’s there for offenses but you can’t be a complete defensive albatross like Drouin either


    Drouin isn't a complete disaster defensively. He's not good, but like I said, he's not here for his defense.
    9 janv. 2021 à 23 h 21
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    Paul Byron, 7 years for Josh Anderson, kinda Kulak just because y'alls depth, Weber, and I didn't even have to look


    None of those players have bad contracts. Look at their advanced stats and you will see otherwise.
    9 janv. 2021 à 23 h 25
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    None of those players have bad contracts. Look at their advanced stats and you will see otherwise.


    Price I forgot about. And sure currently those players are worth it currently(not Byron because he's rarely in the lineup and y'all have possibly some of the best wing depth in the league) but Weber isn't going to age well, sadly. I do think the trade doesn't make too much sense for the habs (tho the value is fair just not the situation) because of the mass amounts of re-signing they have to do this offseason
     
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