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Nudge

Créé par: Zmach
Équipe: 2021-22 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 8 janv. 2021
Publié: 8 janv. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Cap friendly doesn't have an advanced contract function but as per CBA I believe you can load up the first year of the contract and have it count towards the cap as long as the years following the first are lower cap hit.

Consensus is RNH for 6 years @ 6.75 AAV
so given the oilers projected cap situation down the road and given that we would like to resign Mcdavid for what would be year 6 of nudge's contract for presumably league maximum 15 Million I would do as Follows:

Year 1) 12Million cap hit
year 2) 7.125 Cap hit
year 3) 7.125 Cap hit
year 4) 7.125 Cap hit
year 5) 7.125 Cap hit
year 6) UFA
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
33 000 000 $
33 200 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1950 000 $
21 500 000 $
11 000 000 $
1850 000 $
1850 000 $
44 500 000 $
34 500 000 $
112 000 000 $
Transactions
EDM
    Seattle
    VGK
    1. Neal, James
    2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
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    2023
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2381 500 000 $79 682 672 $669 339 $850 000 $1 817 328 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    12 000 000 $12 000 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 8
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    12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
    C
    UFA - 5
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    1 175 000 $1 175 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
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    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    AG, AD, C
    UFA
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    8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 4
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    3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
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    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
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    1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
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    3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 3
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    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
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    950 000 $950 000 $
    C
    UFA
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    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
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    850 000 $850 000 $
    AG
    UFA
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    850 000 $850 000 $
    AG, C, AD
    UFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    5 600 000 $5 600 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
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    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    850 000 $850 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
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    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 4
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    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
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    825 000 $825 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
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    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    DD
    RFA - 2
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    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2

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    8 janv. 2021 à 18 h 58
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    8 janv. 2021 à 18 h 59
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    You have to read the team explanation.
    8 janv. 2021 à 18 h 59
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    You have to read the team explanation.


    Nuge isn't worth McJesus money
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    8 janv. 2021 à 19 h 0
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    Quoting: Zmach
    You have to read the team explanation.


    Quoting: Jeuck75
    Nuge isn't worth McJesus money


    Even if its just 1 year
    8 janv. 2021 à 19 h 3
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    Im pretty sure this isnt a thing. Youre probably thinking of Nylanders deal where he was signed part way into the season as an RFA. Im 99% sure cap hit cant fluctuate like this for a UFA signing
    8 janv. 2021 à 19 h 7
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    It's not uncommon for players to have their salary like that the first year on a big contract just usually teams want the cap hit to be averaged out. I want the full cap hit of 12 million next year and 7.125 the following 4 years so that his contract expires at the same time as Mcdavid so that we can resign him and Draisaitl. if nudge is given a 6 year contract and the cap stays as flat as they are saying its not possible unless you buy him out on the last year.
    8 janv. 2021 à 19 h 10
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    You can front load actual $$$$$ in a contract, but a the cap remains the same for throughout the contract.
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    8 janv. 2021 à 19 h 12
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    Quoting: moli92
    Im pretty sure this isnt a thing. Youre probably thinking of Nylanders deal where he was signed part way into the season as an RFA. Im 99% sure cap hit cant fluctuate like this for a UFA signing


    Yes i would like to do the exact same thing as Nylander's contract.
    8 janv. 2021 à 19 h 13
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    Quoting: palhal
    You can front load actual $$$$$ in a contract, but a the cap remains the same for throughout the contract.


    How did Nylander's contract work like that then? Does it make a difference if the team drafted him?
    8 janv. 2021 à 19 h 16
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    Quoting: moli92
    Im pretty sure this isnt a thing. Youre probably thinking of Nylanders deal where he was signed part way into the season as an RFA. Im 99% sure cap hit cant fluctuate like this for a UFA signing


    It can't. You can front load a deal with signing bonuses and have a lower base salary for the year (the way the Leafs do a lot). But you can't change the cap hit.

    Also in a flat cap world, most teams won't be able to afford big signing bonuses right away. They're gonna start backloading deals instead which is gonna screw them if they ever wanna trade and or buy out a guy
    8 janv. 2021 à 19 h 24
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    How did Nylander's contract work like that then? Does it make a difference if the team drafted him?


    His cap was high in the first year because his "season" was shortened because he signed late and miss two months of regular season. Normally his 7m cap hit was spread over 6 months, shortened season he only played four months approximately . So his cap hit for that one season 7m X 6m divided by 4m (approximately) for 10.5m
    8 janv. 2021 à 19 h 42
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    You can get around the rules and structure cap hit like that by signing two separate contracts. For a normal contract, a player can sign a contract extension one full year before the contract expires. However if the initial contract is 1 year like in your scenario, the player must wait until some date in January (I think) for a regular season.

    So for Nuge, he could just sign a 1 year deal and then make a handshake deal agreeing to an extension that would be signed in January.
    8 janv. 2021 à 20 h 24
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    Quoting: Ryminister_27
    It can't. You can front load a deal with signing bonuses and have a lower base salary for the year (the way the Leafs do a lot). But you can't change the cap hit.

    Also in a flat cap world, most teams won't be able to afford big signing bonuses right away. They're gonna start backloading deals instead which is gonna screw them if they ever wanna trade and or buy out a guy


    The agents usually backload the deals so they are buyout proof.
    8 janv. 2021 à 21 h 4
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    The agents usually backload the deals so they are buyout proof.


    That's why I'm saying it makes it tough to buyout. But because of the pandemic teams can't afford front loaded deals right now. Maybe a handful of teams could, but not Edmonton
    9 janv. 2021 à 5 h 47
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    Quoting: Ryminister_27
    That's why I'm saying it makes it tough to buyout. But because of the pandemic teams can't afford front loaded deals right now. Maybe a handful of teams could, but not Edmonton


    Cap wise they can afford it. It’s shown above. Money wise they can also afford it, Darryl Katz is the most supporting owner in the league financial wise.
    9 janv. 2021 à 11 h 58
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    Cap wise they can afford it. It’s shown above. Money wise they can also afford it, Darryl Katz is the most supporting owner in the league financial wise.


    HA... that's a bold (false) statement.
    9 janv. 2021 à 17 h 58
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    Quoting: Ryminister_27
    HA... that's a bold (false) statement.


    Some of the media has calculated that he’s been spending about 10 million more than other teams on scouting and with paying all the dead cap and buyouts he has been a champ.
     
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