sandpaper is 4 dollars at lowes

Leafs decline. Marginal upgrade if any at all between Bertuzzi and Kerfoot, and definitely not the difference of Liljegren. Plus Bertuzzi is gonna need to be re-signed (or likely lost to Seattle) in a year. Doesn't make any sense for Toronto

No thank you from Detroit.

Can we get Todd as well?

That...Would be AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wings pass, not even close. You can keep kerfoot

Give him a call. He is currently working with Fox Sports Detroit as a on air personality and I think he is also coaching in one of the AAA franchises.

Bertuzzi back to back 20 goal seasons on a bad team. Kerfoot hasn't hit 20 yet and he had 9 goals playing in one of the best offenses in the league. OK buddy.

Bertuzzi played with Larkin and Mantha.. Kerfoot played with multiple wingers. Mikheyev, Johnsson, Kapanen, Engvall, etc. None of them come close to the calibre of line mates Bertuzzi had. Kerfoot's also a centre. They're more valuable than dime a dozen wingers. Kerfoot's versatile. Plus I said Bertuzzi's contract expires next season and Kerfoot's doesn't. That would cost the Leafs more on his contract, not to mention he's likely be exposed to Seattle and lost for nothing. Makes no sense for the Leafs. Again, I said MARGINAL upgrade to Bertuzzi. But the difference in the players is FAR less than Liljegren. Ok buddy?

I could see something around Bertuzzi for Sandin with minor additions. Liljegren doesn’t make much sense as he isn’t beating out Hronek or Seider but LHD isn’t as strong with McIsaac, Johansson, and Wallinder as the next up and coming guys.

And you think Bertuzzi had it any easier? Last season AA pretty much forgot how to play and Mantha was on IR for quite awhile, So they split up Bertuzzi and Larkin. The some of the players Bertuzzi was paired shouldn't even be in the NHL anymore.

Kapanen's career numbers 41g + 49a for 90 points in 202 games

Bertuzzi's career numbers 49g + 79a for 119 points in 199 games

So does that mean Kapanen only marginally better than Kerfoot?

Kapanen is only marginally better than Kerfoot. I don't see how that's a topic here at all.

Lmao.

Kerfoot and Bertuzzi play a completely different style of game. Comparing their stats is literally comparing apples to oranges.
Bert is more valuable to the Wings because he fits in so well with Larkin and Mantha. Regardless of if Kerfoot was the better player (I don't think he is, but hey, everybody has their opinions), his value would be inflated to the Wings for that reason. Also worth considering, the Wings have Hronek, Seider, Lindstrom, and potentially Tuomisto at RD. Liljegren isn't a bad prospect by any stretch of the imagination, but his value to the Wings isn't all that high because of the prospects they already have at that position.

In short, Detroit would decline. What they have is more appealing to them than what's offered.

Before last season your valuation of Bertuzzi because of Larkin and Mantha would totally make sense. After last season it doesn't make as much sense because Mantha was injured for a good part of the season and AA forgot how to play hockey. Leaving Larkin and Bertuzzi as the only players that could score with any consistency and they were split up to try to get other players scoring. Bertuzzi playing with Neilson and Filppula as his centers most of the season I think he proved he can produce on his own. But as you said it just opinion. I do like Liljegren but as you stated that side of the D is the only position Detroit doesn't have to worry about.

I didn't mean that Bert is only valuable because he plays with Larkin and Mantha, I meant that his value would be inflated because he has such good chemistry with them. Probably could have worded it a bit better, to be fair. I also think Bert's a better player than Kerfoot overall, and trading the two would be a downgrade for the Wings.