Tavares is overrated. He is not better than Eichel, Ryan O'Reilly, Couturier, Bergeron, Barkov, and Barzal

After this season, Matthews will be considered at worst 3rd and could go higher. This will finally be the season where no one will be able to debate it b

You mean the dude that almost scored 50 goals two years ago, along with 88 points. He almost scored at a PPG last year, while playing with a broken finger. Hes overpaid, not overrated.

Lol that might be a stretch, Crosby would have to decline significantly for that to happen.

Draisaitl over Matthews

if were talking about who gets more points

Why are you talking what happened two year's ago? Joe Thornton had 36 goals and 65 assist's, summing a total of 101 point's in 2002. Therefore, he is better than McDavid and should be ranked #1

um
ok

I agree

Point Matthews and petty over drai and Crosby, and Tavares lower

This is why no one on this site takes you seriously, at all

How?

this really depends how you rate them. Personally, I look at all around game and not just offence first.

1. Crosby
2. Barkov
3. Bergeron
4. Matthews
5. Couturier
6. O'Rielly
7. Pettersson
8. McDavid (beast offensively, not a great defensive centre at all)
9. Point
10. MacKinnon
11. Tavares
12. Eichel
13. Zibanejad
14. Malkin
15. Kopitar
16. Aho
17. Draisaitl
18. Barzal
19. Scheifele
Kuznetzov (wouldn't even be close to a top 20)

This is just if we're using the guys you've listed

I'm not biased, and that's the difference. You are not picking Tavares over any of the player's I listed (Barzal, Eichel, Barkov, O'Reilly and many other's).

Draisatil is also one of the worst defensive players in the league

no you're just a troll who literally only comments things to insult the Leafs in literally EVERYTHING you post. It's gets old.

Again, I'm not biased. If there is something I like, I will point it out. If there is something I don't like, I will point it out.

you literally only comment hate on the Leafs. It's quite hilarious actually.

My bad. Here is my list of the best player's in the league

Tavares
Matthews
Marner
Nylander
McDavid
MacKinnon
Crosby
Eichel
Bergeron
Barkov

I was saying 3/4 with Eichel as well. McDavid, Mack, Eichel, Matthews are going to cement then selves as the top 4 no debates.

yet again, another troll?.. how shocking.

& a quick look at your profile shows exactly what I mean. Literally just insulting Leafs in every comment made.

He won the Hart, scored more...*sarcasm

Point might pass Matthews this year, and establish himself as a true top 4 centre as well

I'm saying everything you want me to say as a Leafs fan. What else do you need?

Since when do trophies and points judge what player is better? they certainly help, but you have to account for who drai plays with. He scored 40% of his points on the PP, and ofc Mcdvaid is on that PP.