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Imagine PLD Instead of Tavares - unrealistic

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6 janv. 2021 à 14 h 22
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With the addition of PLD and Savard instead of Holl and Tavares , I’d say this team has a much better chance at a cup
6 janv. 2021 à 14 h 23
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Ya. Having a 5 million dollar second line center is usually better than having an 11 million dollar one in a cap world.
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6 janv. 2021 à 14 h 25
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Ya. Having a 5 million dollar second line center is usually better than having an 11 million dollar one in a cap world.


Signing Tavares was a huge mistake
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6 janv. 2021 à 14 h 28
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Signing Tavares was a huge mistake


I strongly disagree.
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6 janv. 2021 à 14 h 30
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You might as well just trade for Gourde so you can have Tampa's whole 3rd line.
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6 janv. 2021 à 14 h 32
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yeah I'll keep JT thanks.
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
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yeah I'll keep JT thanks.


So you don't want to make the playoffs?
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6 janv. 2021 à 14 h 35
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Jackets would say yes imo, tavares would say no. Leafs would think about it. Tavares is paid fine, but yes over 40 million in four forwards can be a detriment to depth.
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6 janv. 2021 à 14 h 36
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Quoting: TheLeafsSeason
So you don't want to make the playoffs?


dubois has 8 goals 19 points in 26 playoff games, tavares has 15 goals 30 points in 36gp

pretty sure we'll do fine with JT, he has the same # of second round appearances and more experience
6 janv. 2021 à 14 h 37
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Cool.
6 janv. 2021 à 14 h 37
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With the addition of PLD and Savard instead of Holl and Tavares , I’d say this team has a much better chance at a cup

Agreed.
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6 janv. 2021 à 14 h 37
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
dubois has 8 goals 19 points in 26 playoff games, tavares has 15 goals 30 points in 36gp

pretty sure we'll do fine with JT, he has the same # of second round appearances and more experience

Points aren’t everything.
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6 janv. 2021 à 14 h 40
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
dubois has 8 goals 19 points in 26 playoff games, tavares has 15 goals 30 points in 36gp

pretty sure we'll do fine with JT, he has the same # of second round appearances and more experience


Now look at hit's. Dubois is an all around player while Tavares is only one dimensional
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6 janv. 2021 à 14 h 42
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Quoting: TheLeafsSeason
Signing Tavares was a huge mistake


Just to expand on my previous point, going out and getting an elite UFA for elite UFA money isn’t horrible. Bending over backwards for your entry level RFAs and paying them like they’re 27 year old UFAs coming off three consecutive cups with art Ross trophies is horrible.
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6 janv. 2021 à 14 h 43
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Just to expand on my previous point, going out and getting an elite UFA for elite UFA money isn’t horrible. Bending over backwards for your entry level RFAs and paying them like they’re 27 year old UFAs coming off three consecutive cups with art Ross trophies is horrible.


Signing Tavares was setting the standard's for what the contract's are. If the Leafs did not sign Tavares, then there wouldn't be any overpayment's for the restricted free agent's.
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6 janv. 2021 à 14 h 45
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Signing Tavares was setting the standard's for what the contract's should be. If the Leafs did not sign Tavares, then there wouldn't be any overpayment's for the restricted free agent's.


Matthews overpaid by 1.5 (IF EVEN) marner over paid by pretty much the same
6 janv. 2021 à 14 h 47
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Matthews overpaid by 1.5 (IF EVEN) marner over paid by pretty much the same

Three million dollar player would be a nice bottom six add
6 janv. 2021 à 14 h 48
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Quoting: Brad21
Points aren’t everything.


Quoting: TheLeafsSeason
Now look at hit's. Dubois is an all around player while Tavares is only one dimensional


out of every player in the 18-19 playoffs, ryan o'rielly (the conn smythe winner) was 278th out 288 in hits/60. hitting doesn't mean ****, good defence, working hard and scoring more goals than your opponent does.

tavares is the hardest working leaf by a mile, he puts up timely goals and is tasked every year with playing top shutdown minutes. He's invaluable and you look silly trading him for a guy who's worse just bc he hits more lol
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Three million dollar player would be a nice bottom six add


you could argue jumbo, spezza, vesey, and simmonds should be getting more than they are

dubas negates the slight overpays on his stars by radically underpaying his depth lol. teams are sunk by bloated depth contracts, something of which the leafs have none of

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Three million dollar player would be a nice bottom six add


we have 3 m dollar players making less
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you could argue jumbo, spezza, vesey, and simmonds should be getting more than they are

dubas negates the slight overpays on his stars by radically underpaying his depth lol. teams are sunk by bloated depth contracts, something of which the leafs have none of

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GIMMMMMMEEEEE MOAAAARRRRR CHARRRRTS!!!!
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
you could argue jumbo, spezza, vesey, and simmonds should be getting more than they are

dubas negates the slight overpays on his stars by radically underpaying his depth lol. teams are sunk by bloated depth contracts, something of which the leafs have none of

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Jumbo, Vesey, Thornton, Spezza, and Simmonds will be either a fourth liner/press box watcher/AHLer for any contending team
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
you could argue jumbo, spezza, vesey, and simmonds should be getting more than they are

dubas negates the slight overpays on his stars by radically underpaying his depth lol. teams are sunk by bloated depth contracts, something of which the leafs have none of


I’m not a giant fan of having all three myself. I have no issue paying stars, my problem was that they got max aav without giving the full eight years. Right now they have somewhat cushy term without any real sacrifice and the leafs could’ve added some bottom six guys that aren’t possibly in their last year with that extra money. McDavid and draisaitl got basically what I would’ve given them max(draisaitl at time of signing) but had to give up 8 years. Now covid aside by year 4/5 of those deals they would look pretty nice.
6 janv. 2021 à 14 h 55
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Quoting: TheLeafsSeason
Jumbo, Vesey, Thornton, Spezza, and Simmonds will be either a fourth liner/press box watcher/AHLer for any contending team


spezza and thornton scored more points/60 last year than montreal's entire roster subtract their top 4-5 players. Jimmy vesey has scored 16+ goals 3 times.
6 janv. 2021 à 14 h 56
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we have 3 m dollar players making less

I disagree if you mean guys like Thornton as I don’t think he was what leafs need in their bottom six but that’s my opinion
 
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