Holl, Korshkov, and a 2nd is not a "pay". It's a very low offer for Ekholm. Besides, we don't need another left-shot D. Go for a right shot if you're gonna do this

ekholm is flexible, can play both sides. he's played with josi, ellis, and fabbro and always excelled.
he only has 2 years left on his contract, and there is no retention like there would be usually for rentals. i think the trade is pretty fair. talked to some nashville fans about it as well, they said they wouldn't mind. again, only if nashville is out of the playoff picture.

This trade also requires the assumption Nashville is totally out of the playoff picture come deadline. That's besides the fact that it's a lowball offer for an extremely valuable player (because his contract is so good for his caliber).

"brandon pridham is a cap god". Hardly. He was on the Leafs negotiation team when the Leafs paid a "hometown premium" on his top 3 RFAs by a total of 4.5m.

Gee, I hate to give up anything for Hall. You realize the Coyotes got worse after his arrival last season. LHD Eckholm isn't really needed, especially at the expense of a competent RHD Holl

I get that but the team can only have so many left shots. Rielly, Muzzin, Lehtonen, Dermott, Sandin, and now Ekholm too? Just seems like that's too many guys on their off sides. If I'm spending assets I'm looking for the right shot

sorry i forgot to mention that. this trade going through would mean nashville is, like buffalo (in this case) out of the playoff picture.
i'm not sure why you think it's a lowball offer. a 2nd, a 4th/5th defenseman, and a prospect that could become a decent 3rd liner for 2 years of ekholm. seems pretty fair.

derms and ekholm (also brodie lmfao) are all flexible, so i think it'd be fine. he's a very attractive option because he's a half-rental (2 years left), affordable, and obvy very good. better than a lot of the other RDs that cld be OTB at the deadline.

Holl is worth next to nothing IMO. he's a 6 d on a good team. Korshkov is also worth next to nothing, best case scenario he turns into a third liner. Absolute best case scenario. And a 2nd round pick is hardly anything as well. You're getting 3 C- level pieces for a B+ rental.

yea they're flexible but employing 6 left shot D out there isn't a good idea either

agreed. Holl worth maybe a 5th. Korshkov is a 24 year old grinder-type player that can't crack the leafs (not sure a 24 year old is even really a "prospect"), + a second rounder, and a good portion of the time those picks also turn into nothing.

2nd + 5/6 D + 24 year old who can't crack the Leafs for 2 years of Ekholm.

Would you accept that trade (not in terms of positional need, in terms of value) to give up 2 years of Muzzin?

So how much is Nylander overpaid in your opinion?

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muzzin is better than ekholm. a lot better. turn that 2nd into a 1st and yes, i would.

oh my.

pridham was part of the building of the salary cap. he knows the ins and outs. trust me.
he was not on the negotiation team, he is the cap person, not the negotiating person. that's dubas. also nylander looks like he's now underpaid at this point.
the coyotes were a dirt crap team, hall doesn't fit in there system. that trade would benefit the core up front.
ekholm is a top 30 defenseman, and is flexible. holl is good, he's a 5/6D, and ekholm can play the right to join with muzzin for a gorgeous shutdown playing.

You know the much ballyhooed Nashville defence Josi, Ellis, Eckholm, allowed just 8 fewer goals than the Leafs last season. Leafs are better getting rid of their two worse Dmen in Barrie and Ceci and having Brodie and others on the team.
I know Pridham knows the ins and out of the cap ....all teams do. He just isn't effective in implementing it. Something like Brian Burke, he's a media talking head as the know all godfather. But implementing a plan, he failed miserably in Toronto for various reasons.....laziness, addiction, maybe he isn't so smart.....I don't know the exact reasons.

He was overpaid at the time of signing of his contract. Pasterank signed that summer at 6.67 X 6. Larkin 6.1 X 5. You have to look at comparables at same time period. So Nylander for a six year term, 500,000 overpaid. At worse, it gave the precedence that the Leafs could be bullied in contract negotiations. Leafs were in first place at a 120 point pace, when he did sign in late November. I would made him sign "on team terms", wait for an offer sheet, or let him sit out the NHL for one, instead of giving in.

did u really say pridham hasn't been good at implementing in? i hope ur joking. we accrued 3.267M in space last year because of him sending players up and down and accruing space by the deadline. he's a genius. i'm not sure what you're on.
josi is an offensive defenseman. ellis is an offensive defenseman. fabbro and ekholm r more shutdown. of course they let in more goals than many would expect, they probably also scored a lot more.

he's a crucial player. you don't let a player like that just sit out on a season, especially when your core is in contention. that's not how it works.

Gee, man you sound like such a homer. Every team has cap specialist. Just because you know Pridham's name, doesn't make him a genius. All teams send players up and down if needed. Leafs did not accuse 3.267m by sending players "up and down"
Leafs accurred cap space mostly because Reilly and Muzzin were on LTIR for long periods. Now if you think having your two best Dman on LTIR is cap genius, that's a pretty unique thought. I'm not on anything though did have Hemp Hearts on my cereal this morning. Please look at the facts on how Leaf got cap space last season, instead of calling it genius.

Nylander was horrid in that partial season. Leafs would have been better without him. I don't believe in that logic "let him sit out" that you said. Nylander had the legal ability to sign with any pro team in the world, or not even play professional when he was without a contract. Nylander had no obligation to the Leafs, or the Leafs to him. It's a cap league and comparables are the norm.

Marner: Carolina's Aho signed a 8.45m X 5 offer sheet from the Canadians and was matched by the Canes, in the summer of the Marner contract. Aho and Marner had exactly the same stats for the two previous seasons. Marner's comparable for a six year contract should have been 9m X 6. Leafs somehow thought 10.893 X 6. That's 1.9m per season too much. Shanahan, Dubas, and Pridham and the other Leaf executive for some reason give hometown premiums to their RFAs, including Matthews.

Comparables $$--% of cap--date of signing--1st prior--2nd prior (pts that year)
LARKIN--$6.1M--7.67%--Aug-18--63--32
EHLER--$6.0M--8.00%--Oct-17--64--38
PASTRANAK--$6.7M--8.89%--Sep-17--70--26

NYLANDER--$6.9M--8.76%--Dec-18--61--61

Higher cap % then Ehlers and Larkin based on two solid seasons, and a bit less than Pastranak based on him having the breakout 70pt season before his deal.

Seems right in line with his comparables to me.

Not sure how the Leafs taking it to the absolute final min was a sign of weakness (esp. considering he got market value)

Also, it's pretty well common knowledge now that Nylander was holding out for term not $$. His deal was always going to be the hardest, with Matthews and Marner mega deals to follow. Nylander knew/knows he's the most likely to be shipped out, if he didn't fight for term, and ended up taking a bridge, there's no way he's still a Leaf when the bridge is done, as they couldn't possibly afford his 3rd contract with the big 3 signed (incl Tavares) long term.

If anything, the Leafs mistake on the Nylander deal was waiting too long to get serious in negotiations, it was end of summer before they really started, which didn't allow enough time before camp.

Also, letting him sit a season would have poisoned an already fragile room. Babcock would have hated Nylander more than he did already, and likely further alienate the young core. That would have been the wrong move.

brodie also shoots left lol hes just plays RD

If either Ekholm or Hall are available at the deadline, these offers get beat by a dozen other teams.

Hall retained could easily cost Sandin and a 2nd.