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    5 janv. 2021 à 14 h 56
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    Quoting: Bigboi69
    Oops there’s supposed to be a 6th with gourde


    hahaha i have no problem with gourde but Montreal needs their own cap space for young players
    5 janv. 2021 à 14 h 59
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    Wings pass, not even close
    5 janv. 2021 à 15 h 4
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    I remember Vincent Lecavalier flat out refusing too.
    Steven Stamkos was offered $2 million more to go home and he came back and asked for the best contract he could get here and signed it immediately.
    Marty St.Louis demanded a trade and wouldn’t to go home to Montreal. There are 3 players as example.


    Stamkos had the choice of signing with the team that lost in the final or the team that had just had the worst record in the leauge aswell as state tax, stlouis demanded a trade to new York so he could be with his mom who was dying from cancer, and I dunno what happened with lecavlier
    5 janv. 2021 à 15 h 6
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    And the lightning aren’t resigning Slater koekkoek. Btw I wish they would.
    5 janv. 2021 à 15 h 7
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    Quoting: CD282
    Over who? You're comparing Palat to the Oilers taxi squad, that's silly - of course he's an upgrade over those guys. They don't need to spend $5.3M and a 1st to upgrade the taxi squad. Realistically Palat is fighting Nuge and Kahun for a top-6 LW job, he's not an upgrade over either guy.


    Palat is 100% an upgrade over kahun but he’s not fighting with kahun or RNH those guys play with drai, and nygard and other taxi squad level guys are who have been mcdavids wings throughout his career
    5 janv. 2021 à 15 h 7
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    Maybe the guy who plays on the wing of Say point and Kucherov or Point and Stamkos who gets to live in Tampa instead of Edmonton ( no disrespect to the city of Edmonton) but where would you rather be in February?


    When kuch comes back palat plays with cirelli and killorn
    5 janv. 2021 à 15 h 8
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    And the lightning aren’t resigning Slater koekkoek. Btw I wish they would.


    They might next year
    5 janv. 2021 à 15 h 10
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    Quoting: Bigboi69
    Stamkos had the choice of signing with the team that lost in the final or the team that had just had the worst record in the leauge aswell as state tax, stlouis demanded a trade to new York so he could be with his mom who was dying from cancer, and I dunno what happened with lecavlier

    It was St. Louis it was only for his dying mom which is part of it why did he ask Brian Lawton to be traded only to the Rangers when he was the lightning GM
    5 janv. 2021 à 15 h 14
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    Quoting: Bigboi69
    When kuch comes back palat plays with cirelli and killorn

    Like he did all last year during the season ohhh I forgot that was Stamkos on Cirelli’s wing With Killorn Palat played with Kuch and point
    5 janv. 2021 à 15 h 18
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    It was St. Louis it was only for his dying mom which is part of it why did he ask Brian Lawton to be traded only to the Rangers when he was the lightning GM


    What?
    5 janv. 2021 à 15 h 19
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    Like he did all last year during the season ohhh I forgot that was Stamkos on Cirelli’s wing With Killorn Palat played with Kuch and point


    Stamkos played the last 20 games of the season with kuch and point and they where all producing at their peak
    5 janv. 2021 à 15 h 20
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    Quoting: Bigboi69
    What?


    Brian Lawton the GM prior to Steve Yzermann said when that crap was going down that when he was Gm Marty came into his office almost weekly demanding a trade to the Rangers only on NHL TONIGHT
    5 janv. 2021 à 15 h 21
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    Brian Lawton the GM prior to Steve Yzermann said when that crap was going down that when he was Gm Marty came into his office almost weekly demanding a trade to the Rangers only


    Yes where his mother lived and she had cancer for a while before dying
    5 janv. 2021 à 15 h 22
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    Why is Koekkoek getting 2.5 for two years. He's done nothing to warrant that money. If you're gonna bring him back its gotta be 1.3 or less. Rutta was instantly more effective than Slats.
    Also, Gourde probably least likely to waive. He has a family and a life well entrenched in Tampa.
    5 janv. 2021 à 15 h 22
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    Yes where his mother lived and she had cancer for a while before dying

    She had cancer in 2008/2009? 6 year survivor
    5 janv. 2021 à 15 h 28
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    Quoting: Rangsey
    Why is Koekkoek getting 2.5 for two years. He's done nothing to warrant that money. If you're gonna bring him back its gotta be 1.3 or less. Rutta was instantly more effective than Slats.
    Also, Gourde probably least likely to waive. He has a family and a life well entrenched in Tampa.


    Koekoe has put up way better stats and analytics through this career here and their than rutta
    5 janv. 2021 à 15 h 29
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    She had cancer in 2008/2009? 6 year survivor


    My grandmother survived 32 years with a form of cancer that is supposed to be fatal within the first year or two so maybe
    5 janv. 2021 à 15 h 31
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    Quoting: Bigboi69
    My grandmother survived 32 years with a form of cancer that is supposed to be fatal within the first year or two so maybe
    You bring up the one in 10 billion example please come on man and Stamkos that wasn’t the reason he didn’t wanna go he said why he didn’t want to go to Toronto he just wanted to be a hockey player he didn’t want his whole life turned upside down every little thing he does do in Toronto would be under a microscope here he can sit out a restaurant and not be bothered that’s why he stayed here
    5 janv. 2021 à 15 h 41
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    Koekoe has put up way better stats and analytics through this career here and their than rutta


    you looking at quality of comp too? Koekkoek was more sheltered than Sergachev and struggled to play Cooper's system. He got moved because he stalled. Rutta plays the way Tampa wants to play,
    5 janv. 2021 à 16 h 12
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    You bring up the one in 10 billion example please come on man and Stamkos that wasn’t the reason he didn’t wanna go he said why he didn’t want to go to Toronto he just wanted to be a hockey player he didn’t want his whole life turned upside down every little thing he does do in Toronto would be under a microscope here he can sit out a restaurant and not be bothered that’s why he stayed here


    My point was every cancer is diffrent so how should you know how long his mother has cancer for, or maybe he just wanted to go to where all his family was, what’s so wrong about that
    5 janv. 2021 à 16 h 15
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    My point was every cancer is diffrent so how should you know how long his mother has cancer for, or maybe he just wanted to go to where all his family was, what’s so wrong about that

    Absolutely nothing but you said who would not want to go home and play for the home town team and I gave you 3 all having their own reasons don’t assume someone wants to go home .... btw with St. Louis his wife also hated the area big factor
    5 janv. 2021 à 17 h 6
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    Lol how is a guy who plays first line on the cup champs not an upgrade over jokingly nygard lol


    He’s not an upgrade over nuge so he’s not touching top line.
    Questionable if he beats out kahun for a spot next to Leon on second line. I’d lean towards kahun because of chemistry kahun and Leon developed internationally.
    So now we are talking spending a first to add an expensive 3rd line lw. No disrespect to the offer but it’s just not as attractive as an option for Edmonton as you’ve suggested.
    5 janv. 2021 à 17 h 31
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    Quoting: Bigboi69
    Palat is 100% an upgrade over kahun but he’s not fighting with kahun or RNH those guys play with drai, and nygard and other taxi squad level guys are who have been mcdavids wings throughout his career


    Not so. Nugent-Hopkins plays with McDavid now, I've told you this already in this thread. The most likely lines are

    Nugent-Hopkins - McDavid - Kassian
    Kahun - Draisaitl - Yamamoto

    Here are all 5 wingers (the 4 above + Palat) and their 5v5 P/60 last year:

    Yamamoto: 3.16
    Kahun: 2.43
    Nugent-Hopkins: 2.23
    Kassian: 2.21
    Palat: 1.84

    Same 5 guys by 5v5 G/60:

    Kassian: 1.03
    Yamamoto: 1.00
    Nugent-Hopkins: 0.98
    Kahun: 0.90
    Palat: 0.72

    I'm 100% sure the Oilers have no interest in paying $5.3M and a first round pick for a DOWNGRADE in the form of a 30-year-old rental winger.
    5 janv. 2021 à 19 h 27
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    It’s taking mcdonagh for the leadership and I know how good berggren is but mcdonaghs contract ends at about when detriot will start being competitive so it won’t hurt them and berggren may value is about a first so I could prolly add a second for the mcdonagh cap dump


    Mcdonagh's leadership isn't worth Berggren and taking on a extra $6.75M in cap for the next 6 seasons. Berggren is one of Detroit's best prospects easily in their top 5.
    6 janv. 2021 à 11 h 15
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    Quoting: Timmah007
    He’s not an upgrade over nuge so he’s not touching top line.
    Questionable if he beats out kahun for a spot next to Leon on second line. I’d lean towards kahun because of chemistry kahun and Leon developed internationally.
    So now we are talking spending a first to add an expensive 3rd line lw. No disrespect to the offer but it’s just not as attractive as an option for Edmonton as you’ve suggested.


    You do realize players can play both sides right, palat showed that in the playoffs by switching wings with kucherov multiple times
     
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