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Deck the Hall

Créé par: Oilfan1717
Équipe: 2021-22 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 5 janv. 2021
Publié: 5 janv. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3900 000 $
3800 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
73 571 428 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
66 160 000 $
43 000 000 $
2750 000 $
1750 000 $
2750 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
37 333 333 $
43 000 000 $
Transactions
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EDM
    Lost to Seattle in expansion draft. Lagesson is the sweetener.
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    EDM
    1. Lemieux, Brendan
    2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (NYR)
    NYR
    1. Kahun, Dominik [Droits de RFA]
    Rachats de contrats
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2381 500 000 $80 285 267 $669 339 $940 000 $1 214 733 $

    Formation

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    AG, C
    UFA - 8
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    UFA - 5
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    3 600 000 $3 600 000 $
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    UFA - 2
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    UFA - 4
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    3 571 428 $3 571 428 $
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    RFA - 1
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    1 550 000 $1 550 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
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    1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
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    870 000 $870 000 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
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    RFA - 2
    750 000 $750 000 $
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    UFA
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    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
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    834 167 $834 167 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
    C
    RFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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    UFA - 4
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
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    5 600 000 $5 600 000 $
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    UFA - 1
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    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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    UFA - 1
    750 000 $750 000 $
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    UFA - 1
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    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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    RFA - 2
    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 6
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    750 000 $750 000 $
    C
    UFA
    750 000 $750 000 $
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    5 janv. 2021 à 5 h 21
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    Pistol Pete
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    Ouch. I don’t think I’d trade either one of those players for brown right now.
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    5 janv. 2021 à 9 h 3
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    Banni
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    Doubt RNH signs for anything less then $7.5 million long term, Grubauer is way underpaid doubt he takes anything less then $5 mil to $5.5 mil per for 2 years or so and Hall isn't taking less to come back to Edmonton he'll want at least 4 years $32 milion give or take.
    5 janv. 2021 à 9 h 11
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    Lemieux was one of the worst players in the league last year, that's a horrible trade. Why don't I see Rangers fans proposing Kreider-for-Archibald swaps?

    5v5 P/60 last year
    Kahun: 2.43 (34th best forward in the league)
    Kreider: 2.27 (51st)
    Archibald: 1.20 (270th)
    Lemieux: 1.05 (296th)
    5 janv. 2021 à 9 h 34
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    Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
    Grubauer is way underpaid doubt he takes anything less then $5 mil to $5.5 mil per for 2 years or so


    Backups and 1B goalies don't command that kind of money. He's never played more than 37 games in a season, hard to pay a guy like that Starter Money. Here are the stats of goalies in the same GP range as Grubauer over the past 3 years:

    Ranta: 92 GP, .924 sv%
    Khudobin: 102 GP, .922 sv%
    Grubauer: 108 GP, .918 sv%
    Saros: 97 GP, .917 sv%
    Crawford: 107 GP, .917 sv%
    Halak: 125 GP, .915 sv%
    Greiss: 101 GP, .912 sv%

    Fortunately for us 4 of these guys have signed contracts recently, giving us some idea of present value in a flat-cap world.

    Khudobin: $3.33M x 3 (10/2020)
    Crawford: $3.9M x 2 (10/2020)
    Greiss: $3.6M x 2 (10/2020)
    Halak: $2.25M x 1 (5/2020)

    The OP's offer above is low for the term given, just as your suggestion is too high for the term given. Reality is somewhere in the middle: $3 - 4M for a 2-3 year term and probably (I'm guessing here as there aren't any comps listed above) $4 - 5M for a 4+ year term.
    5 janv. 2021 à 9 h 36
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    Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
    Hall isn't taking less to come back to Edmonton he'll want at least 4 years $32 milion give or take.


    Just because Buffalo gave him $8M x 1 doesn't mean that any other team will match that value and give term too.
    5 janv. 2021 à 9 h 44
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    Banni
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    Quoting: CD282
    Backups and 1B goalies don't command that kind of money. He's never played more than 37 games in a season, hard to pay a guy like that Starter Money. Here are the stats of goalies in the same GP range as Grubauer over the past 3 years:

    Ranta: 92 GP, .924 sv%
    Khudobin: 102 GP, .922 sv%
    Grubauer: 108 GP, .918 sv%
    Saros: 97 GP, .917 sv%
    Crawford: 107 GP, .917 sv%
    Halak: 125 GP, .915 sv%
    Greiss: 101 GP, .912 sv%

    Fortunately for us 4 of these guys have signed contracts recently, giving us some idea of present value in a flat-cap world.

    Khudobin: $3.33M x 3 (10/2020)
    Crawford: $3.9M x 2 (10/2020)
    Greiss: $3.6M x 2 (10/2020)
    Halak: $2.25M x 1 (5/2020)

    The OP's offer above is low for the term given, just as your suggestion is too high for the term given. Reality is somewhere in the middle: $3 - 4M for a 2-3 year term and probably (I'm guessing here as there aren't any comps listed above) $4 - 5M for a 4+ year term.


    You're comparing Grubauer who's only 29 years old to much older Goaltenders that are towards the ends of their careers, Grubauer is making $3,333,333 right now he'll easily get at least $4 million on his next deal and considering him a backup is laughable he's a solid starter that has put up solid numbers with Colorado. He'll be the one to being them the cup this season.
    5 janv. 2021 à 10 h 7
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    Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
    You're comparing Grubauer who's only 29 years old to much older Goaltenders that are towards the ends of their careers, Grubauer is making $3,333,333 right now he'll easily get at least $4 million on his next deal and considering him a backup is laughable he's a solid starter that has put up solid numbers with Colorado. He'll be the one to being them the cup this season.


    I'm pretty sure that's what I said, Grumpy Old Man.
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    5 janv. 2021 à 13 h 40
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    Quoting: CD282
    Lemieux was one of the worst players in the league last year, that's a horrible trade. Why don't I see Rangers fans proposing Kreider-for-Archibald swaps?

    5v5 P/60 last year
    Kahun: 2.43 (34th best forward in the league)
    Kreider: 2.27 (51st)
    Archibald: 1.20 (270th)
    Lemieux: 1.05 (296th)


    There’s more to hockey than scoring points - Lemieux provides toughness and grit, which is especially important considering the loss of Kassian.
    5 janv. 2021 à 13 h 44
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    Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
    Doubt RNH signs for anything less then $7.5 million long term, Grubauer is way underpaid doubt he takes anything less then $5 mil to $5.5 mil per for 2 years or so and Hall isn't taking less to come back to Edmonton he'll want at least 4 years $32 milion give or take.


    I think RNH would rather stay with the organization that drafted him (and with whom he has a bright future) rather than chasing an extra 15-20% with a different franchise.
    5 janv. 2021 à 14 h 19
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    There’s more to hockey than scoring points - Lemieux provides toughness and grit, which is especially important considering the loss of Kassian.


    You don't trade a top-6 forward for "toughness and grit" when that player is well below replacement-level though. You can pick those guys up in the UFA market for less than $1M every year.
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