If I was forced to trade from the top

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Créé par: Onslaught77

Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 4 janv. 2021

Publié: 4 janv. 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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It's less about would the stars do it than it is the idea behind what to do with the money if forced to trade money off the Leafs. That being said I attempted to trade so it would be beneficial to the team but the money issue would have to be worked out on the stars side. (3-way deal?)
so it's trading Marner for a decent playmaking winger who makes about 7m. The JT line is a skill vs speed line anyway so Pavelski fits right in. The Leafs could absorb the rest of the money the stars need in a rental or just let the stars trade a rental to someone. That leaves the money needed for Miro's next contract.

Transactions

TOR

DAL

Holl, Justin
Marner, Mitchell
Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (TOR)

Rachats de contrats

Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2021
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FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
21	81 500 000 $	76 215 907 $	0 $	2 500 000 $	5 284 093 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hyman, Zach 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston 11 640 250 $11 640 250 $ C UFA - 4	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD UFA - 4
Thornton, Joe 700 000 $700 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 1	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 5	Pavelski, Joe 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AD NMC UFA - 2
Vesey, Jimmy 900 000 $900 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Kerfoot, Alexander 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 3	Mikheyev, Ilya 1 645 000 $1 645 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
Simmonds, Wayne 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AD, AG NTC UFA - 1	Engvall, Pierre 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2	Spezza, Jason 700 000 $700 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Heiskanen, Miro 894 166 $894 166 $ (2 500 000 $$2M) DG/DD UFA - 1	Andersen, Frederik 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
Muzzin, Jake 5 625 000 $5 625 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 4	Brodie, TJ 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG/DD NMC UFA - 4	Campbell, Jack 1 650 000 $1 650 000 $ G UFA - 2
Lehtonen, Mikko 925 000 $925 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Dermott, Travis 874 125 $874 125 $ DG/DD UFA - 1
	Bogosian, Zach 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 1

Équipe de réserve
Robertson, Nicholas 821 667 $821 667 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AG, AD RFA - 4
Sandin, Rasmus 894 167 $894 167 $ (0 $$00 $$0) DG UFA - 2

4 janv. 2021 à 22 h 0

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Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan

That isn’t even remotely close to getting MiroConsidered an eight top pair right handed shot 21 year old defenseman yeah that doesn’t even get you in the conversation that’s such a ridiculous offer

Isn't he left handed?

4 janv. 2021 à 22 h 2

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Quoting: Onslaught77

Yeah. I like Marner I really do but he's replaceable on a core like this one. I get that fans love him and all but he's the only reasonable option to trade if you want to save AAV. Trading Nylander does nothing to save AAV and they can't trade JT nor would that make sense. A playmaker for JT can be slower, as long as they are skilled. All these people wanting the Leafs to trade because "you can't have that much tied up in 4 players" don't get that the only reasonable end to that argument is Marner playing elsewhere.

The people who keep screaming that crap are trolls you just really want to see the Leafs fail. Spending money on stars isn't a problem as long as you don't overpay depth, which they don't do.

4 janv. 2021 à 22 h 3

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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary

I get what you’re saying but gotta make the trade realistic. Marner doesn’t have enough value to fetch a Heiskanen level D. I think trading him for Pavelski+Oleksiak is more sensible.

Now that is just offensive. A old terrible contract and at best #4 d for a 90+ point 23 year old player? Come on, that is just insanity.

4 janv. 2021 à 22 h 4

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Quoting: Miles_Togo

What's done is done. No one is going to help Toronto out the mess management created. Let the contracts play out while enjoying a talented team go nowhere and then start a rebuild - hopefully doing it right next time.

Yeah let's trade Marner for Matt Martin and then we'll see that pluggers who can't do anything but hit and fight win! Are you secretly Brian Burke?

4 janv. 2021 à 22 h 5

#30

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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary

TBH, if the Leafs paid Marner maybe 9 Million, their long term cap situation would be a lot better & they’d be set up to build a dynasty. It’s unfortunate he’ll have to be traded but squeezing for an overpay comes at a cost.

Oh ****, you are the same robot as the MikeyPensFan and MitchMarnerElite!

4 janv. 2021 à 22 h 7

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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

Isn't he left handed?

4 janv. 2021 à 22 h 13

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Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan

I just checked and he is left handed

4 janv. 2021 à 23 h 3

#33

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Quoting: Onslaught77

He means if they did. Hence hindsight.

Right, but he wouldn’t become a UFA for a long time no matter what

5 janv. 2021 à 1 h 15

#34

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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

Or just keep paying Holl 2 million to do a great job next to Muzzin.

That's my opinion as well. The idea is basically if I had no choice. If I was forced to trade for cap room.

5 janv. 2021 à 6 h 42

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Quoting: Onslaught77

That's my opinion as well. The idea is basically if I had no choice. If I was forced to trade for cap room.

Then move Kerfoot, trading a star for a downgrade just to get cap is stupid

5 janv. 2021 à 17 h 3

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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

Or just keep paying Holl 2 million to do a great job next to Muzzin.

Holl is very good but I fear he will be taken by Seattle so Toronto would need to find a replacement. Dermott could evolve into a top 4 guy by then but there’s no guarantee yet. So for now, Oleksiak would be my target. He can play the right side and generates great defensive results.

5 janv. 2021 à 17 h 47

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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary

At the cost of Marner? You are 100% the MitchMarnerElite robot.

5 janv. 2021 à 17 h 57

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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

At the cost of Marner? You are 100% the MitchMarnerElite robot.

No I meant signing him as a free agent in 2021.

5 janv. 2021 à 20 h 58

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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

Then move Kerfoot, trading a star for a downgrade just to get cap is stupid

I agree. The point was if I was to take the idea that the Leafs can't pay that many high AAV players seriously, who has to go.

5 janv. 2021 à 21 h 52

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Quoting: Onslaught77

I agree. The point was if I was to take the idea that the Leafs can't pay that many high AAV players seriously, who has to go.

They can though it's not even worth thinking about, because the only reason why you would be forced to move a core piece is if you have spent too much on depth guys that don't contribute enough to warrant their contracts. Giving the Killorn's of the League around 5 million kills the cap. Who would you rather have, Johnson and Killorn? Or Marner and Vesey? Eberle and Anders Lee or JT and Engvall? This is where everyone who is adamant the Leafs have to trade their core are just lost.

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