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If I was forced to trade from the top

Créé par: Onslaught77
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 4 janv. 2021
Publié: 4 janv. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
It's less about would the stars do it than it is the idea behind what to do with the money if forced to trade money off the Leafs. That being said I attempted to trade so it would be beneficial to the team but the money issue would have to be worked out on the stars side. (3-way deal?)
so it's trading Marner for a decent playmaking winger who makes about 7m. The JT line is a skill vs speed line anyway so Pavelski fits right in. The Leafs could absorb the rest of the money the stars need in a rental or just let the stars trade a rental to someone. That leaves the money needed for Miro's next contract.
Transactions
TOR
  1. Heiskanen, Miro
  2. Pavelski, Joe
DAL
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. Marner, Mitchell
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $76 215 907 $0 $2 500 000 $5 284 093 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
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Matthews, Auston
11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 4
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Nylander, William
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 4
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Thornton, Joe
700 000 $700 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 1
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Tavares, John
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
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Pavelski, Joe
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
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Vesey, Jimmy
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
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Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C, AD
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Mikheyev, Ilya
1 645 000 $1 645 000 $
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Simmonds, Wayne
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
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Engvall, Pierre
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD, AG
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Spezza, Jason
700 000 $700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
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UFA - 2
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Heiskanen, Miro
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
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UFA - 4
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Brodie, TJ
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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Campbell, Jack
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
G
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Lehtonen, Mikko
925 000 $925 000 $
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Dermott, Travis
874 125 $874 125 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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Bogosian, Zach
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
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Exempté du ballottageRobertson, Nicholas
821 667 $821 667 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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RFA - 4
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Sandin, Rasmus
894 167 $894 167 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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4 janv. 2021 à 19 h 58
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Dallas wouldn't touch that
4 janv. 2021 à 20 h 0
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In hindsight, maybe the Leafs should’ve let Marner sit out the year & walk away in free agency. They could’ve used the money to sign Taylor Hall to maybe 9-10 Million long term.
4 janv. 2021 à 20 h 2
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Dallas asks you the repeat as they laugh hysterically at your offer
4 janv. 2021 à 20 h 3
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Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
Dallas asks you the repeat as they laugh hysterically at your offer


God I wish people on this site would learn how to read.
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4 janv. 2021 à 20 h 4
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Miro will be buying a nice house in Dallas
4 janv. 2021 à 20 h 5
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God I wish people on this site would learn how to read.

That isn’t even remotely close to getting MiroConsidered an eight top pair right handed shot 21 year old defenseman yeah that doesn’t even get you in the conversation that’s such a ridiculous offer
4 janv. 2021 à 20 h 9
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In hindsight, maybe the Leafs should’ve let Marner sit out the year & walk away in free agency. They could’ve used the money to sign Taylor Hall to maybe 9-10 Million.


Yeah. I like Marner I really do but he's replaceable on a core like this one. I get that fans love him and all but he's the only reasonable option to trade if you want to save AAV. Trading Nylander does nothing to save AAV and they can't trade JT nor would that make sense. A playmaker for JT can be slower, as long as they are skilled. All these people wanting the Leafs to trade because "you can't have that much tied up in 4 players" don't get that the only reasonable end to that argument is Marner playing elsewhere.
4 janv. 2021 à 20 h 10
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Miro will be buying a nice house in Dallas


It wasn't about Dallas now go read explanation like you should on every one of these.
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4 janv. 2021 à 20 h 10
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Few teams would be interested in trading for Marner and they certainly would not be giving up a lot to take on that contract.
4 janv. 2021 à 20 h 11
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God I wish people on this site would learn how to read.


I get what you’re saying but gotta make the trade realistic. Marner doesn’t have enough value to fetch a Heiskanen level D. I think trading him for Pavelski+Oleksiak is more sensible.
4 janv. 2021 à 20 h 11
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Hell no from Dallas.
4 janv. 2021 à 20 h 13
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Hell no from Dallas.

You’re going to have to grossly over pay or he stays if I’m Dallas
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4 janv. 2021 à 20 h 13
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Quoting: Onslaught77
Yeah. I like Marner I really do but he's replaceable on a core like this one. I get that fans love him and all but he's the only reasonable option to trade if you want to save AAV. Trading Nylander does nothing to save AAV and they can't trade JT nor would that make sense. A playmaker for JT can be slower, as long as they are skilled. All these people wanting the Leafs to trade because "you can't have that much tied up in 4 players" don't get that the only reasonable end to that argument is Marner playing elsewhere.


What's done is done. No one is going to help Toronto out the mess management created. Let the contracts play out while enjoying a talented team go nowhere and then start a rebuild - hopefully doing it right next time.
4 janv. 2021 à 20 h 13
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God I wish people on this site would learn how to read.


IKR
4 janv. 2021 à 20 h 13
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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
I get what you’re saying but gotta make the trade realistic. Marner doesn’t have enough value to fetch a Heiskanen level D. I think trading him for Pavelski+Oleksiak is more sensible.

You’re going to have to grossly over pay or he stays if I’m Dallas
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You’re going to have to grossly over pay or he stays if I’m Dallas


Yes
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4 janv. 2021 à 20 h 17
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Quoting: Onslaught77
Yeah. I like Marner I really do but he's replaceable on a core like this one. I get that fans love him and all but he's the only reasonable option to trade if you want to save AAV. Trading Nylander does nothing to save AAV and they can't trade JT nor would that make sense. A playmaker for JT can be slower, as long as they are skilled. All these people wanting the Leafs to trade because "you can't have that much tied up in 4 players" don't get that the only reasonable end to that argument is Marner playing elsewhere.


TBH, if the Leafs paid Marner maybe 9 Million, their long term cap situation would be a lot better & they’d be set up to build a dynasty. It’s unfortunate he’ll have to be traded but squeezing for an overpay comes at a cost.
4 janv. 2021 à 20 h 18
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It wasn't about Dallas now go read explanation like you should on every one of these.

You wanted to save money to sign Miro in the last paragraph which I read and saving money for a player you won’t get makes no sense you are going to pay a lot more than that if you want him from Dallas.
4 janv. 2021 à 20 h 22
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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
I get what you’re saying but gotta make the trade realistic. Marner doesn’t have enough value to fetch a Heiskanen level D. I think trading him for Pavelski+Oleksiak is more sensible.


The point though is that a trade that deals with the issue would involve putting half of Marner's salary on the blueline. It really is that simple.
4 janv. 2021 à 20 h 24
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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
In hindsight, maybe the Leafs should’ve let Marner sit out the year & walk away in free agency. They could’ve used the money to sign Taylor Hall to maybe 9-10 Million long term.


Walk away in free agency? That would occur in like 2024
4 janv. 2021 à 20 h 25
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Walk away in free agency? That would occur in like 2024


He means if they did. Hence hindsight.
4 janv. 2021 à 20 h 31
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The point though is that a trade that deals with the issue would involve putting half of Marner's salary on the blueline. It really is that simple.


Honestly, I don’t think the Leafs need to spend that much money on defence. Their top 3 (Rielly, Muzzin and Brodie) are already very good. Ideally you sign someone like Oleksiak for around 3.5 Million in 2021 to be the 4D and you’re all set.
4 janv. 2021 à 21 h 58
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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
In hindsight, maybe the Leafs should’ve let Marner sit out the year & walk away in free agency. They could’ve used the money to sign Taylor Hall to maybe 9-10 Million long term.


That is a shining endorsement for doing exactly what the Leafs did.
4 janv. 2021 à 21 h 59
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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
Honestly, I don’t think the Leafs need to spend that much money on defence. Their top 3 (Rielly, Muzzin and Brodie) are already very good. Ideally you sign someone like Oleksiak for around 3.5 Million in 2021 to be the 4D and you’re all set.


Or just keep paying Holl 2 million to do a great job next to Muzzin.
4 janv. 2021 à 22 h 0
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Quoting: Miles_Togo
Few teams would be interested in trading for Marner and they certainly would not be giving up a lot to take on that contract.


Totally, who would want a 23 year old 90+ point winger in a league where scoring goals is so important?
 
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