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Pittsburgh Penguins signed John Marino (6 Years / $4,400,000 AAV)

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3 jan à 11 h 35
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John Marino has signed a new contract with the Pittsburgh Penguins.
CONTRAT STANDARD (PROLONGATION)
Contrats comparablesCOMPARER CE CONTRAT
DURÉE: 6 ANS
STATUT À L’ÉCHÉANCE DU CONTRAT: UFA
CONTRAT SIGNÉ AVEC: Penguins de PittsburghPenguins de Pittsburgh
VALEUR: 26 400 000 $
% DU C.H. : 5,40
DATE DE SIGNATURE: 3 janvier 2021
SOURCE: CapFriendly
SAISONCLAUSECAP HIT AAV BONIS DE PERFORMANCE BONIS DE SIGN. SALAIRE DE BASE SALAIRE TOTAL SALAIRE DES LIGUES MINEURES
2021-224 400 000 $4 400 000 $0 $0 $1 750 000 $1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
2022-234 400 000 $4 400 000 $0 $0 $3 500 000 $3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
2023-244 400 000 $4 400 000 $0 $0 $5 250 000 $5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
2024-25M-NTC4 400 000 $4 400 000 $0 $0 $6 150 000 $6 150 000 $6 150 000 $
2025-26M-NTC4 400 000 $4 400 000 $0 $0 $5 300 000 $5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
2026-27M-NTC4 400 000 $4 400 000 $0 $0 $4 450 000 $4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
TOTAL26 400 000 $26 400 000 $0 $0 $26 400 000 $26 400 000 $26 400 000 $
DÉTAILS DE LA CLAUSE: Le joueur soumet une liste de 8 équipes où il refuse d'être échangé.
SOURCE: CapFriendly
3 jan à 11 h 37
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Good value deal for a budding top-4 guy. This has some Slavin/Pesce potential to be one of the biggest contract steals in a few years.
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3 jan à 11 h 37
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Bit risky doing this a year early, but Marino is a very good young dman and this is a good contract for them.
Well done JR. You've had a rough off season but this is a legitimately good move.
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3 jan à 11 h 38
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If Marino keeps developing, this contract will be a huge steal.

Once in a while JR can surprise us positively.
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3 jan à 11 h 39
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Quoting: justaBoss
If Marino keeps developing, this contract will be a huge steal.

Once in a while JR can surprise us positively.


JR is generally a good GM for a win-now club. He's just very...inconsistent...mainly because he's basically a random dart thrower.
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3 jan à 11 h 39
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This is risky... It could end up as a huge steal, but remeber Zaitsev, right? He had great rookie season and regressed badly after that...
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3 jan à 11 h 42
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Quoting: KubaH
This is risky... It could end up as a huge steal, but remeber Zaitsev, right? He had great rookie season and regressed badly after that...


The analytics never were that favorable to Zaitsev even during his rookie season. It's quite a different picture with Marino, who actually played like a true top-pairing guy at times this past season. This is way more like Slavin/Pesce than Zaitsev.
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3 jan à 11 h 42
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Quoting: KubaH
This is risky... It could end up as a huge steal, but remeber Zaitsev, right? He had great rookie season and regressed badly after that...


I mean. Zaitsev's rookie season was replacement level 5v5 and was propped up by PP usage. Marino in the other hand has been stellar at 5v5 (and significantly better than Z even in his best season).

While regression is very possible here, he has a long ways to go before this looks like a bad contract. I like the bet.
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3 jan à 12 h 03
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Pens will regret this in 3 years MARK MY WORDS
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3 jan à 12 h 21
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Quoting: DongLord23
Pens will regret this in 3 years MARK MY WORDS


MARINO IS A FUTURE #1 ELITE TWO-WAY DEFENSEMAN.
MARK MY WORDS!!!
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3 jan à 12 h 22
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Quoting: Hockyluv21
Good value deal for a budding top-4 guy. This has some Slavin/Pesce potential to be one of the biggest contract steals in a few years.


Quoting: Random2152
Bit risky doing this a year early, but Marino is a very good young dman and this is a good contract for them.
Well done JR. You've had a rough off season but this is a legitimately good move.


Quoting: justaBoss
If Marino keeps developing, this contract will be a huge steal.

Once in a while JR can surprise us positively.


This is an incredible contract!
Early estimates were around 5 1/2-6 M.
Marino was in the 90th percentile in EV defence this year and I think he has more offence to give!
He’s amazing!
Thanks, Edmonton!!!
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3 jan à 12 h 27
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Good Solid Deal, but walks him right into UFA, and idk what Pittsburgh will be like in 6-7 years without Crosby Malkin Letang and Many many others
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3 jan à 12 h 29
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To Pittsburgh Penguins: signing rights to John Marino

To Edmonton Oilers: 2021 sixth-round draft pick
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3 jan à 12 h 33
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Quoting: DavidAyers
Good Solid Deal, but walks him right into UFA, and idk what Pittsburgh will be like in 6-7 years without Crosby Malkin Letang and Many many others


This doesn't walk him straight to UFA. It buys out 3 UFA seasons.
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3 jan à 12 h 36
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
To Pittsburgh Penguins: signing rights to John Marino

To Edmonton Oilers: 2021 sixth-round draft pick


BuT wE wErE lOaDeD wItH dEfEnSiVe PrOsPeCtS

Once again, talent always wins out. When the talent is there, you take the bet.
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3 jan à 12 h 41
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Quoting: Pens3lieve
This is an incredible contract!
Early estimates were around 5 1/2-6 M.
Marino was in the 90th percentile in EV defence this year and I think he has more offence to give!
He’s amazing!
Thanks, Edmonton!!!


Who was predicting 6mil? for a guy with less than a full season under his belt, considering his short track record and the flat cap issue on a team near the limit- this is an overpay! He may turn into the next Slavin or Pesce- but they had longer track records and werent signing on a cap strapped team during a pandemic. A risky move (and unnecessary) at this time.
3 jan à 12 h 58
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Quoting: Hockyluv21
This doesn't walk him straight to UFA. It buys out 3 UFA seasons.


Yeah people don't know what they are talking about! What's next a team will sign a UFA and they will say that the deal is walking the player to free agency lol
3 jan à 13 h 08
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This is one of those overpayments for now but steal later signings, good job GMJR though my question is why are you paying Matheson more to do less
3 jan à 13 h 14
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
This is one of those overpayments for now but steal later signings, good job GMJR though my question is why are you paying Matheson more to do less


JR didn't pay him that...Tallon did. JR traded for the contract because it filled a LHD role and because it had less AAV than Hornqvist's deal.
3 jan à 13 h 20
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Solid contract. Even if he only peaks at a top 4 guy this is still very good.
3 jan à 13 h 23
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This Kid is so good rite now, He would be a #1 RHD for atleast 20 NHL teams...... WHAT A STEAL
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3 jan à 13 h 24
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Quoting: DavidAyers
Good Solid Deal, but walks him right into UFA, and idk what Pittsburgh will be like in 6-7 years without Crosby Malkin Letang and Many many others


We will be fine in 2 yrs with Sid & Barkov as #1 & #2 Centers
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3 jan à 13 h 28
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Ehhhhhh I don't like the term, what if he flops in year 2 and then continues flopping? Money fine tho
3 jan à 13 h 43
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They got that 2nd pair for the near future locked up to solid contracts. Rly great value for the pens
3 jan à 14 h 00
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But he never won a Super bowl....wait wrong Marino.
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