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Créé par: MarkWinnipeg
Équipe: 2020-21 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 1 janv. 2021
Publié: 1 janv. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Money works next season with 24.3 million in space roster of 14. Even if they reup Pionk, Copp and Lowry still leave 12 million to fill fill out five roster spots. If Little came back healthy Lowry walks and call it 10 million for those five spots.
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11 750 000 $
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WPG
  1. Tuch, Alex
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (NJD)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
Frees up around 2.5 million this season and next
VGK
  1. Niku, Sami
  2. Roslovic, Jack [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Adds some size and Tuch has put up 2nd line production in the past.
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $79 925 358 $0 $850 000 $1 574 642 $
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2 280 000 $2 280 000 $
C, AG, AD
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
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775 000 $775 000 $
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Équipe de réserve
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4 125 000 $4 125 000 $ (3 050 000 $$3M3 050 000 $$3M)
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800 000 $800 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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725 000 $725 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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1 janv. 2021 à 17 h 39
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Tuch>Roslovic and Niku
1 janv. 2021 à 17 h 40
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don't think CBJ takes that. PLD plays a more complete game, is a center, and has gotten consistently better year over year.

Laine is a winger who doesn't play nearly as complete of a game, and has seen his #1 asset, production, decline year over year.

You can say Laine is more skilled and "better" if you look at production alone but future #1C > future #1W any day of the week
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1 janv. 2021 à 17 h 43
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Vegas shouldn't be adding picks here and doubt Roslo/Niku alone get Tuch, could see Roslo and Niku doing well in Vegas though.
1 janv. 2021 à 18 h 15
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Vegas shouldn't be adding picks here and doubt Roslo/Niku alone get Tuch, could see Roslo and Niku doing well in Vegas though.


Ya this isn’t it
1 janv. 2021 à 19 h 48
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Vegas shouldn't be adding picks here and doubt Roslo/Niku alone get Tuch, could see Roslo and Niku doing well in Vegas though.


I think they will no one is in a hurry to help them out cap wise unless its worth their while, Stastny = 4th Schmidt =3rd. No one's taking on Fleury unless a 1st is coming back,.

Roslovic = 2nd & 4th
Niku = 3rd / 4th 775k aav
Tuch = 3rd/ 4th in this trade market 4.75m aav

They're going to be up against it next year and are exempt from the expansion draft so no salary being plucked of their roster there. They might get a 2nd from some team for him but then who's replacing him
1 janv. 2021 à 19 h 51
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don't think CBJ takes that. PLD plays a more complete game, is a center, and has gotten consistently better year over year.

Laine is a winger who doesn't play nearly as complete of a game, and has seen his #1 asset, production, decline year over year.

You can say Laine is more skilled and "better" if you look at production alone but future #1C > future #1W any day of the week


Yes definitely but if he's not interested in being there long term but Laine is willing to sign an extension do you prefer 4 more years of PLD or 7-9 of Laine.
1 janv. 2021 à 19 h 56
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Yes definitely but if he's not interested in being there long term but Laine is willing to sign an extension do you prefer 4 more years of PLD or 7-9 of Laine.


as far as anyone knows Laine wouldn't be willing to sign more term with Columbus than PLD, that's a very bold assumption to make.
1 janv. 2021 à 20 h 13
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as far as anyone knows Laine wouldn't be willing to sign more term with Columbus than PLD, that's a very bold assumption to make.


Laine can sign an extension right now if he was inclined I'm sure that would be part of the discussion of any swap for him with any team
1 janv. 2021 à 21 h 21
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I think they will no one is in a hurry to help them out cap wise unless its worth their while, Stastny = 4th Schmidt =3rd. No one's taking on Fleury unless a 1st is coming back,.

Roslovic = 2nd & 4th
Niku = 3rd / 4th 775k aav
Tuch = 3rd/ 4th in this trade market 4.75m aav

They're going to be up against it next year and are exempt from the expansion draft so no salary being plucked of their roster there. They might get a 2nd from some team for him but then who's replacing him


Okay but are they gonna give Tuch away like they did Schmidt or send a 2nd and 4th with him? Come on, they don't need to even trade him, maybe they'd deal him for Roslovic plus picks but they're not sending picks with Tuch if they decided to trade him which I don't see why they would.
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1 janv. 2021 à 21 h 44
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Okay but are they gonna give Tuch away like they did Schmidt or send a 2nd and 4th with him? Come on, they don't need to even trade him, maybe they'd deal him for Roslovic plus picks but they're not sending picks with Tuch if they decided to trade him which I don't see why they would.


Probably not no, but a 2nd and a 4th and a cheaper replacement coming back is probably more palatable then the 1st and 2nd to move Fleury don't see that price going down next off season. Depending when Lerner comes off ltir or if he can even go on they'll have to make some move that leaves room for recalls .
1 janv. 2021 à 21 h 56
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Laine can sign an extension right now if he was inclined I'm sure that would be part of the discussion of any swap for him with any team


ok but how do you know Dubois won't sign long term once he's proved himself on the bridge deal?
1 janv. 2021 à 22 h 1
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ok but how do you know Dubois won't sign long term once he's proved himself on the bridge deal?


I don't for sure, AGM is completely hypothetical. Word is he wants out of Columbus guess we'll see. They had the space to lock him up long term this offseason ended up as a low ball bridge.
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1 janv. 2021 à 23 h 17
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Probably not no, but a 2nd and a 4th and a cheaper replacement coming back is probably more palatable then the 1st and 2nd to move Fleury don't see that price going down next off season. Depending when Lerner comes off ltir or if he can even go on they'll have to make some move that leaves room for recalls .


So if Vegas decides to move Tuch you think they're going to need to send picks with him?
2 janv. 2021 à 0 h 27
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So if Vegas decides to move Tuch you think they're going to need to send picks with him?


No probably not if there just wanting a pick back for the cap space, but then Tampa had to give up a 2nd to dump 3.35 million in cap space and those contracts are expiring and can be flipped at the deadline. if we're sending Roslovic and Niku back yes. If not best of luck with 0 cap space and we keep them.

They need to get around 1.5-2 under the cap right now to cover themselves in case of injuries, you can run a roster of 20 but unless an injury is 10 games and 24 days it can't be put on ltir to create more space.

Teams can't just put injured players on the taxi squad to make space much like they can't send them to the AHL. So your forced to play with 17, 16, 15 skaters if they pile up.
2 janv. 2021 à 1 h 21
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Quoting: MarkWinnipeg
I think they will no one is in a hurry to help them out cap wise unless its worth their while, Stastny = 4th Schmidt =3rd. No one's taking on Fleury unless a 1st is coming back,.

Roslovic = 2nd & 4th
Niku = 3rd / 4th 775k aav
Tuch = 3rd/ 4th in this trade market 4.75m aav

They're going to be up against it next year and are exempt from the expansion draft so no salary being plucked of their roster there. They might get a 2nd from some team for him but then who's replacing him


You think Tuch is worth a 3rd? Hahaha ok
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2 janv. 2021 à 1 h 46
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You think Tuch is worth a 3rd? Hahaha ok


Schmidt was
2 janv. 2021 à 1 h 49
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Schmidt was


Apples and oranges. Schmidt was moved because we were signing Petro. Everyone knew it.

Tuch is under 25, locked into a great deal and just showed what he can truly do in the post season.

If he’s not that great why is he instantly slotting instantly in your top 6?
2 janv. 2021 à 11 h 43
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Apples and oranges. Schmidt was moved because we were signing Petro. Everyone knew it.

Tuch is under 25, locked into a great deal and just showed what he can truly do in the post season.

If he’s not that great why is he instantly slotting instantly in your top 6?


I'm not saying he's a bad player but they need to move out cap. They can become compliant by cutting it down to a roster of 20 but. They need to get around 1.5-2 under the cap right now to cover themselves in case of injuries, you can run a roster of 20 but unless an injury is 10 games and 24 days it can't be put on ltir to create more space.

Teams can't just put injured players on the taxi squad to make space much like they can't send them to the AHL. So your forced to play with 17, 16, 15 skaters if they pile up.

Ideally you run a roster of 23 and have about 1 million in cap space for an extra call up if you go beyond 3 players on IR. Cap space is at a premium right now.
 
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