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My Entire 2021 Season Predictions - Standings, Playoffs, Expansion Draft, Entry Draft, Awards, All-NHL Teams and a Mock Patrick Kane Trade

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https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2131629 - North Division
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2132450 - East Division
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2138959 - Central Division
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2138974 - West Division
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2137484 - Playoffs R1 and R2
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2139863 - Playoffs R3 and R4
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2140331 - Awards
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2140297 - First Team All-NHL, Second Team All-NHL, All-Rookie Team
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2142351 - Expansion Draft and Protection Lists
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2146043 - Top 15 Draft Preview
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/404401 - Top 15 Mock
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2169973 - All-Division Teams
A lot of these were created before even Duclair signed so if you do take a peek at some, I may be talking about Kucherov playing, Lundqvist playing, a Huberdeau-Barkov-Tippett line (which may still happen) or Hoffman being unsigned. Those didn't majorly affect anything though. I know you won't look at all these links (you may not look at any) so I'll sum it all up here. If you do wanna check it out, I have an in-depth analysis on basically everything. One on every team as well with the exception of Detroit, Ottawa and New Jersey because they are a waste of time. The only thing that I have changed my mind on since I made these lists is that I now have Chicago in last behind Detroit in the Central. I also have changed my mind about Corson Ceulemans and think he'll be 13th to Buffalo and Cole Sillinger will be 15th to Minnesota (from Pittsburgh). I have also changed my mind on Byfield after the WJC. My new pick is probably Stuetzle for the 3rd nominee and I think Gabriel Vilardi for the centre spot on the All-Rookie Team. Another thing is that, with Tarasenko likely missing seasons start and Nolan Patrick returning, I’ve changed my Masterton Trophy 3rd nominee pick to Patrick

North
1. Toronto
2. Calgary
3. Montreal
4. Edmonton
5. Vancouver
6. Winnipeg
7. Ottawa

East
1. Philadelphia
2. Boston
3. Washington
4. New York Rangers
5. Pittsburgh
6. Buffalo
7. New York Islanders
8. New Jersey

Central
1. Tampa Bay
2. Carolina
3. Dallas
4. Columbus
5. Nashville
6. Florida
7. Detroit
8. Chicago

West
1. Colorado
2. Vegas
3. St. Louis
4. San Jose
5. Minnesota
6. Arizona
7. Anaheim
8. Los Angeles

Playoffs
North
Toronto vs Edmonton - Toronto in 6
Calgary vs Montreal - Calgary in 7
Toronto vs Calgary - Calgary in 7
Calgary Flames

East
Philadelphia vs New York Rangers - Philadelphia in 5
Boston vs Washington - Washington in 7
Philadelphia vs Washington - Philadelphia in 7
Philadelphia Flyers

Central
Tampa Bay vs Columbus - Tampa Bay in 5
Carolina vs Dallas - Dallas in 6
Tampa Bay vs Dallas - Tampa Bay in 7
Tampa Bay Lightning

West
Colorado vs San Jose - Colorado in 4
Vegas vs St. Louis - Vegas in 7
Colorado vs Vegas - Colorado in 7
Colorado Avalanche

Reseeding - 1. Tampa Bay, 2. Colorado, 3. Philadelphia, 4. Calgary
Tampa Bay vs Calgary - Tampa Bay in 5
Colorado vs Philadelphia - Colorado in 6
Tampa Bay vs Colorado - Tampa Bay in 7
The Tampa Bay Lightning are your 2021 Stanley Cup Champions!

Awards
Art Ross - Nathan MacKinnon
Calder Trophy - Kirill Kaprizov (Alexis Lafrieniere, Tim Stuetzle)
Conn Smythe Trophy - Victor Hedman
Selke Trophy - Sean Couturier (Mark Stone, Ryan O'Reilly)
Hart Trophy - Nathan MacKinnon (Connor McDavid, Jack Eichel)
Ted Lindsay Award - Nathan MacKinnon (Connor McDavid, Jack Eichel)
Jack Adams Award - John Tortorella (Claude Julien, David Quinn)
Masterton Trophy - Devan Dubnyk (Oskar Lindholm, Nolan Patrick)
Norris Trophy - Victor Hedman (Cale Makar, Alex Pietrangelo)
Rocket Richard - Auston Matthews
GM of the Year - Joe Sakic (Marc Bergevin, Kevyn Adams)
Vezina Trophy - Andrei Vasilevskiy (Carey Price, Carter Hart)
Jennings Trophy - Andrei Vasilevskiy and Curtis McElhinney

All-NHL Teams
First Team All-NHL - Huberdeau, MacKinnon, Rantanen, Hedman, Makar, Vasilevskiy
Second Team All-NHL - Panarin, McDavid, Marner, Josi, Pietrangelo, Price
All-Rookie Team - Lafrieniere, Vilardi, Kaprizov, Valimaki, Romanov, Shesterkin

All-Division Teams
All-North - McDavid, Draisaitl, Matthews, Chabot, Rielly, Price
All-East - Crosby, Eichel, Panarin, McAvoy, Provorov, Hart
All-Central - Barkov, Huberdeau, Point, Hedman, Josi, Vasilevskiy
All-West - MacKinnon, Rantanen, O'Reilly, Makar, Pietrangelo, Gibson

If you want to see protection lists check out the link, not going to waste your finger strength to scroll past it all here for those who don't want to look at it
Seattle Kraken lineup
Dominik Kahun - Adam Henrique - JT Compher
Kieffer Bellows - Chris Tierney - Luke Kunin
Brandon Tanev - Aleksi Saarela - Vladislav Namestnikov
Nick Ritchie - Ivan Barbashev - Austin Wagner
Johnathan Dahlen - Rasmus Asplund - Daniel Sprong
Mathieu Joseph - Janne Kuokanen

Mark Giordano - TJ Brodie
Brady Skjei - Calvin De Haan
Carson Soucy - Cale Fleury
Shayne Gostisbehere - Sami Niku
Libor Hajek - Scott Harrington

Braden Holtby
Anton Khudobin
Adin Hill

My Draft Rankings (different from mock)
1. Owen Power
2. Carson Lambos
3. Simon Edvinsson
4. Brandt Clarke
5. Matthew Beniers
6. William Eklund
7. Dylan Guenther
8. Kent Johnson
9. Luke Hughes
10. Fabian Lysell
11. Jesper Wallstedt
12. Aatu Raty
13. Cole Sillinger
14. Chaz Lucius
15. Corson Ceulemans

Mock Draft
1. Chicago - Owen Power
2. Los Angeles - Carson Lambos
3. Seattle - Matthew Beniers
4. Detroit - Simon Edvinsson
5. Anaheim - Brandt Clarke
6. New Jersey - Luke Hughes
7. Ottawa - William Eklund
8. Minnesota - Kent Johnson
9. Florida - Dylan Guenther
10. Nashville - Aatu Raty
11. Winnipeg - Jesper Wallstedt
12. New York Islanders - Fabian Lysell
13. Buffalo - Corson Ceulemans
14. Vancouver - Chaz Lucius
15. Minnesota (from Pittsburgh) - Cole Sillinger

My Mock Kane Trade
I do think he'll be traded. I just can't think up a reason for Chicago to keep him around. This trade is at the deadline when Vegas has more built up cap from the CBA rule and can tinker around with injuries, call-ups and the taxi squad to make a few more hundred thousand dollars work. I do think that if Vegas gets Kane, they will win the Cup. Kane would also waive to go here for sure. For obvious reasons, who wouldn't want to be in situation like he would have. $10.5M to play hockey in Vegas! I know everybody likes to circle jerk home town teams, but c'mon, I'd take Vegas>my hometown if given the opportunity
Chicago Blackhawks get
- Alec Martinez
- 2021 1st round pick
- Peyton Krebs
- 2022 2nd round pick

Vegas Golden Knights get
- Patrick Kane
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Devils and Kings will not finish last. I'd also flip EDM and VAN. Hard to argue with anything else.

The Kane trade: I realize Krebs is a hot commodity right now, but I gotta think the price is gonna be significantly higher. I mean the Devils traded Blake Coleman for essentially a mid 1st and a late 1st. I think it'd cost Vegas Krebs, Hague, and two 1st rounders. Kane is still a top 5 offensive player, imo. He's also missed just one game in the past 5 seasons. Martinez isn't really worth a ton to a CHI, but I assume you needed to clear cap space for Kane.
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Devils and Kings will not finish last. I'd also flip EDM and VAN. Hard to argue with anything else.

The Kane trade: I realize Krebs is a hot commodity right now, but I gotta think the price is gonna be significantly higher. I mean the Devils traded Blake Coleman for essentially a mid 1st and a late 1st. I think it'd cost Vegas Krebs, Hague, and two 1st rounders. Kane is still a top 5 offensive player, imo. He's also missed just one game in the past 5 seasons. Martinez isn't really worth a ton to a CHI, but I assume you needed to clear cap space for Kane.


Who would finish below New Jersey? I don't see anyone nearly as bad as them.
It was LA vs ANA for last but I opted for LA as Gibson will win ANA some extra points. LA isn't too bad up front, D is bad and goalies are bad. ANA has some pretty bad forwards, good D and good goalie and I just think that a good goalie and defence will win more games than mediocre forwards
I opted for Edmonton over Vancouver as Edmonton was better than Vancouver last season and got better whereas Vancouver got worse. I like Vancouver's roster but just can't get past that fact.
I don't think that a stupid Blake Coleman trade is a measuring stick for Kane. I used Mark Stone and Erik Karlsson. Stone was Brannstrom (mid 1st) and 2nd and Karlsson was 3 meh prospects, a good d-man, what was intended and expected to be a late 1st and 2 2nds. Both those players were younger and on similar contracts (negotiated similar contracts with the traded to team) and Karlsson was an RHD so higher value there. I think Kane's value would be slightly above Stone's and below Karlsson. That could settle in at a good d-man, Krebs (a mid 1st), a real 1st and a 2nd.
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Who would finish below New Jersey? I don't see anyone nearly as bad as them.
It was LA vs ANA for last but I opted for LA as Gibson will win ANA some extra points. LA isn't too bad up front, D is bad and goalies are bad. ANA has some pretty bad forwards, good D and good goalie and I just think that a good goalie and defence will win more games than mediocre forwards
I opted for Edmonton over Vancouver as Edmonton was better than Vancouver last season and got better whereas Vancouver got worse. I like Vancouver's roster but just can't get past that fact.
I don't think that a stupid Blake Coleman trade is a measuring stick for Kane. I used Mark Stone and Erik Karlsson. Stone was Brannstrom (mid 1st) and 2nd and Karlsson was 3 meh prospects, a good d-man, what was intended and expected to be a late 1st and 2 2nds. Both those players were younger and on similar contracts (negotiated similar contracts with the traded to team) and Karlsson was an RHD so higher value there. I think Kane's value would be slightly above Stone's and below Karlsson. That could settle in at a good d-man, Krebs (a mid 1st), a real 1st and a 2nd.


Patrick Kane is a super star. He's never hurt. Kane is an all time great player still in his prime. There are no comps.
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Patrick Kane is a super star. He's never hurt. Kane is an all time great player still in his prime. There are no comps.


Unless your Gretzky, there are comps. Artemi Panarin, Ryan O'Reilly, Erik Karlsson, Mark Stone are possible guys. Kane is older than all these guys at trade time and is better than all with a possible exception of Karlsson so I think that combining age and skill, he rings in at about these trades. The Panarin trade was a fleecing by Columbus so I'd rule that out and O'Reilly took off post trade so I'd also rule that out. Karlsson was similar skill and contract wise at trade time but younger and a d-man so more value. Stone is the best comp. He was worse but he was way younger and similar contract wise given the immediate extension post-trade. I'd say the age comparison (Kane is 6 years older at trade time) and skill comparison (Kane is way better offensively, Stone is better defensively) probably balances the comparison in terms of trade value with a slight advantage Kane. I'd say that equals similar to my trade with some slight room for change in a Vegas or Chicago direction depending on your perspective.
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Devils and Kings will not finish last. I'd also flip EDM and VAN. Hard to argue with anything else.


You mean in their divisions?

New Jersey is clearly the worst in the east, and LA could absolutely finish last in the west, since their goaltending is considerably worse than Anaheim & Arizona.
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Patrick Kane is a super star. He's never hurt. Kane is an all time great player still in his prime. There are no comps.


Do you not remember the whole second half of the 2015 season why the Blackhawks were able to win the cup that year because he was ****ing injured for half the season.
But that same rule will allow the lightning to repeat after Kucherov spent the whole year on injury reserve
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Do you not remember the whole second half of the 2015 season why the Blackhawks were able to win the cup that year because he was ****ing injured for half the season.
But that same rule will allow the lightning to repeat after Kucherov spent the whole year on injury reserve


What a god send. Their team is totally illegal lmao. Last season it was Callahan, now Kucherov. They may even be able to trade for a guy like Palmieri at the TDL now. Something just seems fishy about the Kuch injury though. He didn't get injured on a party boat, it was obviously during the playoffs. They obviously just postponed his surgery to save their team for another year.
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What a god send. Their team is totally illegal lmao. Last season it was Callahan, now Kucherov. They may even be able to trade for a guy like Palmieri at the TDL now. Something just seems fishy about the Kuch injury though. He didn't get injured on a party boat, it was obviously during the playoffs. They obviously just postponed his surgery to save their team for another year.

Mid-November he started complaining
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What a god send. Their team is totally illegal lmao. Last season it was Callahan, now Kucherov. They may even be able to trade for a guy like Palmieri at the TDL now. Something just seems fishy about the Kuch injury though. He didn't get injured on a party boat, it was obviously during the playoffs. They obviously just postponed his surgery to save their team for another year.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/edit/2160009
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Do you not remember the whole second half of the 2015 season why the Blackhawks were able to win the cup that year because he was ****ing injured for half the season.
But that same rule will allow the lightning to repeat after Kucherov spent the whole year on injury reserve


I remember he came back in the playoffs and saved the Hawks from major cap problems at the TDL. That was over 5 years ago. What does that have to do with his trade value?
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I remember he came back in the playoffs and saved the Hawks from major cap problems at the TDL. That was over 5 years ago. What does that have to do with his trade value?

Go look at the long-term injury injury relief cap space that he opened up and what the Blackhawks did it to trade deadline in 2015
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Go look at the long-term injury injury relief cap space that he opened up and what the Blackhawks did it to trade deadline in 2015


So you're suggesting the Bolts are gonna make a play for Kane at the TDL and have Kuch back for the Playoffs?
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You mean in their divisions?

New Jersey is clearly the worst in the east, and LA could absolutely finish last in the west, since their goaltending is considerably worse than Anaheim & Arizona.


Devils have excellent goaltending and they’ve added a little depth. They were actually a top 10 team last six weeks of last season. Hughes will break out. PIT and BOS are gonna struggle.
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Devils have excellent goaltending and they’ve added a little depth. They were actually a top 10 team last six weeks of last season. Hughes will break out. PIT and BOS are gonna struggle.


The Devils aren't awful. But every other team is astronomically better. Only team that was close to them last year was the Sabres and they got substantially better. Every other team was substantially better last year and didn't get too much worse and the Devils didn't get too much better. Although they are slightly better, Corey Crawford doesn't compare to other improvements by teams like Buffalo and NYR and it doesn't put them on the same level as teams like NYI, WSH, BOS, PIT or PHI. They are clearly the worst team in this division.
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Devils have excellent goaltending and they’ve added a little depth. They were actually a top 10 team last six weeks of last season. Hughes will break out. PIT and BOS are gonna struggle.


Even if Pittsburgh and Boston have a bunch of injuries, their D and Forwards are still better than NJD. And the Devils’ goalies aren’t that much better than PIT or BOS.
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Even if Pittsburgh and Boston have a bunch of injuries, their D and Forwards are still better than NJD. And the Devils’ goalies aren’t that much better than PIT or BOS.


I agree with all of you that on paper BOS is a superior team. So is PIT. Both are highly susceptible to injuries. A short season will exacerbate injuries. If a key player misses 10 games, it'll be like missing 15-16 b/c of the short season. This season will be totally unpredictable. A young, hungry team could surprise a lot of us. Not sure it'll be the Devils, but it'll be somebody. If anyone of us picks 12 out of 16 playoff teams that be tough. Really tough. Think about it: At least 2 of the following teams will miss the playoffs in the East: WASH, PIT, BOS, NYI, PHI, & NYR.
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The Devils aren't awful. But every other team is astronomically better. Only team that was close to them last year was the Sabres and they got substantially better. Every other team was substantially better last year and didn't get too much worse and the Devils didn't get too much better. Although they are slightly better, Corey Crawford doesn't compare to other improvements by teams like Buffalo and NYR and it doesn't put them on the same level as teams like NYI, WSH, BOS, PIT or PHI. They are clearly the worst team in this division.


On paper, I agree with you. A lot can happen. A lot of curveballs will be thrown. Like I said earlier, I don't disagree with almost all your picks. But, there are only a handful of teams that can withstand multiple longterm injuries to key players and still make the playoffs.
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On paper, I agree with you. A lot can happen. A lot of curveballs will be thrown. Like I said earlier, I don't disagree with almost all your picks. But, there are only a handful of teams that can withstand multiple longterm injuries to key players and still make the playoffs.


I think your referencing Boston. Pastrnak is only out until February I believe and Marchand is only out for a week maybe. Hischier is also expected to miss training camp and have Marchands recovery time.
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I'd be absolutely shocked if Byfield finishes top 10 in Calder voting. He's been invisible in all but one WJC game and he's playing against kids.
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I'd be absolutely shocked if Byfield finishes top 10 in Calder voting. He's been invisible in all but one WJC game and he's playing against kids.


Yup, beginning to arrive at the same conclusion. I’m going to edit that one out as soon as I find out what rookies make their teams out of camp as well as lines. Guys I’m looking at for a replacement are Owen Tippett, Juuso Valimaki, Trevor Zegras, Connor McMichael, Dylan Cozens, Bowen Byram, Peyton Krebs, Nick Robertson and Tim Stuetzle. Maybe a few more just can’t think up of the top of my head. Vilardi, Romanov, Bjornfot, Kravstov, Denisenko. We’ll see but I’ll change it
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Yup, beginning to arrive at the same conclusion. I’m going to edit that one out as soon as I find out what rookies make their teams out of camp as well as lines. Guys I’m looking at for a replacement are Owen Tippett, Juuso Valimaki, Trevor Zegras, Connor McMichael, Dylan Cozens, Bowen Byram, Peyton Krebs, Nick Robertson and Tim Stuetzle. Maybe a few more just can’t think up of the top of my head. Vilardi, Romanov, Bjornfot, Kravstov, Denisenko. We’ll see but I’ll change it


If Alexis Lafreniere cracks the top six he'll probably win it, but I'm leaning towards Gabe Vilardi. He looked pretty good at the end of last season and he's gonna get a ton of opportunities with the Kings. A lot of the players you listed will be better players and some already are, but they might not get the same opportunities, especially if they play for good teams like Byram, McMichael, Krebs, Robertson, and Kravtsov. Zegras will be a popular choice. I'm definitely excited to see what Romanov brings, too.
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If Alexis Lafreniere cracks the top six he'll probably win it, but I'm leaning towards Gabe Vilardi. He looked pretty good at the end of last season and he's gonna get a ton of opportunities with the Kings. A lot of the players you listed will be better players and some already are, but they might not get the same opportunities, especially if they play for good teams like Byram, McMichael, Krebs, Robertson, and Kravtsov. Zegras will be a popular choice. I'm definitely excited to see what Romanov brings, too.


Yea, I think everyone just needs to see who makes their team first. I think Kaprizov is better right now than Laffy but we’ll see. I definitely can’t see Byfield there anymore
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Sorry for mass ping, but I put a lot of work into this and put it on the forums because of mods being on my ass for all the links at the top being in AGM and I knew I shouldn't have. Just want some more discussion. Won't mass ping again.
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