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My 2-Realistic Trades -MATLGA- Making A 3rd Line Great Again

Créé par: Sidstick87
Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 27 déc. 2020
Publié: 28 déc. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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***** TRADES [2] *****

Trade #1 : ROSLOVIC - COMRIE
~ I have always thought Roslovic could be a perfect 3C & think a change could help him play to his potential.
~ Comrie could def beat out DeSmith as back-up or at worst give us a better #3.

Trade #2 : MARCHESSAULT
~ Im not sure of what Marchessault's value is bc of all the different Rumors & how upside down the market is but IMO, Rite now that is fair for a team over the Cap.
BUT I have always liked how he gives 100% effort & is as talented as he is & will even play w/ a physical edge.
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UFA's Signed :
- LW- Matt Martin - $700, @ 1yr ~ This team is so soft, IMO I wouldn't mind 1 player that won't get bullied, picked on, & beat up.

- LHD- Mirco Mueller - $700, @ 1yr ~ A solid #8 LHD for Taxi Squad
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PTO's Offered : Maybe they push for spot?

- G- Jimmy Howard ~ At 36, maybe he still has something left & just played behind a really bad team last yr?

- L/W- Devon Shore ~ Still surprised he never caught on anywhere, only 26, & can play all 3 positions.

- RHD- Madison Bowey ~ 25yr old Physical former 2nd Rd R-Handed Dman

- RW- Brett Richie ~ A big Physical player = Pens Need
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Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 250 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1700 000 $
1700 000 $
1700 000 $
1700 000 $
1700 000 $
1700 000 $
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Comrie, Eric
  2. Roslovic, Jack [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
*[PIT] gets :
A guy I've liked for a while in Roslovic, who I think can still be a very good 3C for a team w/out a 3C. Also the Goalie - Comrie who could challenge DeSmith for back-up spot.
WPG
  1. Aston-Reese, Zach
  2. Riikola, Juuso
Détails additionnels:
*[WPG] gets :
A 3rd pairing LHD who can play both sides = as good & had a great 1st yr in NHL. Also the best Defensive Forward (analytically) in hockey in ZAR who is a solid bottom 6 guy & great PK guy.
2.
PIT
  1. Marchessault, Jonathan (500 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
*[PIT] gets :
- A R-Handed shot for the Left wall spot on PP#1 (w/ the same # as Kessel??) & IMO could play w/ both of Sid or Geno or even be that 3rd line Star.
- Could only be a 1yr Rental & lose in Exp. Draft (depending on how he does tho)
- a needed mid Rd pick in 21' Draft.
VGK
  1. Björkqvist, Kasper
  2. Sceviour, Colton
  3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
*[VGK] gets :
- Some much needed Cap Relief w/ only Retaining $500k
- a solid bottom 6 guy
- 2nd & 7th Rd Draft Picks
- a better than ranked former 2nd Rnd Prospect
Rachats de contrats
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2081 500 000 $78 931 842 $0 $850 000 $2 568 158 $

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AG, AD
UFA - 4
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8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
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3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
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UFA - 2
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 3
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
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UFA - 2
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UFA - 2
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UFA - 2
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
700 000 $700 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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750 000 $750 000 $
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UFA - 1
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AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
700 000 $700 000 $
G
UFA
700 000 $700 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
700 000 $700 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
700 000 $700 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AD, C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG, C
UFA - 1
700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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UFA
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28 déc. 2020 à 13 h 49
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Jets aren't trading Roslovic for another bottom pairing dman and Comrie is the goalie they're exposing to Seattle so this deal isn't happening.
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28 déc. 2020 à 13 h 50
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I don't think the value is there for either team to consider these deals
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28 déc. 2020 à 19 h 43
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I think ZAR and Riikola are more valuable to the Pens than Roslovic. Probably the Same with Roslovic to the Jets.

I would be ecstatic about the Marchessault deal though. We would need to make some cap space though. ZAR on LTIR and not trading for Roslovic might work though. Having a 3rd line of McCann/Janko/Marchessault. And 4th line of Tanev/Blueger/E-Rod and Lafferty, Riikola as scratches. And Ruthwedel on the taxi squad.
28 déc. 2020 à 20 h 3
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Not a single piece to entice Vegas to pull the trigger on that deal. Marchy isn’t a cap dump by any stretch of the imagination.
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28 déc. 2020 à 23 h 50
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Not a single piece to entice Vegas to pull the trigger on that deal. Marchy isn’t a cap dump by any stretch of the imagination.


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29 déc. 2020 à 2 h 18
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I'd really be ok with the 750k signing of Martin. But the penguins won't do it. Much like they didn't sign Haula. But it should be done.
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29 déc. 2020 à 8 h 27
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I'd really be ok with the 750k signing of Martin. But the penguins won't do it. Much like they didn't sign Haula. But it should be done.


It has been scary quite w/ Pens in No UFA talks, No Trade Rumors, & No info coming out at all??

It's almost like Ownership has told GMJR he is done after going 4 for 29 in the last 29 Trades & all the off-season bad UFA signings OR maybe bc we have no Prospects & only 2- Picks left in 1st 6 Rnds in Draft??
I think they told him, Its over and u have killed this franchise??

Just really sucks bc we are only 3 good bottom 6 forwards (2-3rd liners & 1- 4th liner) & a real NHL caliber back-up away from being a playoff team.
29 déc. 2020 à 9 h 14
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It has been scary quite w/ Pens in No UFA talks, No Trade Rumors, & No info coming out at all??

It's almost like Ownership has told GMJR he is done after going 4 for 29 in the last 29 Trades & all the off-season bad UFA signings OR maybe bc we have no Prospects & only 2- Picks left in 1st 6 Rnds in Draft??
I think they told him, Its over and u have killed this franchise??

Just really sucks bc we are only 3 good bottom 6 forwards (2-3rd liners & 1- 4th liner) & a real NHL caliber back-up away from being a playoff team.


I think if they were blaming JR he'd be gone by now. Although honestly I think he should be on his last year at this point, but that's just me. He's not the guy needed to move this team forward. He should probably pack up and move to a team that is starting to close out a window that needs a better GM to make a push. He's the right guy for that job. But he doesn't know how to close the window shut and start moving forward. Which is what this team needs right now. At 33 and 34 these guys need youth around them to extend their careers. He's not the guy to do that. They need someone willing to roll the dice and gamble on the younger players. Which is why trading away 1st all the time is killing this team. I honestly think they could have done without Kap and selected Mercer or Chinakhov or Lapierre. They should have simply selected and taken a run at a winger in FA while giving themselves a chance to go with the youth if need be. Mercer at 3C right now would look really nice next to Poulin and McCann. For the 3.2 mil they are paying Kap they could have taken a run at a few other guys, like Vesey, Fast, Nichushkin. I'm not sure the difference between those guys and Kap is a 1st. Matter of fact I think they are all about equal. But that's the choices he made because he's not willing to trust the thing that won him the cup here. aka youth.
He doesn't want to gamble on the youth. He'd rather gamble on expensive vets.

But as for the team. I think they need to rely on their youth that they have to be competitive at all. If you think they need 2 3rd liners and a 4th liner. Then you play Poulin and that's one. You play OConnor and that's a 4th liner for you. Yes you are still missing one 3rd liner, but frankly there are none. So maybe play Blueger at 3C and give a guy like Zohorna a try at 4C. Or you play Legare and tell McCann to play center. I'm not sure that's a better option though.
I also think you use the youth and replace Ceci namely Maniscalco.

I don't think the goalie situation is as bad as you make it. I think I counted 6 back to backs, and it's a short season. They will be fine. If Jarry gets hurt it doesn't matter they would be dead in the water no matter who the backup was in that case. Same with many other teams.
But if he rolls out the season and it's Jankowski, ERod and Ceci. You can count the season as good as done.
Because that's not going to win us games. It's clearly the GMs fault.

Personally I would have loved so see a lineup like this.

Jake, Sid, Namestnikov.
Zucker, Malkin, Rust
McCann, Mercer, Poulin
OConnor, Blueger, Tanev....till ZAR gets back. ZAR Blueger Tanev

Dumo Letang
Petterson Marion
Matheson Maniscalco.

I think I would at least look at that and say, now or never go for it. Let the youth step up because if they can't we don't deserve to win anyway and nothing better was coming.
But we got what we got at this point and it is what it is.
 
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