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Créé par: Grievous
Équipe: 2020-21 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 26 déc. 2020
Publié: 28 déc. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Sillä ei ole väliä mitä kirjoitan tähän, suurin osa lukutaidottomista ei halua kertoa minulle asioita, jotka minulle on kerrottu koko elämäni ajan. Sellaisia asioita, kuten äiti kertoi minulle viidennessä luokassa, kuten: "Voi en tiennyt, että olet vielä elossa, muuten olisimme sanoneet sinulle, että muutamme. Olen pahoillani, että sinun on täytynyt asua jalkakäytävällä seitsemän unohdan puhelinnumeromme ja osoitteemme, mutta lähetän sen sinulle postitse. Voi ....... sinulla ei ole postiosoitetta, anteeksi hetkeksi, minä ..... um .... on ..... ... ... hm ..... mene vankilaan muutamaksi vuodeksi, mutta kirjoitan sinulle kirjeen, jos löydän aikaa."

As far a cap savings go, every GM involved would be all in, all day everyday and twice on Sundays; so don't you dare give me your weak-sauce "hang up the phone, block my calls, laugh in my face jibber jabbery" - Kenny Freaking Holland
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
1750 000 $
1850 000 $
Transactions
1.
2.
EDM
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
3.
EDM
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
4.
EDM
  1. Fix-Wolansky, Trey
  2. Nash, Riley
  3. Peeke, Andrew
  4. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (NJD)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CBJ)
  6. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
*Conditional 2022 1st Round pick goes to Edm if Neal scores a combined 35 goals during the 20-21 to 21-22 seasons.
*Becomes as 2022 2nd Round pick if Neal scores a combined 28 goals during the 20-21 to 21-22 seasons.
*Becomes a 2022 3rd Round pick if Neal scores a combined 20 or more goals during the 20-21 to 21-22 seasons.
*If none of these conditions are met, it becomes a 2022 4th Round pick
CBJ
  1. Larsson, Adam
  2. Marody, Cooper
  3. Neal, James
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
*2023 2nd Round Pick Conditional, if James Neal does not score a total of 25 goals from 20-21 to 22-23 seasons. If he is no longer with Columbus by the end of the 22-23 season, this offer will be voided.
5.
EDM
  1. Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
  2. Kuemper, Darcy (2 000 000 $ retained)
ARI
  1. Bear, Ethan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Kassian, Zack
  3. Russell, Kris
  4. Skinner, Stuart
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
6.
EDM
  1. Jämsen, Aatu [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (CGY)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2021
Logo de EDM
Logo de MIN
Logo de CGY
Logo de BUF
Logo de NJD
Logo de EDM
Logo de PIT
Logo de EDM
2022
Logo de EDM
Logo de CBJ
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de ANA
2023
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $71 885 700 $341 534 $1 080 000 $9 614 300 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
975 000 $975 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 6
Logo de Panthers de la Floride
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 5
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance230 000 $$230K)
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 175 000 $1 175 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
850 000 $850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
7 260 000 $7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Panthers de la Floride
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
850 000 $850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Panthers de la Floride
850 000 $850 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
850 000 $850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
725 000 $725 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
875 000 $875 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
915 000 $915 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
863 333 $863 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
808 333 $808 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (425 000 $$425K425 000 $$425K) (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
G
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
G
UFA - 1

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28 déc. 2020 à 4 h 10
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Not a single one of those teams takes these deals. The value simply isn't there from the Oilers side.
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28 déc. 2020 à 5 h 41
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Not a single one of those teams takes these deals. The value simply isn't there from the Oilers side.


Fully agree not a single GM touches these trades
28 déc. 2020 à 5 h 41
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There is no conditions on trades in the new CBA
28 déc. 2020 à 12 h 1
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Quoting: Byrr
Not a single one of those teams takes these deals. The value simply isn't there from the Oilers side.


Quoting: GrinReaper
There is no conditions on trades in the new CBA


Arizona would probably take that trade just to offload salary. OEL already said hes not moving though.
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28 déc. 2020 à 12 h 4
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Arizona would probably take that trade just to offload salary. OEL already said hes not moving though.


No they don't. You need way more value than that.
28 déc. 2020 à 12 h 11
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Quoting: GrinReaper
There is no conditions on trades in the new CBA


This is not correct. Conditions are not permitted unless the player does not have have a contract. So you cannot add a condition that rewards the team that traded a player away when that player resigns with the club that has acquired the player. (like the Erik Karlsson deal where Ottawa got San Jose's 2021 2nd Rounder).
28 déc. 2020 à 12 h 13
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Quoting: Caerii
No they don't. You need way more value than that.


This is a useless point because OEL vetoed all trades already except Vancouver and Boston. Arizona absolutely would dump both of those contracts so that they don't go bankrupt, they are very cash poor on a good year and the owner is not doing well in his businesses. What did you think the derek stepan deal was all about?
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28 déc. 2020 à 12 h 17
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Quoting: Byrr
Not a single one of those teams takes these deals. The value simply isn't there from the Oilers side.


The FL and AZ deals are based on cap savings, old rumours and wishful thinking. Any deal involving OEL, IMHO is a bullet dodged.
28 déc. 2020 à 12 h 18
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Quoting: Zmach
This is a useless point because OEL vetoed all trades already except Vancouver and Boston. Arizona absolutely would dump both of those contracts so that they don't go bankrupt, they are very cash poor on a good year and the owner is not doing well in his businesses. What did you think the derek stepan deal was all about?


Yes you keep arguing with ****ty arguments...

The Coyotes have a new owner as of last year who is not worried about the losses and is trying to build a competitive and successful franchise. The Stepan trade was about moving a player they don't need to replenish draft picks.

They're not going to move OEL and Kuemper for scraps just because you don't have a clue what's actually going on.
28 déc. 2020 à 12 h 25
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Ekblad > Nurse
Driedger + Connolly > Koskinen + Lavoie
This must be a troll post
28 déc. 2020 à 12 h 30
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Quoting: Caerii
Yes you keep arguing with ****ty arguments...

The Coyotes have a new owner as of last year who is not worried about the losses and is trying to build a competitive and successful franchise. The Stepan trade was about moving a player they don't need to replenish draft picks.

They're not going to move OEL and Kuemper for scraps just because you don't have a clue what's actually going on.


Alex Meruelo is the guy who has no cash yes. Lots of his businesses are restaurant service food which have been impacted by covid the worst. On a good year the coyotes have been losing 20 million but with the way things are this year they will lose about 80 because there will be no revenue sharing coming in from the other owners. Most teams will lose 40-50 million. It is a reality that they need to reduce their cap hit and get closer to 66 million than 81.5.
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28 déc. 2020 à 13 h 21
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Quoting: VijayPatel11
Ekblad > Nurse
Driedger + Connolly > Koskinen + Lavoie
This must be a troll post


You could argue that anything you disagree with is a "troll post".
28 déc. 2020 à 16 h 44
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maybe you should take a break from this site
28 déc. 2020 à 22 h 17
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No, no, no, no. If you want us to take on James Neal, you pay us. He has no value to us whatsoever except as a possible means of weaponizing cap space to extract concessions in trade. Putting in all those conditions as though he might actually have any chance of having on-ice value is simply nonsensical - we've got a ton of wingers already, so there's nowhere to fit him in even if he wasn't a distant shadow of himself.
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No, no, no, no. If you want us to take on James Neal, you pay us. He has no value to us whatsoever except as a possible means of weaponizing cap space to extract concessions in trade. Putting in all those conditions as though he might actually have any chance of having on-ice value is simply nonsensical - we've got a ton of wingers already, so there's nowhere to fit him in even if he wasn't a distant shadow of himself.


It seems that people are so focused on what they THINK he is and on his cap hit that they are blind to actual facts. He was easily the 3rd best Oiler during the play-ins. He still is a very useful NHL goal scorer. The only season he was terrible was in Calgary, that is 1 season out of 12.

The only reason he didn't score 20, for the 11th out of 12 seasons was due to missing 16 games. He scored more goals in 15 fewer games that Dubois.

Seems to me that would have a smidge of value in Columbus, where goals don't come easy.
29 déc. 2020 à 14 h 35
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Quoting: Zmach
Alex Meruelo is the guy who has no cash yes. Lots of his businesses are restaurant service food which have been impacted by covid the worst. On a good year the coyotes have been losing 20 million but with the way things are this year they will lose about 80 because there will be no revenue sharing coming in from the other owners. Most teams will lose 40-50 million. It is a reality that they need to reduce their cap hit and get closer to 66 million than 81.5.


Facts matter less than opinions on this site.
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30 déc. 2020 à 16 h 37
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It seems that people are so focused on what they THINK he is and on his cap hit that they are blind to actual facts. He was easily the 3rd best Oiler during the play-ins. He still is a very useful NHL goal scorer. The only season he was terrible was in Calgary, that is 1 season out of 12.

The only reason he didn't score 20, for the 11th out of 12 seasons was due to missing 16 games. He scored more goals in 15 fewer games that Dubois.

Seems to me that would have a smidge of value in Columbus, where goals don't come easy.

They tend not to come easy when most of your forward corps is ripped to pieces by injuries. Neal at this point in his career is a slow middle-6 defensive liability; Tortorella wouldn't give him the time of day, let alone time on ice. And his contract extends into a third year, so he'd get in the way of resigning most of our core when they come up for new contracts in two years. I reiterate - he's valueless to the Jackets, and you have to pay us if you want us to take him on. Otherwise, feel free to retain your ostensible "useful goal scorer".
31 déc. 2020 à 2 h 46
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They tend not to come easy when most of your forward corps is ripped to pieces by injuries. Neal at this point in his career is a slow middle-6 defensive liability; Tortorella wouldn't give him the time of day, let alone time on ice. And his contract extends into a third year, so he'd get in the way of resigning most of our core when they come up for new contracts in two years. I reiterate - he's valueless to the Jackets, and you have to pay us if you want us to take him on. Otherwise, feel free to retain your ostensible "useful goal scorer".


I expect that Neal will be a high-scoring 4th line winger who can move up the line up as necessary and will be a net front presence on the top PP unit in the NHL this season.

If he is healthy he will score 12-15 goals and I bet you that is enough to be top 3 in Columbus this season.

We will see.
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31 déc. 2020 à 9 h 7
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Fully agree not a single GM touches these trades


Including Ken Holland.
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31 déc. 2020 à 9 h 11
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I expect that Neal will be a high-scoring 4th line winger who can move up the line up as necessary and will be a net front presence on the top PP unit in the NHL this season.

If he is healthy he will score 12-15 goals and I bet you that is enough to be top 3 in Columbus this season.

We will see.


If he's healthy that's a low estimate, TBH. Even in a shortened season.
31 déc. 2020 à 9 h 19
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