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Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 26 déc. 2020
Publié: 26 déc. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Simmonds, Wayne
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Leafs don't sign Simmonds, sign Haula later instead
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26 déc. 2020 à 16 h 41
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I'm biased but I think they should've signed Conor Sheary as well. Small guy but was ranked as a top 10 forechecker based on his rate of forcing turnovers and retreiving pucks. Plus he has really good possession numbers.
26 déc. 2020 à 16 h 50
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Should have signed Chara, R. Miller and Marleau.... the more 40 year old's the better.
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26 déc. 2020 à 16 h 56
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Every Habs fan is happy that Simmonds said no. Probably wouldn't have had space for Tyler Toffoli
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26 déc. 2020 à 16 h 59
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Leafs made right move with Simmonds....he is going to do really well playing back in his home town.
26 déc. 2020 à 16 h 59
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Leafs made right move with Simmonds....he is going to do really well playing back in his home town.


Is the year 2010?
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26 déc. 2020 à 17 h 1
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Every Habs fan is happy that Simmonds said no. Probably wouldn't have had space for Tyler Toffoli


Taffoli is done.......stats were inflated with Canucks because he played with Petterrson.......another Hab's sighing by Bergevin which is going to backfire.
26 déc. 2020 à 17 h 2
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Taffoli is done.......stats were inflated with Canucks because he played with Petterrson.......another Hab's sighing by Bergevin which is going to backfire.


Jason Allison, Eric Lindros,etc
26 déc. 2020 à 17 h 6
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Jason Allison, Eric Lindros,etc


Yes....Toffoli will be exactly like those two players.
26 déc. 2020 à 17 h 23
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The same could be said for Leivo (assuming he becomes healthy but even if he isnt it's worth it), Kahun, Sheary, Cousins, Johan Larsson or even waiting to see what Duclair would get. Obviously we didnt know all about those guys at the time but Simmonds is on a bad contract. Easily the worst on the leafs.

Its possible that Simmonds is fine but there were so many better players who were available for less
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26 déc. 2020 à 17 h 25
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Quoting: Jack_
The same could be said for Leivo (assuming he becomes healthy but even if he isnt it's worth it), Kahun, Sheary, Cousins, Johan Larsson or even waiting to see what Duclair would get. Obviously we didnt know all about those guys at the time but Simmonds is on a bad contract. Easily the worst on the leafs.

Its possible that Simmonds is fine but there were so many better players who were available for less


Ikr all the people defending him r stuck in like 2015
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26 déc. 2020 à 17 h 30
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Quoting: Jack_
The same could be said for Leivo (assuming he becomes healthy but even if he isnt it's worth it), Kahun, Sheary, Cousins, Johan Larsson or even waiting to see what Duclair would get. Obviously we didnt know all about those guys at the time but Simmonds is on a bad contract. Easily the worst on the leafs.

Its possible that Simmonds is fine but there were so many better players who were available for less


I agree could you imagine a Kahun-Kerfoot-Sheary Line? They’d generate so much possession! But honestly isn’t the Leafs’ worst contract Marner?
26 déc. 2020 à 17 h 37
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Ikr all the people defending him r stuck in like 2015


I think he is fine as a 3rd or 4th line player......brings size and toughness into line-up with some goal scoring ability.......not sure why you are righting him off.
26 déc. 2020 à 17 h 40
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I agree could you imagine a Kahun-Kerfoot-Sheary Line? They’d generate so much possession! But honestly isn’t the Leafs’ worst contract Marner?


Can not image the Leafs having any interest in putting these 3 guys together on a line...........Never hear the Leafs complaining about Marner's contract.....make's you wonder?
26 déc. 2020 à 17 h 47
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Can not image the Leafs having any interest in putting these 3 guys together on a line...........Never hear the Leafs complaining about Marner's contract.....make's you wonder?


I mean, based on market value, Marner should’ve been payed somewhere between Aho & Rantanen. So maybe 5 years 9 Million.
26 déc. 2020 à 17 h 48
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Yea, I would probably prefer Haula over Simmons. But he was a UFA, and there isn't much space for him with the Leafs at centre or LW. Nashville and probably other team were a better fit for Haula to showcase his talent for his next contract.
26 déc. 2020 à 19 h 59
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Leafs wanted a tough local guy and they got one. Haula would have just been another forward in our group. Simmonds I feel will be a real benefit for the leafs and should someone go after one of the big 4 or Rielly they better be ready to drop the gloves lul.
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26 déc. 2020 à 20 h 44
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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
I agree could you imagine a Kahun-Kerfoot-Sheary Line? They’d generate so much possession! But honestly isn’t the Leafs’ worst contract Marner?


Marner is probably overpaid by 1 million but honestly it's not really that bad. People are mostly upset because of how the negotiations went through. Compared to market value hes probably overpaid but comparing him to Kuch and Stone is unfair when they're both in states with no taxes.

Besides some pp points Simmonds doesnt do much (besides his physicality). He wont be getting many pp minutes unless theres major injuries so at 5v5 he hasn't been good for a while. If he isnt healthy like he says he is and is just as bad he should be a healthy scratch
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26 déc. 2020 à 23 h 11
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Marner is probably overpaid by 1 million but honestly it's not really that bad. People are mostly upset because of how the negotiations went through. Compared to market value hes probably overpaid but comparing him to Kuch and Stone is unfair when they're both in states with no taxes.

Besides some pp points Simmonds doesnt do much (besides his physicality). He wont be getting many pp minutes unless theres major injuries so at 5v5 he hasn't been good for a while. If he isnt healthy like he says he is and is just as bad he should be a healthy scratch


Finally an objective comment about Marner's contract.........just glad he is locked up long-term for the Leafs as such a fun player to watch.
26 déc. 2020 à 23 h 56
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Is the year 2010?


He was plagued with injuries for a couple of years and is healthy now. He won't be a huge producer but he'll be a good depth guy. Good signing for the cost.
26 déc. 2020 à 23 h 58
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Every Habs fan is happy that Simmonds said no. Probably wouldn't have had space for Tyler Toffoli


Toffoli is going to be an elite middle 6 winger who scores at about 30-40 point pace. Simmonds will be a good depth guy who scores at a 20-30 point pace on a team that scores more in general.
26 déc. 2020 à 23 h 58
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If they wanted Haula, there would've been noise about it.
27 déc. 2020 à 15 h 41
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Marner is probably overpaid by 1 million but honestly it's not really that bad. People are mostly upset because of how the negotiations went through. Compared to market value hes probably overpaid but comparing him to Kuch and Stone is unfair when they're both in states with no taxes.

Besides some pp points Simmonds doesnt do much (besides his physicality). He wont be getting many pp minutes unless theres major injuries so at 5v5 he hasn't been good for a while. If he isnt healthy like he says he is and is just as bad he should be a healthy scratch


That's fair. I felt Marner should've been paid a similar amount to Colorado's Rantanen.

What is your opinion on the Bogosian signing? Think they should've gone after Koekkoek instead?
27 déc. 2020 à 19 h 36
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That's fair. I felt Marner should've been paid a similar amount to Colorado's Rantanen.

What is your opinion on the Bogosian signing? Think they should've gone after Koekkoek instead?


At least Bogo can go on the taxi squad with overage cost. He seems like a good guy, I think they will probably use him to help share some time with dermott to try and ease him into the top four. Hes not better then Holl, Dermott or Lehtonen but I think hes a fine safety net for them (not really holl but the other guys). I like koekkoek but neither would get much ice time so at least Bogo has those off ice things the leafs seem to want. Koekkeok wouldnt really get any time at all being behind Dermott, Lehtonen and sandin
28 déc. 2020 à 11 h 15
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And now Montreal misses out on overpaying Simmonds to sign Perry to a fantastic deal.
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28 déc. 2020 à 11 h 18
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And now Montreal misses out on overpaying Simmonds to sign Perry to a fantastic deal.


Perry>Simmonds and Perry's contract < Simmonds contract. But hey, we got grit!!!
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