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What a Sad and Terrible Day for Offer Sheeters Across Canada and the Northeast

Créé par: Hockyluv21
Équipe: 2020-21 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 24 déc. 2020
Publié: 24 déc. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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With the loss of the Cirelli angle to the capocalypse, now these folks can finally resort to figuring out if Tampa trades Coburn or waives him to the taxi squad. We Canes fans can only celebrate for a short time, however, because, whenever they figure that out, they can then cope with the loss by sending us Liljegren, Kerfoot, and a 2nd for Pesce proposals for the next year. Because clearly, we gave up too little for Bracco and Jarvis and we can settle for a little less for Pesce.

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24 déc. 2020 à 14 h 22
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Not close for Pesce. Replace lily with Sandin for the very least
24 déc. 2020 à 14 h 23
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Not close for Pesce. Replace lily with Sandin for the very least


Uhh...\sarc
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24 déc. 2020 à 14 h 27
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I'll keep those assets and run with holl for half the price, actually
24 déc. 2020 à 14 h 35
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If the Leafs are gonna acquire Pesce this year, then Car would have to take 2 NHL D-Man back cuz of, the amount of NHL caliber defensemen Toronto has. If you add Dermott and take out the 2021 2nd then, TOR will say yes!
24 déc. 2020 à 14 h 36
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Quoting: Bdawwwgy1
Not close for Pesce. Replace lily with Sandin for the very least


You should make a habit of reading the description. He made it VERY CLEAR it was sarcastic.
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24 déc. 2020 à 14 h 40
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You should make a habit of reading the description. He made it VERY CLEAR it was sarcastic.


It truly is my favorite time of the year to see the "take my junk for your gem" deals on the message boards right around deadline time. It's always a load of fun.
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24 déc. 2020 à 14 h 43
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You should make a habit of reading the description. He made it VERY CLEAR it was sarcastic.


Well screw me. But I still just don't get the sarcastic postss
24 déc. 2020 à 14 h 43
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
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I'll keep those assets and run with holl for half the price, actually


Pesce was really good from 2016-2019 but I think the Leafs will be fine with Holl as the 4D. Plus they kept Dermott, maybe they are confident of him breaking out in the top 4!
24 déc. 2020 à 14 h 45
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Quoting: Bdawwwgy1
Well screw me. But I still just don't get the sarcastic postss


Well, it was satire based on what the capocalypse truthers are going to do next. The Cirelli/Sergachev/Barzal offer sheet conspiracies were, as it turned out, epic fails. My prediction is that they will eventually go back to dreaming about Pesce-for-nothing deals again to get their blood flowing for the year.
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24 déc. 2020 à 14 h 48
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"ugh, Leafs fans make so many dumb posts, so many"

/makes dumb post about the leafs
24 déc. 2020 à 14 h 48
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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
Pesce was really good from 2016-2019 but I think the Leafs will be fine with Holl as the 4D. Plus they kept Dermott, maybe they are confident of him breaking out in the top 4!


Pesce was the usual Pesce this year. He was mainly bogged down by unusually high amount of D-zone starts, even by his standards, as well as a lack of a consistent partner (Justin Faulk is incredibly underrated by many who just look at rote analytics). That should change this year with Skjei.
24 déc. 2020 à 14 h 52
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Pesce was the usual Pesce this year. He was mainly bogged down by unusually high amount of D-zone starts, even by his standards, as well as a lack of a consistent partner (Justin Faulk is incredibly underrated by many who just look at rote analytics). That should change this year with Skjei.


Yes I agree, Pesce is a very good player. I heard his results suffered because he was paired with Edmundson who was a black hole.
24 déc. 2020 à 14 h 52
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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
Pesce was really good from 2016-2019 but I think the Leafs will be fine with Holl as the 4D. Plus they kept Dermott, maybe they are confident of him breaking out in the top 4!


No one is keeping Holl over Pesce LOL
24 déc. 2020 à 14 h 52
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Quoting: Bdawwwgy1
Well screw me. But I still just don't get the sarcastic postss


It's all good. I've done stuff like that every once in a while too.
24 déc. 2020 à 14 h 52
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
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I'll keep those assets and run with holl for half the price, actually


No one is keeping Holl over Pesce LOL
24 déc. 2020 à 14 h 53
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
"ugh, Leafs fans make so many dumb posts, so many"

/makes dumb post about the leafs


The flood of dumb posts by Leaf fans are usually not satire. This is explicitly satire. I will note that every team has their share. Unfortunately, the hockey community is so massive in Toronto that there statistically is going to be more fans that are lower on the intelligence quotient than others.
24 déc. 2020 à 14 h 55
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Quoting: TheLeafsSeason
No one is keeping Holl over Pesce LOL


Well for sure, Pesce is an elite shutdown D by his usual standards. Just unfortunate the Leafs can’t afford him.
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24 déc. 2020 à 14 h 56
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Yes I agree, Pesce is a very good player. I heard his results suffered because he was paired with Edmundson who was a black hole.


I disagree with the folks that say that Eddy was a black hole. He had a similar situation here where Brindy explicitly only played him in the D-zone. He was IMO, a very good 3rd-pairing guy that was way over his head playing Pesce-level usage. His results were much better this postseason, when Brindy started getting more comfortable with giving Fleury less-sheltered minutes.
24 déc. 2020 à 14 h 58
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Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
Pesce was really good from 2016-2019 but I think the Leafs will be fine with Holl as the 4D. Plus they kept Dermott, maybe they are confident of him breaking out in the top 4!


Quoting: TheLeafsSeason
No one is keeping Holl over Pesce LOL


Quoting: Penguins_Legend_Sheary
Yes I agree, Pesce is a very good player. I heard his results suffered because he was paired with Edmundson who was a black hole.


pesce is really good, arguably a #2 D. better than holl ofc, but for the leafs, we have a great 123 of rielly, muzzin and now brodie. add in guys like sandin, dermott, holl, and lehtonen who are all viable #4 guys.

trading a 3C/2LW, our best NHL-ready RD prospect and a 2nd rounder for a #2 D to fill a #4D hole didn't make much sense

despite the hate he gets, justin holl was VERY good for the leafs last year, it might be a blip/fluke and he might be terrible, but if he plays anything like he did last year then we have a solid shutdown RD who can log 21+ mins a night for $2M AAV.
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24 déc. 2020 à 15 h 0
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
pesce is really good, arguably a #2 D. better than holl ofc, but for the leafs, we have a great 123 of rielly, muzzin and now brodie. add in guys like sandin, dermott, holl, and lehtonen who are all viable #4 guys.

trading a 3C/2LW, our best NHL-ready RD prospect and a 2nd rounder for a #2 D to fill a #4D hole didn't make much sense

despite the hate he gets, justin holl was VERY good for the leafs last year, it might be a blip/fluke and he might be terrible, but if he plays anything like he did last year then we have a solid shutdown RD who can log 21+ mins a night for $2M AAV.


Sandin, Dermott, Holl, and Lehtonen are not top 4 defensemen, especially for a contending team such as the Bruins, Lightning, Avs, Knights and other top tier teams. We call those players "top 4" defensemen since we do not have the cap space to afford one. We try to justify and act as if they are better than what they are, but in reality, they're not.
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24 déc. 2020 à 15 h 2
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Quoting: TheLeafsSeason
Sandin, Dermott, Holl, and Lehtonen are not top 4 defensemen, especially for a contending team such as the Bruins, Lightning, Avs, Knights and other top tier teams. We call those players "top 4" defensemen since we do not have the cap space to afford one. We try to justify and act as if they are better than what they are, but in reality, they're not.


right because 23 year old dermott, 20 year old sandin, and 21 year old liljegren will never improve

also holl literally was a successful top 4 D for us, so until he proves otherwise, he simply is lol. lehtonen is a wildcard but everyone seems to think he's too good to not be at least a #4, but that's a mystery, he might adjust terrible to NHL ice
24 déc. 2020 à 15 h 3
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Quoting: Hockyluv21
The flood of dumb posts by Leaf fans are usually not satire. This is explicitly satire. I will note that every team has their share. Unfortunately, the hockey community is so massive in Toronto that there statistically is going to be more fans that are lower on the intelligence quotient than others.


this isnt satire, this is whining.
24 déc. 2020 à 15 h 4
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
right because 23 year old dermott, 20 year old sandin, and 21 year old liljegren will never improve


A 23 year old Dermott still has a lot to prove, but as of right now, he is not a top 4 defensemen. I have no doubt that he won't grow when he is selected by Seattle

A 20 year old Sandin still has more to show, and especially for his age, he is not ready

Liljegren is practically a bust
24 déc. 2020 à 15 h 4
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right because 23 year old dermott, 20 year old sandin, and 21 year old liljegren will never improve

also holl literally was a successful top 4 D for us, so until he proves otherwise, he simply is lol. lehtonen is a wildcard but everyone seems to think he's too good to not be at least a #4, but that's a mystery, he might adjust terrible to NHL ice


Zach Bogosian is though, cuz he won a cup! Leadergritsuperman!
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Quoting: TheLeafsSeason
Sandin, Dermott, Holl, and Lehtonen are not top 4 defensemen, especially for a contending team such as the Bruins, Lightning, Avs, Knights and other top tier teams. We call those players "top 4" defensemen since we do not have the cap space to afford one. We try to justify and act as if they are better than what they are, but in reality, they're not.


Sandin could potentially be a "top 4" guy, but isn't so yet. Same with Dermott. We'll see with Lehtonen. The only legitimate top-4 guys that Toronto truly has are Reilly, Brodie, and Muzzin. Carolina suffered a similar issue for half of last season without Faulk. Eddy was over his head playing with Pesce, Fleury didn't really step up his game until around January, and Skjei wasn't acquired until February. Gardiner's a good player, contrary to CW, but is ideally sheltered a bit at even-strength.
 
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