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Créé par: Cowling
Publié: 23 déc. 2020 à 15 h 23
Plafond salarial: 81 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 115/116 (99%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Coyotes de l'ArizonaCoyotes de l'Arizona

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Stepan, DerekCoyotes de l'ArizonaLNH-6 443 965 $111---0000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (Logo de Coyotes de l'ArizonaARI)---100------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Anisimov, ArtemSénateurs d'OttawaLNH50%2 255 388 $111---0000--
Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaOTT)---010------
Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaOTT)---001------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial0 $2344683512
Variation4 188 577 $000-111
Final4 188 577 $ (↑)2344682 (↓)6 (↑)13 (↑)000

Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaSénateurs d'Ottawa

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Anisimov, ArtemSénateurs d'OttawaLNH50%2 255 388 $111---0000--
Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaOTT)---010------
Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaOTT)---001------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Stepan, DerekCoyotes de l'ArizonaLNH-6 443 965 $111---0000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (Logo de Coyotes de l'ArizonaARI)---100------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial12 502 501 $2244703810
Variation-4 188 577 $0001-1-1
Final8 313 924 $ (↓)2244704 (↑)7 (↓)9 (↓)000
23 déc. 2020 à 15 h 30
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Not unreasonable. We'll have to wait on some FA signings to see if Ott does anything but if they don't this is in the realm.
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I don't think that's close to what's being discussed, but if it were, I'd take it.
27 déc. 2020 à 0 h 10
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I don't think that's close to what's being discussed, but if it were, I'd take it.


The actual trade is so much worse for you guys. A 4th maybe, but a 2nd and you saved their cap issue, yikes.
27 déc. 2020 à 0 h 44
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The actual trade is so much worse for you guys. A 4th maybe, but a 2nd and you saved their cap issue, yikes.


I’m really confused, unless there’s a Tierney for a good D trade in the works.
27 déc. 2020 à 1 h 1
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I’m really confused, unless there’s a Tierney for a good D trade in the works.


Veterans - Tkachuk, Dadonov, White, Tierney, CBrown, Paul, Galchenyuk, Anisimov, Stepan, Watson

Prospects- Stuetzle, LBrown, Batherson, Balcers, Norris, Chlapik, Formenton, Abramov

Taxi Squad - Shaw, Peca, Haley, Beaudin
27 déc. 2020 à 1 h 26
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Veterans - Tkachuk, Dadonov, White, Tierney, CBrown, Paul, Galchenyuk, Anisimov, Stepan, Watson

Prospects- Stuetzle, LBrown, Batherson, Balcers, Norris, Chlapik, Formenton, Abramov

Taxi Squad - Shaw, Peca, Haley, Beaudin


We got Nate Schmidt for a 3rd and we needed him because they needed to dump cap.

This player is worse, needed less and the team is closer to the season starting with cap troubles. How did they get more?
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27 déc. 2020 à 2 h 1
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We got Nate Schmidt for a 3rd and we needed him because they needed to dump cap.

This player is worse, needed less and the team is closer to the season starting with cap troubles. How did they get more?


I’m starting to wrap my head around it, but it’s still a reach in good asset management.

So here’s my take, first possibility is there’s another trade in the immediate future, but I’ll assume there isn’t.

Stepan is a right shot version of Tierney, and pushes White to the Wing.

Arizona has been bad, and maybe Stepan has been dragged down with them, maybe he’s contributed to the bad play, but he’s not far removed from solid top6 numbers, but I’m not going to fool myself and think that he returns to those numbers.

Maybe Stepan can be at least a 0.50 to 0.60 point per game centre with two of these wingers, Tkachuk, Dadonov, CBrown, White. If they go with a checking line of Brown, Tierney, White, then Stepan gets Tkachuk and Dadonov. Stepan’s goal per 60 have been pretty steady the last 6 seasons, it’s his assists that have declined.

Stepan’s numbers go up, Tierney’s numbers go down, maybe.

Tkachuk, Stepan, Dadonov
CBrown, Tierney, White
Balcers, LBrown, Batherson
Paul, Anisimov, Galchenyuk

I think that Dorion thinks Stepan can be another Tierney.
27 déc. 2020 à 2 h 52
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I’m starting to wrap my head around it, but it’s still a reach in good asset management.

So here’s my take, first possibility is there’s another trade in the immediate future, but I’ll assume there isn’t.

Stepan is a right shot version of Tierney, and pushes White to the Wing.

Arizona has been bad, and maybe Stepan has been dragged down with them, maybe he’s contributed to the bad play, but he’s not far removed from solid top6 numbers, but I’m not going to fool myself and think that he returns to those numbers.

Maybe Stepan can be at least a 0.50 to 0.60 point per game centre with two of these wingers, Tkachuk, Dadonov, CBrown, White. If they go with a checking line of Brown, Tierney, White, then Stepan gets Tkachuk and Dadonov. Stepan’s goal per 60 have been pretty steady the last 6 seasons, it’s his assists that have declined.

Stepan’s numbers go up, Tierney’s numbers go down, maybe.

Tkachuk, Stepan, Dadonov
CBrown, Tierney, White
Balcers, LBrown, Batherson
Paul, Anisimov, Galchenyuk

I think that Dorion thinks Stepan can be another Tierney.


Even if all that is correct, none of this has to do with Ott knowing Arizona needs to move cap and for some reason rewarding them with the full value of the player.
(this only being the full value of the player if he is the guy Dorion thinks he is. It's an overpay otherwise)
27 déc. 2020 à 2 h 56
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Even if all that is correct, none of this has to do with Ott knowing Arizona needs to move cap and for some reason rewarding them with the full value of the player.
(this only being the full value of the player if he is the guy Dorion thinks he is. It's an overpay otherwise)


Arizona didn’t need to move cap, they can place Hossa on LTIR, they were fine.
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27 déc. 2020 à 3 h 7
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Arizona didn’t need to move cap, they can place Hossa on LTIR, they were fine.


Correct, my bad. Then I get your plausibility from Dorions side, I just don't think it's right. Which is I guess your spot too.
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27 déc. 2020 à 22 h 51
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Arizona didn’t need to move cap, they can place Hossa on LTIR, they were fine.


If Dorion has one more move to rid himself of some bodies this could turn out super well for you guys.

Good deal for Tampa too though.
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|The Stepan trade following on the Paquette pickup spells the end of Logan Brown in Ottawa. Dorion obviously has no confidence in Logan to push him so far down the depth chart.. I like a lot of what Dorion has done but Stepan and Gudbrandson are headscratchers and the overpay on Murray is worrying.
 
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