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Ideal Situation Cozens Tage Mitts Arttu Make the Team

Créé par: BuFfaLOFaN
Date de création initiale: déc 21, 2020
Publié: 21 déc 2020 à 10 h 01
Équipe: 2020-21 Sabres de Buffalo
Explications
Trade might be a bit unrealistic, add subtract picks change the team etc. main point is trade for a backup with 1 year and a solid LD using the assets that we can trade Miller/bottom 6 forward with top9/6 potential picks and Hutton as a sweatener🤣
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Mittelstadt, Casey1800 000 $
Transactions
BUF
  1. McNabb, Brayden
  2. Fleury, Marc-André (2 000 000 $ retained)
VGK
  1. Miller, Colin
  2. Mittelstadt, Casey
  3. Hutton, Carter
  4. 2022 3e round pick (BUF)
Rachats de contrats
  • Cody Hodgson: 791 667 $
  • Christian Ehrhoff: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Eric Staal: 1 625 000 $ (50%)
  • Taylor Hall: 4 000 000 $ (50%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2021
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
2022
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
2023
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $80 698 334 $1 487 500 $4 337 500 $801 666 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
BUF
Hall, Taylor
4 000 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 1
BUF
Eichel, Jack
10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 6
BUF
Cozens, Dylan
894 167 $
C, AG
RFA - 3
BUF
Skinner, Jeff
9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
BUF
Staal, Eric
1 625 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 1
BUF
Reinhart, Sam
5 200 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
BUF
Olofsson, Victor
3 050 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
BUF
Ruotsalainen, Arttu
925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
BUF
Thompson, Tage
1 400 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
BUF
Girgensons, Zemgus
2 200 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
BUF
Eakin, Cody
2 250 000 $
C
UFA - 2
BUF
Rieder, Tobias
700 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
BUF
Dahlin, Rasmus
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
BUF
Ristolainen, Rasmus
5 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
BUF
Ullmark, Linus
2 600 000 $
G
UFA - 1
BUF
McCabe, Jake
2 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
BUF
Jokiharju, Henri
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
VGK
Fleury, Marc-André
5 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 2
VGK
McNabb, Brayden
2 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
BUF
Montour, Brandon
3 850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
BUF
Okposo, Kyle
6 000 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 3
BUF
Lazar, Curtis
800 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
BUF
Irwin, Matt
700 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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21 déc 2020 à 10 h 02
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21 déc 2020 à 10 h 06
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I believe there were reports that Vegas couldn't move Fleury WITH a good pick attached WITH 50% retainage. I think they would jump at this in a heartbeat.

I do not think Okposo will be scratched. His contract has turned into a mess, but as a player he has become a very good bottom 6 player.
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21 déc 2020 à 10 h 09
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I believe there were reports that Vegas couldn't move Fleury WITH a good pick attached WITH 50% retainage. I think they would jump at this in a heartbeat.

I do not think Okposo will be scratched. His contract has turned into a mess, but as a player he has become a very good bottom 6 player.


I agree but is he better for this team than any of these? I mean I take those on the 4th because they are better PK players, and Third line is young guys who have more potential and he can't compete for top 6. I say he might switch on and off. Maybe replace him with Reider
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21 déc 2020 à 10 h 10
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I agree but is he better for this team than any of these? I mean I take those on the 4th because they are better PK players, and Third line is young guys who have more potential and he can't compete for top 6. I say he might switch on and off. Maybe replace him with Reider


have you met our coach? he will play reider over ruotsalainen, cozens and thompson, not okposo.
21 déc 2020 à 10 h 12
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
have you met our coach? he will play reider over ruotsalainen, cozens and thompson, not okposo.


Yea, I bet Routsalainen takes the hit...but I'd rather him.
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21 déc 2020 à 11 h 05
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I’m pretty sure VGK says no, mainly because they get no cap savings.

3.85+2.75+800k (Mitts????)+2 retention = 9.4million in for Vegas

5 left plus 2.5 =7. 5 out for Vegas

Even if you remove Mitts for AHL/Taxi they still retain More.
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21 déc 2020 à 11 h 15
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I think theirs a much higher % chance we see Cozens at center than Ruotsalainen, especially after drafting Quinn. If Cozens is their future 2c it'll be infinitely better to start him at 3C than 1RW
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21 déc 2020 à 11 h 18
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
I agree but is he better for this team than any of these? I mean I take those on the 4th because they are better PK players, and Third line is young guys who have more potential and he can't compete for top 6. I say he might switch on and off. Maybe replace him with Reider


Can Taxi Squad Okposo
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21 déc 2020 à 11 h 23
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Can Taxi Squad Okposo

That’s not how taxi squad works. Anything over like 1M counts against the cap just like sending Okposo to the AHL.
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21 déc 2020 à 11 h 25
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Quoting: BStinson
That’s not how taxi squad works. Anything over like 1M counts against the cap just like sending Okposo to the AHL.


I didnt say he would be free. I dont think any of us were discussing cap hit
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21 déc 2020 à 11 h 32
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Quoting: Shibbal18
I didnt say he would be free. I dont think any of us were discussing cap hit

That makes sense then, sorry most posters on this site assume taxi squad is just free cap space.
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21 déc 2020 à 11 h 45
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Quoting: Shibbal18
I think theirs a much higher % chance we see Cozens at center than Ruotsalainen, especially after drafting Quinn. If Cozens is their future 2c it'll be infinitely better to start him at 3C than 1RW


Switch with Thompson?
21 déc 2020 à 11 h 46
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Quoting: Vegasloveforthebills
I’m pretty sure VGK says no, mainly because they get no cap savings.

3.85+2.75+800k (Mitts????)+2 retention = 9.4million in for Vegas

5 left plus 2.5 =7. 5 out for Vegas

Even if you remove Mitts for AHL/Taxi they still retain More.


They could flip Miller might do it if that happens🤷🏼‍♂️
21 déc 2020 à 11 h 50
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
Switch with Thompson?


Id put Thompson with Staal and Skinner, then Ruotsalainen - Cozens - Olofsson
21 déc 2020 à 11 h 51
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Id put Thompson with Staal and Skinner, then Ruotsalainen - Cozens - Olofsson


Problem is that is such a young 3rd line, 2 first year players and a 2nd year player. I'd be frightened by that.
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Problem is that is such a young 3rd line, 2 first year players and a 2nd year player. I'd be frightened by that.


If they cant handle a 3rd line theyll disappear in the top 6, so thats not something id concern myself with.
21 déc 2020 à 12 h 30
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
They could flip Miller might do it if that happens🤷🏼‍♂️

They could, but 2 trades could be tough to get done.

I actually believe you are close. I’ve actually thought
Miller and Hutton for Fluery with no retention and a mid round pick

The money this year is super close in that deal and then next year it’s like roughly $3 million which is why Buffalo would get a mid round pick back for that.
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21 déc 2020 à 12 h 51
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Quoting: Vegasloveforthebills
They could, but 2 trades could be tough to get done.

I actually believe you are close. I’ve actually thought
Miller and Hutton for Fluery with no retention and a mid round pick

The money this year is super close in that deal and then next year it’s like roughly $3 million which is why Buffalo would get a mid round pick back for that.


We could probably do 3rd and 1m retention
23 déc 2020 à 9 h 34
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First of all thanks for the shout out.

Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
Yea, I bet Routsalainen takes the hit...but I'd rather him.
I agree, Rieder had a great playoff and tied a record which I am sure got a lot of attention.
Ruotsalainen can KP and has a higher offensive cap than Rieder but when a coach puts Sobotka on the second line instead of Sheary or Vesey or Rodrigues, one has to wonder.
Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
Switch with Thompson?
I agree, I think Sam with Casey would work.
But see above as to my feelings about our coach.
Last year it was Victor and Jack with Sam picking up garbage.
The year before it was Jeff and Jack with Sam picking up garbage.
Before that it was Evander and Jack with Sam picking up the garbage.
Give Sam his own line.
Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
Problem is that is such a young 3rd line, 2 first year players and a 2nd year player. I'd be frightened by that.
Very frightening IMHO.
I would also reunite Jeff and Jack.
Taylor can run his own line.
Career.Hall.......Eichel
Gm......627........354
G.........218........137
A..........345.......200
P..........563.......337
%ast.0.613.......0.593
Taylor gets more pts from assists than jack, it is only logical to separate them and not have two playmaker on the same line.
I know we hear Taylor wants to play with Jack, is that on the same team or same line.
Taylor away from jack will give the him a chance to play against less defensive minded opposition.

Finally, you may have read this comment before, Casey played fourth line minutes with third line wingers and generated third line production.
Jeff - Jack-Tage
Taylor-Eric-Dylan
Arttu-Casey-Sam
Zemgus-Curtis-Kyle
Tage picks up the garbage
Taylor drives his own line.
Sam gets a chance to prove he is a $6,000,000 player
Who ever you want on the fourth line.
We can differ who is playing where but to even consider having two of the top line players now on the third line demonstrates how much more depth this team has.
I can only imagine there are very few teams that would have the talent to put two players who scored 20 goals the previous year on the third line.
Only 86 forwards were able to score 20 or more goals last year and now this line up has two of them on the third line.
23 déc 2020 à 12 h 35
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
First of all thanks for the shout out.

I agree, Rieder had a great playoff and tied a record which I am sure got a lot of attention.
Ruotsalainen can KP and has a higher offensive cap than Rieder but when a coach puts Sobotka on the second line instead of Sheary or Vesey or Rodrigues, one has to wonder.
I agree, I think Sam with Casey would work.
But see above as to my feelings about our coach.
Last year it was Victor and Jack with Sam picking up garbage.
The year before it was Jeff and Jack with Sam picking up garbage.
Before that it was Evander and Jack with Sam picking up the garbage.
Give Sam his own line.
Very frightening IMHO.
I would also reunite Jeff and Jack.
Taylor can run his own line.
Career.Hall.......Eichel
Gm......627........354
G.........218........137
A..........345.......200
P..........563.......337
%ast.0.613.......0.593
Taylor gets more pts from assists than jack, it is only logical to separate them and not have two playmaker on the same line.
I know we hear Taylor wants to play with Jack, is that on the same team or same line.
Taylor away from jack will give the him a chance to play against less defensive minded opposition.

Finally, you may have read this comment before, Casey played fourth line minutes with third line wingers and generated third line production.
Jeff - Jack-Tage
Taylor-Eric-Dylan
Arttu-Casey-Sam
Zemgus-Curtis-Kyle
Tage picks up the garbage
Taylor drives his own line.
Sam gets a chance to prove he is a $6,000,000 player
Who ever you want on the fourth line.
We can differ who is playing where but to even consider having two of the top line players now on the third line demonstrates how much more depth this team has.
I can only imagine there are very few teams that would have the talent to put two players who scored 20 goals the previous year on the third line.
Only 86 forwards were able to score 20 or more goals last year and now this line up has two of them on the third line.


I like the lines you put together and agree with almost everything except that I would put Hall and Eichel together and Jeff and Staal. I think that although Hall and Eichel will get the top D pair and TopD players on the other team but those 2 are elite passers but thats only because neither of them have ever had elite passers to play with, I believe that Eichel has the best release on his snap/wrister in the league and his slap shot is elite as well. Jeff and Staal are also good together and Cozens would be able to grow with those 2 I believe. I think depends on what Cozens does but he could drive that line and I wouldn't be surprised. 3rd line has the ability to play ad the second line which could help if Skinner or Cozens where having a down night you give them 3rd line minutes and Reinhart and Ollofson second line minutes. I also don't mind Ollofson on the 3rd because of the PP time he will get.
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