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Division predictions

Créé par: Dpellz90
Date de création initiale: déc 12, 2020
Publié: 20 déc 2020 à 20 h 14
Équipe: 2020-21 Équipe du client
Explications
The Canadian division is by far the trickiest division to predict. 2-6 is wide open.
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
3184 500 000 $273 122 962 $0 $0 $-188 622 962 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
COL
Rantanen, Mikko
9 250 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 4
TBL
Kucherov, Nikita
9 500 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 7
VGK
Stone, Mark
9 500 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 7
CGY
Tkachuk, Matthew
7 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
CAR
Aho, Sebastian
8 460 250 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
STL
O'Reilly, Ryan
7 500 000 $
C
UFA - 3
MTL
Weber, Shea
7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 6
NSH
Josi, Roman
9 059 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 8
MIN
Spurgeon, Jared
7 575 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 7
VAN
Edler, Alexander
6 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
DAL
Seguin, Tyler
9 850 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
ARI
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
8 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
EDM
McDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 6
CBJ
Atkinson, Cam
5 875 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 5
ANA
Getzlaf, Ryan
8 250 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
WPG
Wheeler, Blake
8 250 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 4
FLA
Ekblad, Aaron
7 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
LAK
Doughty, Drew
11 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 7
OTT
Chabot, Thomas
8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 8
CHI
Kane, Patrick
10 500 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 3
SJS
Karlsson, Erik
11 500 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 7
DET
Larkin, Dylan
6 100 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
WSH
Ovechkin, Alex
9 538 462 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
PHI
Giroux, Claude
8 275 000 $
AG, C, AD
NMC
UFA - 2
BOS
Krejci, David
7 250 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 1
NYI
Lee, Anders
7 000 000 $
AG, C
NTC
UFA - 6
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
BUF
Eichel, Jack
10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 6
NJD
Subban, P.K.
9 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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20 déc 2020 à 21 h 41
#26
Rejoint: aoû 2020
Messages: 332
Mentions "j'aime": 169
Quoting: TheFlamingC
As a Flames fan, Leon Draisaitl is so much better than Auston Matthews that it is legitimately embarrassing that you can call yourself a hockey fan after saying that. The Oilers have Yamamoto and Kahun and that's something. Brodie will be a travesty in Toronto, we've seen this movie twice before. Oilers fans really think Kyle Turris will put them over the top lmao. You're right on that one. Also correct on the last part


Pls explain to me how Drai is “tremendously” better than Matthews ?? U have to be a casual fan, only looking at one side of the puck. Leon is by far one of the worst defensive players in the league. But still, I look forward to hearing you arguments
20 déc 2020 à 21 h 42
#27
Rejoint: aoû 2020
Messages: 332
Mentions "j'aime": 169
Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
No he isn't lol, Matthews accomplished more at a younger age and has done it without McDavid boosting his stats and in less playing time. Also Draisaitl is a bad player defensively while Matthews is a terrific 2 way player. It's not close.


Exactly lol, some ppl look at how many points a player gets and disregard any other stats lmao
20 déc 2020 à 21 h 43
#28
Isles7
Rejoint: jun 2019
Messages: 10,426
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
I think the oilers win it tbh


If they give Caleb jones an increased role and play Evan Bouchard, I think its possible the oilers can win the division.
20 déc 2020 à 21 h 45
#29
Isles7
Rejoint: jun 2019
Messages: 10,426
Mentions "j'aime": 4,364
Quoting: Oodz
Pls explain to me how Drai is “tremendously” better than Matthews ?? U have to be a casual fan, only looking at one side of the puck. Leon is by far one of the worst defensive players in the league. But still, I look forward to hearing you arguments


Draisatl isn't better that Matthews, but its close. He was awful defensively when he played with mcdavid, but the 2nd half of last season he was average defensively when he centered his own line
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20 déc 2020 à 21 h 46
#30
Rejoint: jun 2019
Messages: 14,571
Mentions "j'aime": 6,844
Quoting: Oodz
Pls explain to me how Drai is “tremendously” better than Matthews ?? U have to be a casual fan, only looking at one side of the puck. Leon is by far one of the worst defensive players in the league. But still, I look forward to hearing you arguments


I wouldnt say tremendously better but as another Flames fan I do agree with @TheFlamingC that Draisaitl is the better player. However its a pointless argument since we are talking about top 10 centers in the league
20 déc 2020 à 21 h 46
#31
Rejoint: aoû 2020
Messages: 332
Mentions "j'aime": 169
Quoting: Isles777
Draisatl isn't better that Matthews, but its close. He was awful defensively when he played with mcdavid, but the 2nd half of last season he was average defensively when he centered his own line


I totally agree lol
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20 déc 2020 à 21 h 51
#32
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 21,672
Mentions "j'aime": 6,811
Quoting: Oodz
Exactly lol, some ppl look at how many points a player gets and disregard any other stats lmao


Well on this site, if a player has a leaf on his chest he's automatically terrible as well. So everyone is better regardless of reality.
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20 déc 2020 à 21 h 56
#33
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 21,672
Mentions "j'aime": 6,811
Quoting: TheFlamingC
I don't think they'll miss the playoffs but they're not close to as safe as everyone thinks. More cause for concern here than in the Atlantic.


Not at all, zero of the Canadian teams were good defensively, so what does the 3rd best offence have to worry about when they very much improved their defence and have a much better coach as well. It's highly unlikely they have as many injuries and judging by Andersen's past he'll be a solid goalie again. There is mountains of evidence to suggest TO is going to have a really big year and saying they will only be average is essentially wanting them to fail and hoping all the outlier stuff happens again.
20 déc 2020 à 21 h 59
#34
Rejoint: avr 2019
Messages: 2,490
Mentions "j'aime": 883
Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Not at all, zero of the Canadian teams were good defensively, so what does the 3rd best offence have to worry about when they very much improved their defence and have a much better coach as well. It's highly unlikely they have as many injuries and judging by Andersen's past he'll be a solid goalie again. There is mountains of evidence to suggest TO is going to have a really big year and saying they will only be average is essentially wanting them to fail and hoping all the outlier stuff happens again.


Umm... Vancouver and Calgary have good defense but yea man
20 déc 2020 à 22 h 05
#35
Rejoint: avr 2019
Messages: 2,490
Mentions "j'aime": 883
Quoting: Oodz
Pls explain to me how Drai is “tremendously” better than Matthews ?? U have to be a casual fan, only looking at one side of the puck. Leon is by far one of the worst defensive players in the league. But still, I look forward to hearing you arguments


I've never met anyone that disagrees with me on this actually. I think Barkov is better than Matthews. Matthews isn't winning any Selke's even if Draisaitl's d is bad. McDavid doesn't play with him anymore 5-on-5 so don't use that argument and the leafs have an equally dangerous PP when healthy. I can't defend his defence but the bottom line is that if you have a 130 point, 50 goal pace, you are better. Upon more thought, it isn't tremendous and I was too harsh but I will never budge on my opinion that's he's better
20 déc 2020 à 22 h 28
#36
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 21,672
Mentions "j'aime": 6,811
Quoting: TheFlamingC
Umm... Vancouver and Calgary have good defense but yea man


Vancouver was not good defensively last season. They got by with fantastic goaltending. Calgary is a good team though, I just never really feel 100% confident in them. Not enough strength down the middle and I think losing Brodie coupled with Gio's age could make for some problems. I do like Tanev though.
20 déc 2020 à 23 h 46
#37
Rejoint: nov 2018
Messages: 4,686
Mentions "j'aime": 1,642
Quoting: Caerii
He is very much well beyond his prime. He was in Calgary, and him signing in Toronto doesn't change that, as much as you want it to.


Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
Being past your prime and being washed up are not the same thing.


I like Brodie but after his collapsing on the ice in 2019 there is no way I would have signed him to play on my top pairing. Toronto is taking a ton of risk with his signing, IMO they should have targeted someone like Hamonic.
21 déc 2020 à 0 h 42
#38
backcheck>paycheck
Rejoint: oct 2020
Messages: 234
Mentions "j'aime": 135
My prediction(not in order, just who makes it):

Toronto
Montreal
Edmonton
Winnipeg

Colorado
St Louis
Vegas
Arizona

Tampa
Carolina
Dallas
Columbus

Islanders
Boston
Pittsburgh
Washington
21 déc 2020 à 0 h 47
#39
Rejoint: jan 2020
Messages: 4,253
Mentions "j'aime": 2,221
Quoting: Campabee
I like Brodie but after his collapsing on the ice in 2019 there is no way I would have signed him to play on my top pairing. Toronto is taking a ton of risk with his signing, IMO they should have targeted someone like Hamonic.


Don't think they're taking that big a risk, tbh. He appears to have made a full recovery after a one time incident and went on to play the remainder of the season quite fantastically, plus playoffs. Also, considering he's a 20 million dollar investment in the middle of a global pandemic where everyone is losing money, I'm sure the organization, which has access to a ton more information than us, did their due diligence regarding that whole situation. And, if by chance they're wrong and this ends up being a recurring thing, I'm pretty sure Brodie would put his health and safety first and step away to be with his family, which, yeah would mean the Leafs would have to explore other avenues like the trade market, but they spent no assets on Brodie and were able to recuperate full value for the pieces they moved out to accommodate him, so they wouldn't really be at a loss.
21 déc 2020 à 1 h 11
#40
Rejoint: nov 2018
Messages: 4,686
Mentions "j'aime": 1,642
Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
Don't think they're taking that big a risk, tbh. He appears to have made a full recovery after a one time incident and went on to play the remainder of the season quite fantastically, plus playoffs. Also, considering he's a 20 million dollar investment in the middle of a global pandemic where everyone is losing money, I'm sure the organization, which has access to a ton more information than us, did their due diligence regarding that whole situation. And, if by chance they're wrong and this ends up being a recurring thing, I'm pretty sure Brodie would put his health and safety first and step away to be with his family, which, yeah would mean the Leafs would have to explore other avenues like the trade market, but they spent no assets on Brodie and were able to recuperate full value for the pieces they moved out to accommodate him, so they wouldn't really be at a loss.


Like I said I like Brodie always thought he was a good player, maybe my own family history with cardiac incidents plays a role here as well but I probably wouldn't have taken that risk. Your risk of a cardiac incident increases significantly with each one. It may not have cost the Leafs any assets other than money but if he does decide not to play and opts out of the season or worse has another episode on ice then the Leafs defense is significantly worse. I wonder though, if a player chooses to opt out does his cap hit still count against the team or is it like LTIR. Cause if Brodie sits out and his cap hit counts that puts the Leafs in even worse position.
21 déc 2020 à 10 h 39
#41
Rejoint: jan 2020
Messages: 4,253
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Quoting: Campabee
Like I said I like Brodie always thought he was a good player, maybe my own family history with cardiac incidents plays a role here as well but I probably wouldn't have taken that risk. Your risk of a cardiac incident increases significantly with each one. It may not have cost the Leafs any assets other than money but if he does decide not to play and opts out of the season or worse has another episode on ice then the Leafs defense is significantly worse. I wonder though, if a player chooses to opt out does his cap hit still count against the team or is it like LTIR. Cause if Brodie sits out and his cap hit counts that puts the Leafs in even worse position.


Not as far as I know. If a player opts out, they don't even get paid their salary and they wouldn't be on your roster, so I can't imagine it would count against the cap.
21 déc 2020 à 12 h 11
#42
User TitleFlair
Rejoint: mar 2019
Messages: 8,466
Mentions "j'aime": 6,212
Quoting: TheFlamingC
Quite possible but I think Mike Smith and Mikko Koskinen are too much adversity to overcome


Lmao that is true
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