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Division predictions

Créé par: Dpellz90
Date de création initiale: déc 12, 2020
Publié: 20 déc 2020 à 20 h 14
Équipe: 2020-21 Équipe du client
Explications
The Canadian division is by far the trickiest division to predict. 2-6 is wide open.
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
3184 500 000 $273 122 962 $0 $0 $-188 622 962 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
COL
Rantanen, Mikko
9 250 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 4
TBL
Kucherov, Nikita
9 500 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 7
VGK
Stone, Mark
9 500 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 7
CGY
Tkachuk, Matthew
7 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
CAR
Aho, Sebastian
8 460 250 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
STL
O'Reilly, Ryan
7 500 000 $
C
UFA - 3
MTL
Weber, Shea
7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 6
NSH
Josi, Roman
9 059 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 8
MIN
Spurgeon, Jared
7 575 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 7
VAN
Edler, Alexander
6 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
DAL
Seguin, Tyler
9 850 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
ARI
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
8 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
EDM
McDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 6
CBJ
Atkinson, Cam
5 875 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 5
ANA
Getzlaf, Ryan
8 250 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
WPG
Wheeler, Blake
8 250 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 4
FLA
Ekblad, Aaron
7 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
LAK
Doughty, Drew
11 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 7
OTT
Chabot, Thomas
8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 8
CHI
Kane, Patrick
10 500 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 3
SJS
Karlsson, Erik
11 500 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 7
DET
Larkin, Dylan
6 100 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
WSH
Ovechkin, Alex
9 538 462 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
PHI
Giroux, Claude
8 275 000 $
AG, C, AD
NMC
UFA - 2
BOS
Krejci, David
7 250 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 1
NYI
Lee, Anders
7 000 000 $
AG, C
NTC
UFA - 6
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
BUF
Eichel, Jack
10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 6
NJD
Subban, P.K.
9 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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20 déc 2020 à 20 h 14
#1
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Oilers missing playoffs?
20 déc 2020 à 20 h 16
#2
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Sure it is, but I don’t see the oilers finishing that low.
20 déc 2020 à 20 h 16
#3
Démarrer sujet
Charts are good
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Quoting: Florida_Man_Maroon
Oilers missing playoffs?


I think it's possible. Their depth is still not great, and their defense isn't anything amazing either.

2-6 in the Canadian division is a complete toss-up
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20 déc 2020 à 20 h 21
#4
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Quoting: Dpellz90
I think it's possible. Their depth is still not great, and their defense isn't anything amazing either.

2-6 in the Canadian division is a complete toss-up


I really don't think 1 is sure to be the Leafs. Last season Edmonton finished with 83 points, Toronto with 81, Winnipeg with 80, Calgary with 79, and Vancouver with 78. Calgary has improved, Vancouver is probably mostly lateral depending on player progression. Edmonton and Winnipeg are lateral. The two teams significantly worse than the rest, Montreal and Ottawa, have both improved the most. I would not be shocked at all if Toronto finishes anywhere from 1-6, with Ottawa still being the clear last place team in the division.
20 déc 2020 à 20 h 22
#5
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Definitely some hot takes here, I can dig it
20 déc 2020 à 20 h 27
#6
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Charts are good
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Quoting: Caerii
I really don't think 1 is sure to be the Leafs. Last season Edmonton finished with 83 points, Toronto with 81, Winnipeg with 80, Calgary with 79, and Vancouver with 78. Calgary has improved, Vancouver is probably mostly lateral depending on player progression. Edmonton and Winnipeg are lateral. The two teams significantly worse than the rest, Montreal and Ottawa, have both improved the most. I would not be shocked at all if Toronto finishes anywhere from 1-6, with Ottawa still being the clear last place team in the division.


Toronto is very clearly the best Canadian team. They have the superstar power the other teams don't and they've improved on defense and depth-wise. It would be very surprising if they did not finish first
20 déc 2020 à 20 h 30
#7
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Quoting: Dpellz90
Toronto is very clearly the best Canadian team. They have the superstar power the other teams don't and they've improved on defense and depth-wise. It would be very surprising if they did not finish first


Their superstar power landed them as the second best Canadian team last year, not significantly ahead of three others. That's literally what I just said to you. Signing a washed up Brodie doesn't change much. And as far as star power goes, Edmonton has two players better than anyone on Toronto's roster.
20 déc 2020 à 20 h 37
#8
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Quoting: Caerii
Their superstar power landed them as the second best Canadian team last year, not significantly ahead of three others. That's literally what I just said to you. Signing a washed up Brodie doesn't change much. And as far as star power goes, Edmonton has two players better than anyone on Toronto's roster.


"Washed up Brodie" Lol. I don't think it's in any way guaranteed that the Leafs top the division (or even make the playoffs), but that's just ridiculous. He's a very solid Dman.
20 déc 2020 à 20 h 38
#9
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
"Washed up Brodie" Lol. I don't think it's in any way guaranteed that the Leafs top the division (or even make the playoffs), but that's just ridiculous. He's a very solid Dman.


He is very much well beyond his prime. He was in Calgary, and him signing in Toronto doesn't change that, as much as you want it to.
20 déc 2020 à 20 h 42
#10
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Quoting: Caerii
He is very much well beyond his prime. He was in Calgary, and him signing in Toronto doesn't change that, as much as you want it to.


Being past your prime and being washed up are not the same thing.
20 déc 2020 à 20 h 48
#11
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Quoting: Caerii
I really don't think 1 is sure to be the Leafs. Last season Edmonton finished with 83 points, Toronto with 81, Winnipeg with 80, Calgary with 79, and Vancouver with 78. Calgary has improved, Vancouver is probably mostly lateral depending on player progression. Edmonton and Winnipeg are lateral. The two teams significantly worse than the rest, Montreal and Ottawa, have both improved the most. I would not be shocked at all if Toronto finishes anywhere from 1-6, with Ottawa still being the clear last place team in the division.


Toronto finished 2 points behind Edm, while having a game in hand. Also, leafs missed JT for 6 weeks, marner for 5 weeks, Reilly for 2 months, muzzin for 2 months as well. The fact that the oilers weren’t much ahead of the leafs is really sad lol. If they leafs were healthy, they would’ve certainly finished ahead of the oilers, no question.
20 déc 2020 à 20 h 50
#12
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Quoting: Caerii
Their superstar power landed them as the second best Canadian team last year, not significantly ahead of three others. That's literally what I just said to you. Signing a washed up Brodie doesn't change much. And as far as star power goes, Edmonton has two players better than anyone on Toronto's roster.


Drai is not better than Matthews lol. And beyond Drai, McDavid, Nuge the oilers rlly don’t have anything lol. If u think Brodie is beyond his prime, Turris was literally a healthy scratch multiple times last year lmao. Flames and leafs are both clearly better than the oilers.
20 déc 2020 à 20 h 52
#13
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Quoting: Caerii
Their superstar power landed them as the second best Canadian team last year, not significantly ahead of three others. That's literally what I just said to you. Signing a washed up Brodie doesn't change much. And as far as star power goes, Edmonton has two players better than anyone on Toronto's roster.


And not to Mention, the oilers haven’t beat Freddie Andersen in regulation, ever lol. They’ve only beat the Leafs 4 times since 2010 as well lol
20 déc 2020 à 20 h 53
#14
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1-6 is wide open, Leafs arent guaranteed to win the division
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20 déc 2020 à 20 h 56
#15
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Quoting: Caerii
I really don't think 1 is sure to be the Leafs. Last season Edmonton finished with 83 points, Toronto with 81, Winnipeg with 80, Calgary with 79, and Vancouver with 78. Calgary has improved, Vancouver is probably mostly lateral depending on player progression. Edmonton and Winnipeg are lateral. The two teams significantly worse than the rest, Montreal and Ottawa, have both improved the most. I would not be shocked at all if Toronto finishes anywhere from 1-6, with Ottawa still being the clear last place team in the division.


You have to take into account the divisions from last season if your talking about last seasons point totals. That pacific division wasn't very good last season. So I wouldn't use their point totals to say edmonton, calgary, or vancouver are as good as toronto. I'd argue that Winnipeg is pretty underrated considering they usually play in the central, arguably the best division. I can see the jets finishing as high as 2nd in the division.
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20 déc 2020 à 21 h 01
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Quoting: Oodz
Drai is not better than Matthews lol. And beyond Drai, McDavid, Nuge the oilers rlly don’t have anything lol. If u think Brodie is beyond his prime, Turris was literally a healthy scratch multiple times last year lmao. Flames and leafs are both clearly better than the oilers.


As a Flames fan, Leon Draisaitl is so much better than Auston Matthews that it is legitimately embarrassing that you can call yourself a hockey fan after saying that. The Oilers have Yamamoto and Kahun and that's something. Brodie will be a travesty in Toronto, we've seen this movie twice before. Oilers fans really think Kyle Turris will put them over the top lmao. You're right on that one. Also correct on the last part
20 déc 2020 à 21 h 04
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Leafs aren't a lock for 1st lmao. Favourites, but don't be shocked if Calgary, Vancouver, Edmonton, Montreal or Winnipeg go crazy and you miss the playoffs.
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20 déc 2020 à 21 h 05
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Quoting: TheFlamingC
Leafs aren't a lock for 1st lmao. Favourites, but don't be shocked if Calgary, Vancouver, Edmonton, Montreal or Winnipeg go crazy and you miss the playoffs.


I think the oilers win it tbh
20 déc 2020 à 21 h 14
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Quoting: Caerii
I really don't think 1 is sure to be the Leafs. Last season Edmonton finished with 83 points, Toronto with 81, Winnipeg with 80, Calgary with 79, and Vancouver with 78. Calgary has improved, Vancouver is probably mostly lateral depending on player progression. Edmonton and Winnipeg are lateral. The two teams significantly worse than the rest, Montreal and Ottawa, have both improved the most. I would not be shocked at all if Toronto finishes anywhere from 1-6, with Ottawa still being the clear last place team in the division.


Edmonton's goal differential at 5v5 tells the true story of their team and they did nothing to improve on that. Meanwhile the Leafs have a better defence and a full season under the coaching staff that saw them operate on the 8th best record despite missing Rielly and Muzzin for half that time.
20 déc 2020 à 21 h 15
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
I think the oilers win it tbh


They really aren't good. Terrible at 5v5 and did nothing to improve anything. And their best defenceman could miss the whole season. Very little needs to go wrong to see the Oilers finish 2nd last, while everything needs to go right for them to challenge for the top of the division.
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20 déc 2020 à 21 h 16
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Quoting: TheFlamingC
Leafs aren't a lock for 1st lmao. Favourites, but don't be shocked if Calgary, Vancouver, Edmonton, Montreal or Winnipeg go crazy and you miss the playoffs.


No one can say that unless they take everything outlier bad thing that happened to TO last season and assume it will be the norm. That just is silly.
20 déc 2020 à 21 h 17
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Quoting: TheFlamingC
As a Flames fan, Leon Draisaitl is so much better than Auston Matthews that it is legitimately embarrassing that you can call yourself a hockey fan after saying that. The Oilers have Yamamoto and Kahun and that's something. Brodie will be a travesty in Toronto, we've seen this movie twice before. Oilers fans really think Kyle Turris will put them over the top lmao. You're right on that one. Also correct on the last part


No he isn't lol, Matthews accomplished more at a younger age and has done it without McDavid boosting his stats and in less playing time. Also Draisaitl is a bad player defensively while Matthews is a terrific 2 way player. It's not close.
20 déc 2020 à 21 h 28
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
They really aren't good. Terrible at 5v5 and did nothing to improve anything. And their best defenceman could miss the whole season. Very little needs to go wrong to see the Oilers finish 2nd last, while everything needs to go right for them to challenge for the top of the division.


I like what they did to their forward depth and I can’t bet against McDavid and Drai. Their defense is iffy but so is everyones in the Canadian division and they got a lot of young guys who could step up (Jones, Bear who’s already good, Bouchard)
20 déc 2020 à 21 h 35
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
I think the oilers win it tbh


Quite possible but I think Mike Smith and Mikko Koskinen are too much adversity to overcome
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20 déc 2020 à 21 h 36
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
No one can say that unless they take everything outlier bad thing that happened to TO last season and assume it will be the norm. That just is silly.


I don't think they'll miss the playoffs but they're not close to as safe as everyone thinks. More cause for concern here than in the Atlantic.
 
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