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Mega giga trade

Créé par: Bruinsforlife
Équipe: 2020-21 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 17 déc. 2020
Publié: 17 déc. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1700 000 $
Transactions
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BOS
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2021 (CHI)
CHI
  1. Moore, John
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
3.
BOS
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
WPG
  1. Ritchie, Nick
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
4.
BOS
  1. Voracek, Jakub
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (PHI)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $80 493 389 $964 222 $2 000 000 $1 006 611 $
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6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 5
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6 875 000 $6 875 000 $
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M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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6 666 667 $6 666 667 $
AD
UFA - 3
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
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1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 6
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3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
700 000 $700 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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1 275 000 $1 275 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
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850 000 $850 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
700 000 $700 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Bruins de Boston
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
3 687 500 $3 687 500 $
DG
UFA - 4
Logo de Bruins de Boston
2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 250 000 $$1M)
G
UFA - 1
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850 000 $850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ (Bonis de performance750 000 $$750K)
DD
UFA - 1

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17 déc. 2020 à 10 h 5
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Philly rejects, STL rejects and Dunn signs for more
17 déc. 2020 à 10 h 40
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It's not an insulting offer or anything, but the Blues probably say no thanks. I think the gap from Debrusk to Sanford is smaller than the gap between Dunn and UrhoV (who the Blues already have an NHL-ready play-alike of that is bigger and skates better). They'd be more likely to bite on a strong RD prospect than an LD prospect.
17 déc. 2020 à 10 h 40
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Philly rejects, STL rejects and Dunn signs for more


Bruh, the bruins the blues trade lmao thats not even close to STL rejects
17 déc. 2020 à 10 h 40
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Philly and Boston both decline that one. Hawks pass. Jets 🤷🏻‍♂️.

Blues is interesting, but Dunn is even less of 1st pair guy than Grizz is and would be better of being paired with Carlo who is used to babysitting an offense first, D questionable d man.
17 déc. 2020 à 10 h 41
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Quoting: mokumboi
It's not an insulting offer or anything, but the Blues probably say no thanks. I think the gap from Debrusk to Sanford is smaller than the gap between Dunn and UrhoV ( who the Blues already have an NHL-ready play-alike of that is bigger and skates better).


Debrusk is better than Sanford by a decent amoun,t and Urho has a higher cap than Dunn rn...

Bruins reject, this guy doesnt speak for us anyway though
17 déc. 2020 à 10 h 41
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Bruh, the bruins laugh at that blues trade lmao thats not even close


Pretty fair value actually.
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17 déc. 2020 à 10 h 41
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Bruh stop making bruins ACGMs
17 déc. 2020 à 10 h 41
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Pretty fair value actually.


I meant saying STL rejects is wrong.
17 déc. 2020 à 10 h 44
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Debrusk is better than Sanford by a decent amoun,t and Urho has a higher cap than Dunn rn...

Bruins reject, this guy doesnt speak for us anyway though



Debrusk is better offensively but Sanford can chip in offense and plays a heavy game. Debrusk is more valuable for sure. But Dunn is more valuable than Urho by a similar amount.
17 déc. 2020 à 10 h 44
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Bruh, the bruins laugh at that blues trade lmao thats not even close


Dunn is better than Vaakanainen and Debrusk is slighlty better than Sanford, so to me it's either a blues decline or a fair trade
17 déc. 2020 à 10 h 46
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
I meant saying STL rejects is wrong.



I agree, the fact that Dunn would be their 3rd pair and Debrusk is an upgrade over Sanford makes me think they would accept.
17 déc. 2020 à 10 h 50
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I know the CHI deal is a minor part, but they'd also reject. That just stops the development of other prospects and eats up cap for years to come. It's a pretty bad trade for the Hawks overall.
17 déc. 2020 à 10 h 51
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Dunn is better than Vaakanainen and Debrusk is slighlty better than Sanford, so to me it's either a blues decline or a fair trade


But Urho is younger and has a higher cap right now as I said. You are thinking about that in the present only. Hope this helps!
17 déc. 2020 à 10 h 53
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
But Urho is younger and has a higher cap right now as I said. You are thinking about that in the present only. Hope this helps!


Imo Urho and Dunn have about the same cap
17 déc. 2020 à 11 h 2
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But Urho is younger and has a higher cap right now as I said. You are thinking about that in the present only. Hope this helps!


Based on what? His draft slot? Zboril went even higher how has that worked out? I have not seen anything from Urho that suggests more than a 4/5 d man. Dunn is at least that already and can QB the PP.
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Debrusk is better than Sanford by a decent amoun,t...

and Urho has a higher cap than Dunn rn...



1- Not if you go by last season, he doesn't.
2- Uhh no, And it's not all that close.
17 déc. 2020 à 12 h 9
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Imo Urho and Dunn have about the same cap


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Based on what? His draft slot? Zboril went even higher how has that worked out? I have not seen anything from Urho that suggests more than a 4/5 d man. Dunn is at least that already and can QB the PP.


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1- Not if you go by last season, he doesn't.
2- Uhh no, And it's not all that close.


Literally all recent reports are saying Urho is a 2/3 cap. Possibly a top pair guy and most likely a 3rd dman.
Like Zboril, he (and ANYONE) could bust and not perform up to their projection

However yeah Dunn is also a top 4 guy rn with a similar cap, but hes older as well. So fine call them even if you want, but Dunn certainly isnt more valuable than Urho, thats just quick maths
(Just for more facts/stats - At the AHL level Urho is .5 ppg and Dunn is a little over .5 ppg, but also as you mentioned he is much more offensive vs Urho who is apparently a two way guy)
But debrusk vs Sanford is two years older, has nearly half the PGG as debrusk, and until this year ahsnt had more than 10 goals (we love our home gorn guys in boston, but not for a clearly better palyer)

I actually remember the three of u from before my break, and I like all 3 of you. But the facts are the facts, and Truly i dont get why yall wanna keep arguing against the facts lmaoooo

The bruins reject this trade on Value and Probably on pieces, the blues might ALSO reject, but they have the value advantage by a slight bit
17 déc. 2020 à 12 h 26
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Literally all recent reports are saying Urho is a 2/3 cap. Possibly a top pair guy and most likely a 3rd dman.
Like Zboril, he (and ANYONE) could bust and not perform up to their projection

However yeah Dunn is also a top 4 guy rn with a similar cap, but hes older as well. So fine call them even if you want, but Dunn certainly isnt more valuable than Urho, thats just quick maths
(Just for more facts/stats - At the AHL level Urho is .5 ppg and Dunn is a little over .5 ppg, but also as you mentioned he is much more offensive vs Urho who is apparently a two way guy)
But debrusk vs Sanford is two years older, has nearly half the PGG as debrusk, and until this year ahsnt had more than 10 goals (we love our home gorn guys in boston, but not for a clearly better palyer)

I actually remember the three of u from before my break, and I like all 3 of you. But the facts are the facts, and Truly i dont get why yall wanna keep arguing against the facts lmaoooo

The bruins reject this trade on Value and Probably on pieces, the blues might ALSO reject, but they have the value advantage by a slight bit



I can show you reports that question Urho’s abilty to transition to the NHL and could struggle to move the puck at that level. 🤷🏻‍♂️ The eyeball test for me is iffy. Granted i have only seen him play 15 or so games.

Sanford is a finished product i believe anyway, a 30-35 point solid 3rd liner that won’t kill you if he has to move to 2nd but not ideal. Debrusk has avg 25g per 82 even with a slump and has more upside still. That is where the difference in this trade really lies. Comes down to team needs and preference. Not sure either team does it honestly. But i can make a case for both to accept or both to decline. It’s pretty fair. 🤷🏻‍♂️
17 déc. 2020 à 12 h 38
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Imagine thinking Kase has more value than Voracek. Kase has never been able to stay in the lineup and has broken 20 goals and 30 pts once in his career. Kase's career high matches Voracek's career low - his rookie year. Makes no sense for the Flyers to get worse on the ice and give up picks.
17 déc. 2020 à 13 h 20
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Literally all recent reports are saying Urho is a 2/3 cap. Possibly a top pair guy and most likely a 3rd dman.
Like Zboril, he (and ANYONE) could bust and not perform up to their projection

However yeah Dunn is also a top 4 guy rn with a similar cap, but hes older as well. So fine call them even if you want, but Dunn certainly isnt more valuable than Urho, thats just quick maths
(Just for more facts/stats - At the AHL level Urho is .5 ppg and Dunn is a little over .5 ppg, but also as you mentioned he is much more offensive vs Urho who is apparently a two way guy)
But debrusk vs Sanford is two years older, has nearly half the PGG as debrusk, and until this year ahsnt had more than 10 goals (we love our home gorn guys in boston, but not for a clearly better palyer)

I actually remember the three of u from before my break, and I like all 3 of you. But the facts are the facts, and Truly i dont get why yall wanna keep arguing against the facts lmaoooo

The bruins reject this trade on Value and Probably on pieces, the blues might ALSO reject, but they have the value advantage by a slight bit


Wow. Pass that bong over here. Nobody thinks Urho is top pairing material, and it's adorable that you try to compare their minor league stats when Dunn is a bonafide NHL player.

Real talk: If Urho gets to even close of what Dunn is now, it will be a shock miracle. And Dunn has barely scratched the surface of his potential. Urho has nowhere near the skill of Dunn, dude.
17 déc. 2020 à 14 h 4
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Imagine thinking Kase has more value than Voracek. Kase has never been able to stay in the lineup and has broken 20 goals and 30 pts once in his career. Kase's career high matches Voracek's career low - his rookie year. Makes no sense for the Flyers to get worse on the ice and give up picks.


Nobody does. 6m in cap savings is significant especially right now. JV contract isn’t a good one now, at his age and length it won’t get better. Philly does not improve on ice with this deal by any means. They become far more cap healthy. Boston gets better on ice but get put in cap hell. It’s a no from both.
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