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Créé par: yikes
Équipe: 2020-21 Sharks de San Jose
Date de création initiale: 16 déc. 2020
Publié: 16 déc. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
LTIR are preseason camp roster contenders that could be taking spots instead of the current bttom 6
Transactions
1.
SJS
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (TBL)
Détails additionnels:
Anywhere any team (TB placeholder)
3rd - 4th return
TBL
  1. Sörensen, Marcus
Détails additionnels:
Anywhere any team (TB placeholder)
3rd - 4th return
2.
SJS
  1. Alnefelt, Hugo [Liste de réserve]
  2. Barré-Boulet, Alex
  3. Johnson, Tyler
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (TBL)
Détails additionnels:
*Conditional 2022 2nd*
Johnson must record .50 ppg (If the Seasons length is 56 regular season games and Tyler Johnson plays all 56 games, Johnson must score more than 28 points) and if he does not, the Sharks receive a 2021 First from Tampa and Tampa receives their 2022 2nd back.
TBL
  1. Suomela, Antti
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (SJS)
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2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $74 111 758 $0 $645 000 $7 388 242 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 7
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
4 725 000 $4 725 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
700 000 $700 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, C, AG
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
759 258 $759 258 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
792 500 $792 500 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
700 000 $700 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
DG/DD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
2 166 667 $2 166 667 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
5 280 000 $5 280 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
778 333 $778 333 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
763 333 $763 333 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
C, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
736 666 $736 666 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
768 333 $768 333 $ (Bonis de performance65 000 $$65K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
700 000 $700 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
725 000 $725 000 $
DG
UFA - 2

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16 déc. 2020 à 13 h 55
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All I want for Christmas is for Wilson to take incentives for a bad contract halo
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Name me one good reason? Why Tyler Johnson would leave a State where he doesn't pay taxes to another where he'd pay the highest taxes in the Country, No freaking way is he waiving for any California team.
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16 déc. 2020 à 14 h 12
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Name me one good reason? Why Tyler Johnson would leave a State where he doesn't pay taxes to another where he'd pay the highest taxes in the Country, No freaking way is he waiving for any California team.


Okay and why did multiple players go detroit? a bottom feeder? because its their own choices and they wanted to play there. you arent TJ so you dont know what he'll do. If tampa asks him (as we can assume they have great internal communication and respect) and he agrees to it then whatever he goes somewhere to play and where hell be expected to play/ drive a third line. Its not unlikely for him to make a decision that will allow him to be somewhere that wants him and will provide him a defined role.Tampa doesnt want him and he knows that due to being waived. Its not impossible for a player to make a decision we dont expect as it literally happens a dozen times every year; anyways this is all hypotheticals.
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16 déc. 2020 à 14 h 40
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I think if any team has ABB they need to let him develop another year
16 déc. 2020 à 14 h 42
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I think if any team has ABB they need to let him develop another year


Hes 23 and put up two years in a row with near PPG ('18-19 = 6pts and '19-20 = 4pts away from PPG) in the AHL. The guys only gonna grow more by learning to put his game into the NHL imo
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16 déc. 2020 à 15 h 21
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Okay and why did multiple players go detroit? a bottom feeder? because its their own choices and they wanted to play there. you arent TJ so you dont know what he'll do. If tampa asks him (as we can assume they have great internal communication and respect) and he agrees to it then whatever he goes somewhere to play and where hell be expected to play/ drive a third line. Its not unlikely for him to make a decision that will allow him to be somewhere that wants him and will provide him a defined role.Tampa doesnt want him and he knows that due to being waived. Its not impossible for a player to make a decision we dont expect as it literally happens a dozen times every year; anyways this is all hypotheticals.


There was a solid article a month or two ago where they talked about how tax rates don't play as much of a factor as people try to make it seem. A decent financial planner can skirt tax rates quite substantially.
16 déc. 2020 à 15 h 34
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Name me one good reason? Why Tyler Johnson would leave a State where he doesn't pay taxes to another where he'd pay the highest taxes in the Country, No freaking way is he waiving for any California team.


I would have like this post three times if I could!!!

This is the BIGGEST non-hockey related reality that most ACGMs aren't taking into real consideration. 20-21 and likely 21-22 will be a flat cap, and escrows will be doubled. Players can only get 50% of HRR and they're well over this amount right now. 20-21 will be a pro-rated year with 56 games being considered. That means that players will make less AND have to escrow more. Now, California has a 13.3% state income tax rate and Florida has zero. That means that TJ would pay an additional $665,000 x 4 to taxes in order to go to SJ. It's not like SJ gives him a real shot at another ring.

This is a tough sell to any Tampa player with this being a very unusual year. You can bet that player agents are telling Tampa that their client will only waive if the tax consequences are minimal, such as:
Dallas (no cap space)
Vegas (negative cap space)
Nash (2% tax, and has lots of cap space)
Pitts (3.07%, $1.3M cap space)
Phil (3.07% $2.26M cap space, but only 20 contracts)
Det (4.25%, and has lots of cap space)
PHX (4.54%, no cap space)
COL (4.63%, $1.8M cap space, but only 20 contracts)

That's pretty much it. All other states are above 5%....and let's not even talk about Canada!!
16 déc. 2020 à 15 h 37
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Quoting: Jim_Benning_Almost
I would have like this post three times if I could!!!

This is the BIGGEST non-hockey related reality that most ACGMs aren't taking into real consideration. 20-21 and likely 21-22 will be a flat cap, and escrows will be doubled. Players can only get 50% of HRR and they're well over this amount right now. 20-21 will be a pro-rated year with 56 games being considered. That means that players will make less AND have to escrow more. Now, California has a 13.3% state income tax rate and Florida has zero. That means that TJ would pay an additional $665,000 x 4 to taxes in order to go to SJ. It's not like SJ gives him a real shot at another ring.

This is a tough sell to any Tampa player with this being a very unusual year. You can bet that player agents are telling Tampa that their client will only waive if the tax consequences are minimal, such as:
Dallas (no cap space)
Vegas (negative cap space)
Nash (2% tax, and has lots of cap space)
Pitts (3.07%, $1.3M cap space)
Phil (3.07% $2.26M cap space, but only 20 contracts)
Det (4.25%, and has lots of cap space)
PHX (4.54%, no cap space)
COL (4.63%, $1.8M cap space, but only 20 contracts)

That's pretty much it. All other states are above 5%....and let's not even talk about Canada!!


But the Canadian players are paid in USD and with the conversion rate iunno the maths too good but it probably neutralizes the tax a little
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But the Canadian players are paid in USD and with the conversion rate iunno the maths too good but it probably neutralizes the tax a little


Yes, this is true, they have most of their expenses in CAN$ which is the great equalizer.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Name me one good reason? Why Tyler Johnson would leave a State where he doesn't pay taxes to another where he'd pay the highest taxes in the Country, No freaking way is he waiving for any California team.


First, no team picked him up when he was waived, means no one thinks he’s worth his contract. That makes his choices where he goes very thin and if he loves the game and wants to play he goes wherever someone wants him.
Second, San Jose has a great culture and until last year where cup contenders.
Third our system and the way we play helped another well knows 5’9” guy with good hands but slower skater become A
Captain and put up multiple 35+ goal seasons, that guy left leaving a void in our system That TJ is almost perfect to fill.

Bottom line TJ could be a poor
Mans Pavelski and carve out a solid end to his career in SJ much like a former TBL did by the name of Dan Boyle. Who even though taxes suck still lives in San Jose.
16 déc. 2020 à 16 h 56
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
First, no team picked him up when he was waived, means no one thinks he’s worth his contract. That makes his choices where he goes very thin and if he loves the game and wants to play he goes wherever someone wants him.
Second, San Jose has a great culture and until last year where cup contenders.
Third our system and the way we play helped another well knows 5’9” guy with good hands but slower skater become A
Captain and put up multiple 35+ goal seasons, that guy left leaving a void in our system That TJ is almost perfect to fill.

Bottom line TJ could be a poor
Mans Pavelski and carve out a solid end to his career in SJ much like a former TBL did by the name of Dan Boyle. Who even though taxes suck still lives in San Jose.


He can play 3rd line minutes here in Tampa, he's not waiving for a team to play 3rd line minutes he'll want to go where he can get top 6 minutes not bottom 6 minutes. That's just plain fact.
16 déc. 2020 à 17 h 2
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He can play 3rd line minutes here in Tampa, he's not waiving for a team to play 3rd line minutes he'll want to go where he can get top 6 minutes not bottom 6 minutes. That's just plain fact.


Ok that’s my point on the sharks he will be top line or 2nd line RW and have tons of opportunities to backhand one time or tip in all those shots from points by Karlsson and Burns.

And why would a player stay where he isn’t wanted and play bottom 6 min with no power play time
Or offensive zone time when he can go to a team and play top 6 and tons of pp time and help
Them make the playoffs
16 déc. 2020 à 18 h 45
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Name me one good reason? Why Tyler Johnson would leave a State where he doesn't pay taxes to another where he'd pay the highest taxes in the Country, No freaking way is he waiving for any California team.


“Hi Tyler were trading you to San Jose please waive”

“No”

“Then have fun playing in the AHL for the rest of your career”

“Okay I’ll waive”
 
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