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Créé par: dpdan
Équipe: 2021-22 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 12 déc. 2020
Publié: 12 déc. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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With another flat cap year, I think that guys like Tatar will be available for short money/term deals. Krecji and Rask finish out their careers in Boston.
This is also assuming Murray shows that he can stay healthy and doesn’t resign in NJ, if either happen then Bs look for another LD to sign/trade for.

Thoughts on term/$ for RFAs?
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
55 000 000 $
2950 000 $
1850 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
27 000 000 $
14 000 000 $
45 250 000 $
11 000 000 $
24 750 000 $
Transactions
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BOS
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    1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
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    1. Moore, John
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
    Détails additionnels:
    Retain $1000000
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    1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (SJS)
    OTT
    1. Kase, Ondrej [Droits de RFA]
    Détails additionnels:
    If Kase stays healthy then I think that they resign him, if not I think that they move on. Ottawa might take a flier.
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    12 déc. 2020 à 9 h 12
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    What is that Murray contract?
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    12 déc. 2020 à 10 h 7
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    Do you know who Ryan Murray is?
    12 déc. 2020 à 12 h 56
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    Quoting: Bcarlo25
    Do you know who Ryan Murray is?


    I know that when he’s healthy, he’s a top pair LD (which is why I mentioned his health in the scrip)
    12 déc. 2020 à 13 h 1
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    I know that when he’s healthy, he’s a top pair LD (which is why I mentioned his health in the scrip)


    Noooo he is not. He’s never been that.
    12 déc. 2020 à 14 h 4
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    Noooo he is not. He’s never been that.



    I go by what The Athletic has him ranked as. At 5 on 5 he ranks ahead of Shea Theadore for GAR since 2017. I don’t even know what that means, but NHL front offices and pro hockey writers do. I’m not pencilling him in for a Norris or anything, but his 2 way play and zone exits are top pair comparable. Again allllll of this depends on him staying on the ice, but when healthy, he grades out at as a top 50 D. If someone has numbers that show otherwise I am open to changing my mind.
    12 déc. 2020 à 14 h 31
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    Quoting: dpdan
    I go by what The Athletic has him ranked as. At 5 on 5 he ranks ahead of Shea Theadore for GAR since 2017. I don’t even know what that means, but NHL front offices and pro hockey writers do. I’m not pencilling him in for a Norris or anything, but his 2 way play and zone exits are top pair comparable. Again allllll of this depends on him staying on the ice, but when healthy, he grades out at as a top 50 D. If someone has numbers that show otherwise I am open to changing my mind.


    This post is a very good example of how destructive the fancy stats can be.

    Watch a damn hockey game. No, Murray isn’t better than Shea Theodore...are you kidding me? Do you think columbus just decided to trade a first pair d man for a 5th round pick?

    So to answer my original question, no. You do not know who he is. He’s not a first pair guy. He’s not worth half of what you gave him. This is junk.
    12 déc. 2020 à 16 h 7
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    "If Kase stays healthy then I think that they resign him, if not I think that they move on. Ottawa might take a flier."

    This is not strong logic. Basically what you're saying is, if Kase plays, we'll keep him, if he's not going to play, Ottawa would be stupid enough to give a 2nd for him.

    BTW, If Kase is healthy, he isn't worth a 2nd.
    12 déc. 2020 à 16 h 8
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    Quoting: Bcarlo25
    This post is a very good example of how destructive the fancy stats can be.

    Watch a damn hockey game. No, Murray isn’t better than Shea Theodore...are you kidding me? Do you think columbus just decided to trade a first pair d man for a 5th round pick?

    So to answer my original question, no. You do not know who he is. He’s not a first pair guy. He’s not worth half of what you gave him. This is junk.


    I agree that he’s not better than Theadore, especially since Theadore seems to have made a big leap this past year. We can debate the merits of “fancy stats” and I’m sure that you could find one that ranks Murray lower. I just used what I could find.

    I live in New England so I get to see Murray play the two or three times Columbus plays vs the Bruins if that. So when I want to discuss a player or include him in an ACGM team I have to look him up on the interwebs. So, again, if you have numbers that show that Murray shouldn’t be where I have him I’m willing to change my mind.

    And if not Murray or someone of his ilk, where do the Bs go for LD?
    12 déc. 2020 à 16 h 37
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    Quoting: dpdan
    I agree that he’s not better than Theadore, especially since Theadore seems to have made a big leap this past year. We can debate the merits of “fancy stats” and I’m sure that you could find one that ranks Murray lower. I just used what I could find.

    I live in New England so I get to see Murray play the two or three times Columbus plays vs the Bruins if that. So when I want to discuss a player or include him in an ACGM team I have to look him up on the interwebs. So, again, if you have numbers that show that Murray shouldn’t be where I have him I’m willing to change my mind.

    And if not Murray or someone of his ilk, where do the Bs go for LD?


    Few things here.
    1. No, I’m not going to find a stat that ranks Murray lower, because i think those stats are stupid.
    2. If you don’t get to see a guy play much, before you toss him a big contract and a top pair assignment, see if he’s been traded for a 5th round pick in the last few weeks? If so, maybe stop and find someone else.
    3. Murray’s, “ilk,” is overpaid 3rd pair guy. I might be being a smidge overly critical here, as maybe he could find a shut down pair role with Carlo, but based on the context you’re using, Murray is trash.
    4. The Bs go to internal options. Vaakanainen, Zboril, Lauzon etc. if they don’t work out, they’ll go get someone who’s better than Ryan Murray.
    12 déc. 2020 à 16 h 57
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    Quoting: Bcarlo25
    Few things here.
    1. No, I’m not going to find a stat that ranks Murray lower, because i think those stats are stupid.
    2. If you don’t get to see a guy play much, before you toss him a big contract and a top pair assignment, see if he’s been traded for a 5th round pick in the last few weeks? If so, maybe stop and find someone else.
    3. Murray’s, “ilk,” is overpaid 3rd pair guy. I might be being a smidge overly critical here, as maybe he could find a shut down pair role with Carlo, but based on the context you’re using, Murray is trash.
    4. The Bs go to internal options. Vaakanainen, Zboril, Lauzon etc. if they don’t work out, they’ll go get someone who’s better than Ryan Murray.


    Fair enough
     
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