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Who should the Seattle Kraken pick?

10 déc. 2020 à 15 h 52
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Quoting: mackerplaymaker94
Blackhawks Protect:

F: Kaner (NMC)
F: Tazer (NMC)
F: Cat
F: Strome (Unless Traded)
F: Wallmark (If extended)
F: Janmark (If extended)
F: Nylander (If extended)
D: Keith (NMC)
D: Seabrook (NMC)
D: Zadorov (if extended)
G: Delia OR Subban (Whoever plays better)

Exempt: Kubalik, Suter, Dach, Boqvist, Beaudin, Mitchell

Exposed: Shaw, Carpenter, Smith, Kampf, Pirri, deHaan, Murphy, Subban/Delia, Lankinen AND Seabrook if they convince him to waive the NMC to help the Hawks (IF Seattle would want to take them... I would assume it would take a higher pick 2nd round and mid-level prospect in order for them to eat that contract...


if seabrook wouldn't waive who could you see SEA taking?
10 déc. 2020 à 16 h 16
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Quoting: justaBoss
Think Montour's a pending UFA so he won't be getting picked even if left unprotected.


Good catch, I forgot he and McCabe were both UFAs now. So that means toughest call to leave exposed is probably Miller, which is totally fine IMO.
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10 déc. 2020 à 16 h 20
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Bruins
-Bergeron, Marchand, Pastrnak, Coyle, DeBrusk, Kase, Smith
-McAvoy, Grzelcyk, Carlo
-Rask (UFA)

Exposed: Bjork, Clifton, Lauzon, Zboril, Moore, Ritchie, Vladar.

Unless they acquire another top6 F or a top4 D, it won't change. If a D, then protect McAvoy and two of Grzelcyk/Carlo/other D or do a side deal and give a pick. Don't see Rask not getting protected/Vladar instead but who knows.
Best pick for Seattle is Bjork. If he was a really good season, maybe try to keep him otherwise it's okay.

Great idea, there are couple teams I'm not sure of who is protected/exposed; looking forward to hear from their fans.


I fully agree with this list. I mean it really depends on how the kraken are building. gunna be alot of high upside guys available, frederic, zboril, bjork, kuhlman, senyshyn, JFK, lauzon, halak/vladar/Rask. If its me im between frederic/zboril/bjork/lauzon. Fully depends on the season each player has.
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10 déc. 2020 à 16 h 43
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Leafs

FORWARDS: Matthews, JT, Marner, Nylander, Hyman, Kerfoot, anderson

DEFENCE: Reilly, Muzzin, Brodie

GOALIE: Campbell

Dermott or holl probably goes cuz any forward seattle takes can be taken in free agency or isnt that good. Andersen is a free agent so no need to protect imo. Leafs probably won't be affected to bad by Seattle.
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10 déc. 2020 à 17 h 23
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I can see Niku from Winnipeg as he is a better option than Appleton or Harkins. They could take Lowry but he is a UFA so...
10 déc. 2020 à 17 h 28
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F: McDavid Draisaitl RNH Yamamoto Puljujarvi Kassian Benson
D: Bear Jones Nurse
G: Koskinen

Ineligible: Klefbom (LTIR)

Possible selections: Turris, Larsson (UFA) Kahun (RFA) Skinner, Lagesson, Chiasson
10 déc. 2020 à 18 h 49
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Quoting: Pens3lieve
For PIT I'd say right now:

7-3-1

Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel, Zucker, Rust, McCann, Kapanen
Letang, Pettersson, Dumoulin
Jarry

Notable Expansion draft exceptions: John Marino is ineligible! Yes!!!

Note: I had to pick 3 of Rust/McCann/Kapanen/Blueger. this would vary based on performance this next season. for now I went with Kapanen over blueger bc he's scored 20 but if he doesn't mesh as all with PIT that might change...

SEA would have Matheson, Tanev, ZAR, Blueger, etc... to choose from. I think they'd shy away from tanev and matheson's contracts and depending on needs probably pick blueger. I like blueger and ZAR and would give a mid level pick to have them take some under the radar player. I
if matheson is a dumpster fire I'd give up a 1st, a Kapanen/mccann type player, and a nice prospect to get rid of his contract but if the pens stink in a year or two it might not matter....


Trade Malkin to the Kraken. Pens window is closing so might as well go rebuild mode. I'm sure Francis would be interested, especially if he gets to deal with his former mentor Rutherford.
10 déc. 2020 à 20 h 33
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From the Leafs Kerfoot or Dermott
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10 déc. 2020 à 21 h 37
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Trade Malkin to the Kraken. Pens window is closing so might as well go rebuild mode. I'm sure Francis would be interested, especially if he gets to deal with his former mentor Rutherford.


if PIT has another awful year this year I won't rule it out.....
10 déc. 2020 à 22 h 11
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Blackhawks Protect:

F: Kaner (NMC)
F: Tazer (NMC)
F: Cat
F: Strome (Unless Traded)
F: Wallmark (If extended)
F: Janmark (If extended)
F: Nylander (If extended)
D: Keith (NMC)
D: Seabrook (NMC)
D: Zadorov (if extended)
G: Delia OR Subban (Whoever plays better)

Exempt: Kubalik, Suter, Dach, Boqvist, Beaudin, Mitchell

Exposed: Shaw, Carpenter, Smith, Kampf, Pirri, deHaan, Murphy, Subban/Delia, Lankinen AND Seabrook if they convince him to waive the NMC to help the Hawks (IF Seattle would want to take them... I would assume it would take a higher pick 2nd round and mid-level prospect in order for them to eat that contract...


Just saying but it cost Isles a 1st, 2nd and a prospect to dump one year of LTIR bound Grabovski to VGK during the expansion draft. That trade probably involved some other conditions regarding which players are available, but you can bet anything that dumping 4 years Seabrook to Seattle would cost you immensely more than that...
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10 déc. 2020 à 23 h 5
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Vegas
Mark Stone
Patches
Karlsson
Smith
Marchassault
Tuch
Roy

Theodore
Peit
Toss up won by Whitecloud(who i believe is expansion eligible) if not McNabb

Lehner

Some decent options out there like Chandler Stephenson. William Carrier. Alec Martinez. Marc Andre Fleury. If I was Seattle I'd take Chandler Stephenson. He is a very solid 2nd/3rd liner who can play wing and center.
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11 déc. 2020 à 8 h 34
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what about the goalie thing?? Anderson is a FA but he could still be picked if SEA wanted to resign him right??? Im just wondering which goalies could be targets for SEA....


Raanta and Fleury or Lehner
11 déc. 2020 à 9 h 28
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Vegas
Mark Stone
Patches
Karlsson
Smith
Marchassault
Tuch
Roy

Theodore
Peit
Toss up won by Whitecloud(who i believe is expansion eligible) if not McNabb

Lehner

Some decent options out there like Chandler Stephenson. William Carrier. Alec Martinez. Marc Andre Fleury. If I was Seattle I'd take Chandler Stephenson. He is a very solid 2nd/3rd liner who can play wing and center.


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Raanta and Fleury or Lehner


I'm pretty sure Vegas is Entirely Exempt from the SEA expansion draft.....
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11 déc. 2020 à 9 h 49
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Quoting: Pens3lieve
if seabrook wouldn't waive who could you see SEA taking?


Probably deHaan or Murphy with Murphy being the more suitable player here IMO.
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11 déc. 2020 à 9 h 50
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Quoting: justaBoss
Just saying but it cost Isles a 1st, 2nd and a prospect to dump one year of LTIR bound Grabovski to VGK during the expansion draft. That trade probably involved some other conditions regarding which players are available, but you can bet anything that dumping 4 years Seabrook to Seattle would cost you immensely more than that...


Depends on what else is being exposed for them... I think Managers will be a lot more hesitant to give plenty of picks up than the VGK draft. VGK stole players, along with picks... I mean Theodore and Tuch... come on lol.
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11 déc. 2020 à 10 h 31
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Depends on what else is being exposed for them... I think Managers will be a lot more hesitant to give plenty of picks up than the VGK draft. VGK stole players, along with picks... I mean Theodore and Tuch... come on lol.


Less good players I think. Can't see SEA making such steals.
11 déc. 2020 à 12 h 2
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Less good players I think. Can't see SEA making such steals.


I mean look at the ducks at that time: you either do 8-1 and expose one of rickell, silfverberg, cogliano, vermette (thinking rickell or silfverberg would have been the choice), to keep beiksa (nmc), fowler, lindholm, and either theodore or vatanen... or they traded theodore because stoner had 3.25m cap and ducks basically paid (heavily) for a cap dump. The ducks really liked manson and vatanen at the time and wanted to keep them both. some sort of deal had to happen.

Some teams just whiffed on the players they should have kept.... columbus wennberg over karlsson but they traded karlsson to get out of clarksons contact which ended up on ltir anyways... Florida, by far the worst of all of them: kept petrovic and mark pysyk over smith and marchessault they also didnt protect weegar there they even traded smith for a 4th. huge huge mess up... Minnesota what you trade tuch to keep dumba and scandella from being selected i dont know what else you do there if you are minny tbh. Nashville got a blessing in disguise with neal being selected. Vegas could have grabbed brock nelson from the islanders, they made a huge deal instead to grab a 1st a 2nd and a prospect to take grabovskis remaining contract also protecting nelson, strome, bailey by making that trade...

I dont know just my input some teams were not well suited for the expansion draft, others were just plain dumb. I think its a little different this year and going into the draft i think especially flat cap, teams are going to be better suited for it and at the same time wont make as many mistakes as they did with vegas. looking at most teams theres really not a whole lot of "who would you rather take"
11 déc. 2020 à 12 h 21
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Quoting: Pens3lieve
I'm pretty sure Vegas is Entirely Exempt from the SEA expansion draft.....


Oh yeah
11 déc. 2020 à 12 h 22
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F: McDavid Draisaitl RNH Yamamoto Puljujarvi Kassian Benson
D: Bear Jones Nurse
G: Koskinen

Ineligible: Klefbom (LTIR)

Possible selections: Turris, Larsson (UFA) Kahun (RFA) Skinner, Lagesson, Chiasson


Pretty sure Klefbom will be ok by then.
11 déc. 2020 à 17 h 42
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Pretty sure Klefbom will be ok by then.


It's not whether or not as to his health, it's based on the amount of games played in the upcoming season. Klefbom isn't expected to be available until the playoffs at the earliest: it's much more likely that the Oilers keep him shut down and look to add another lefty at the deadline if they need to.
12 déc. 2020 à 1 h 17
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It's not whether or not as to his health, it's based on the amount of games played in the upcoming season. Klefbom isn't expected to be available until the playoffs at the earliest: it's much more likely that the Oilers keep him shut down and look to add another lefty at the deadline if they need to.


This is the description for injured players:
Players with potential career-ending injuries who have missed the previous 60+ consecutive games due to an injury, do not meet the criteria set forth by the league in respect to the minimum exposure requirements for players, and in certain cases these players may even be deemed as exempt from the Expansion Draft selection process.

I don’t think that Klefbom would be deemed as the one of the certain cases, and it’s also impossible for him to miss the last 60 games, since the season will only be 56 games long.
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12 déc. 2020 à 1 h 21
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This is the description for injured players:
Players with potential career-ending injuries who have missed the previous 60+ consecutive games due to an injury, do not meet the criteria set forth by the league in respect to the minimum exposure requirements for players, and in certain cases these players may even be deemed as exempt from the Expansion Draft selection process.

I don’t think that Klefbom would be deemed as the one of the certain cases, and it’s also impossible for him to miss the last 60 games, since the season will only be 56 games long.


That 60 game requirement would likely be pro rated and scaled down over the 56 games
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12 déc. 2020 à 10 h 5
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That 60 game requirement would likely be pro rated and scaled down over the 56 games


That’s fine, but Klefbom still probably wouldn’t be exempt. It would just mean that he doesn’t fit the exposure requirements. I’d assume that they would save real exemption for players with real career ending injuries, like Zetterberg, Gaborik, or Hossa.
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13 déc. 2020 à 1 h 31
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I'm pretty sure Vegas is Entirely Exempt from the SEA expansion draft.....


They are. This is if they weren't
13 déc. 2020 à 3 h 41
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Kerfoot or Dermott.


Depends on Dermott's contract. As long as it's reasonable and he has a decent season I'll take him over Kerfoot all day. Kerfoot is overpaid big time. He should be at 20G+20A with his AAV. I have a feeling like his numbers will only get worse now that Kap & Johnsson are gone.
 
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