Philly laughs at this offer. Dumba doesn't have that kinda value

Philly thinks that's pretty funny

Couturier is a legit number one elite center. There’s zero reason why Philly would entertain this. They get nothing here.

Dumba is kinda whatever and doesn’t really push out any of their guys on D since they’re stacked.

Prov - Myers
Sanheim - gustafsson
Gost/ Hagg - Braun

Dumba only really pushes out the third pair guys and since they just signed gustafsson they clearly peg him as their 4th D for now. So 6mil for a third pair guy is negative value.

Its better to have their current D unit if it means keeping Couturier; who they don’t even get good value out of in this deal.

It probably costs you Dumba, Boldy and 1st to pry Couts from Philly and even still tough to see them make tha5 deal

Absolutly they would, or at least negotiate. Niskanen is gone and they got Myers and possibly Gustafsson on the right side, and Gustafsson isnt even a pure RD. Philly is not gonna want to pay the "elite center" money that Couturier is gonna want, and with Kevin Hayes and Morgan Frost also rounding out the Center role, he can make better name for himself IMO playing as the face of another franchise. Dumba adds another solid right shot on the blue line. Maybe a couple more picks and a top prospect would make it work better, but if I see two players getting swapped, its these two. Appriciate the input though, it makes a lot of sense with what your saying

Your possibly right

Dumba - decent 2nd pair OFD

Couts - number one guy


Dumba is kinda whatever and doesn’t really push out any of their guys on D since they’re stacked.

Prov - Myers
Sanheim - gustafsson
Gost/ Hagg - Braun

Dumba only really pushes out the third pair guys and since they just signed gustafsson they clearly peg him as their 4th D for now. So 6mil for a third pair guy is negative value.

^ from my edited comment.

If this trade was even considered (which it isn’t); because Philly is trying to contend for the cup and losing their best player/ center hurts the team more than Dumba brings. So even if they for whatever reason consider this deal - Minny adds:

Dumba
Krill Kaprisov whatever his name is
1st
Likely another 1st/2nd or a decent prospect

Making it an expensive trade for Minny to consider

Philly has no need their D core is set, and unless they move gustafsson to 3rd pair it makes no sense, even then their forward core becomes much weaker to the point where I don’t see them being as good as they are now so why would they want prospects and picks when they’re trying to win.

As a Wild fan, I can’t even dream of a package that could get couturier. I wouldn’t be surprised with a Frost/pick/ghost for Dumba deal. But yeah, value is a *little* off here.

I think the Wilds approach to get a No 1 C moving forward with be through the draft. Gonna be painful for a while.
Only 5 years to go on Parise and Suter!!

Dumba doesn't fetch close to Couturier

I like Dumba, and Philly would love to have him. A defense of Provorov-Dumba, Sanheim-Myers, Gus-Braun, with Ghost and Hagg still in mix would be great.

But Sean C has a lot more value than Dumba, especially given hes making just 4.33mil for 2 more years. Philly is also looking to contend now, so I don't think picks would have the big value. And Philly doesn't have the cap to make it happen so heres something that may work:

To PHI: Dumba, Greenway, MIN 1st
To MIN: Coots, Ghost