Boston doesn't really need a LW and I can't see them moving their top prospect. They wouldn't even consider moving Stud's in a deal for OEL

Not to mention the cap space problem.

CAR has very limited cap space and Svechnikov and Hamilton to re-sign. IF they were interested in Pacioretty, it’d have to be a dollar in dollar out trade. Vegas isn’t going to be able to dump 4 years at $7M and also fill holes in their lineup.

I feel like no matter what, if Vegas trades Pacioretty they look like fools. Giving up what they gave up to get him, signing him to a massive contract extension, and flipping him within 2 years isn't a good look. For Vegas to win a Pacioretty trade, they would need to be getting a B+ prospect, a roster player, and a 2nd round pick.

How about a deal like dzingle, a 2nd, and a prospect from the canes. Prospect would maybe be Bokk

not enough money going back to vegas in that deal. Dzingel contract up this year patches isnt. they need dzingels money to go towards dougie and svech. dont forget.... flat cap.

No I know there would also have to be another move in which the canes move out money, likely Gardiner. Even bring in 7 mil the canes still have plenty of cap space to sign dougie and Svech. My guess is the 2 are around 15 mil combined cap hit with dougie 8*8.5 and svech 3*6.5

they still need a goalie and they are likely going to have a hole somewhere when expansion draft comes up. depending on how protections go... 7-3-1 would put them in a scenario where skjei, pesce, fleury, bean are all left open. 4x4 would leave someone like trochek open unless you got staal to waive his nmc.

I posted a team with how it could work if u want to take a look

i saw and you had seattle take nino... which makes sense if they are being paid to take him. but whats it cost in a flat cap world to take on that kind of money from a team that has better options to choose from?

I mean id say the canes can offer a B prospect to seattle to take him. If that doesnt work then fine, nino can be traded and the canes are not going to have to pay to do it. Nino has been a 40-50 point scorer on several occasion and has very good analytics numbers, there would be teams interested in him next offseason with 1 year left on his deal

3 years in his career has he topped 40 points. I personally like using a 3 year sample size for all players. with that in mind in that span: 32, 53, 29. his toi was 18:17 with carolina when he put up 30 in 36 and was almost 3 and a half minutes higher than his time with minnesota that same year. Im not surprised his toi dropped back down to sub 15 this year. If he has another sub 40 point year this year he isnt going to get nearly anything in return. 30 point players are a dime a dozen in the nhl.

I feel like Boston could use a LW in general (maybe I’m just not familiar with his upside, but Bjork seems to be a solid 4th liner, he’s getting solid 4th liner money, and he’s on the 3rd line when everyone’s healthy), and especially with Marchand and Pastrnak out to start the year and the year being shorter, Boston could probably use some scoring help in the short term, as there’s no room for error and their window is closing. With Marchand/Pastrnak starting on LTIR the Bruins can accrue some space, but this would probably involve a third party team retaining some cap to go through. I do think it makes sense for the Bruins in the short term (immediate top line help) and longer term (great guy to have on the 2nd line, bumps DeBrusk to a very good 3rd line) that gives them a solid shot at a cup this year and the year after, assuming they find a budget goalie tandem and replacement middle six C (plus give Carlo a raise) for less than the 16.5m Rask, Halak, and Krejci get (pretty reasonable to expect they can pull that off). It also means you don’t have to have Bjork or Ritchie in the top 6 to start the year. And ultimately it gives them a better chance to win in the next 2-3 years, which is their window, and they’ll likely have to tear it down after that and try to rebuild around Pasta and McAvoy as quick as they can. As for not wanting to move Studnicka, you’ve gotta give to get, and while Pacioretty’s not worth what they gave to Montreal anymore (equivalent is probably Smith+Studnicka+1st, maybe a little more as Tatar/Suzuki are better than those two) Vegas is going to get better offers if you try to give up worse prospects. Patches is also much better than OEL was last year for his position, he was one of the top wingers in the league and OEL is making significantly more for over twice as long, so they might consider giving up Studnicka if the money made sense and someone else could retain a couple mil.


I did mention Niederreiter would likely need to get dumped to fit Pacioretry, and trading Gardiner and/or Skjei next summer (plus letting Dzingel walk) probably gives you close to enough room to keep Svechnikov and Hamilton (maybe you bridge Svech to make it easier), depending on what happens with their goalies (my guess is they try to keep it around the same as they’re paying Mrazek/Reimer, but split between good starter and cheap backup, like Nedeljkovic). Giving up a pick or prospect to get rid of Niederreiter likely won’t be TOO expensive as he’s still reasonably effective (definitely overpaid though), and adding a player like Patches gives the Canes more weapons to play with up front and diversifies their offense a bit, which makes them scarier to face and could push them over the edge (their D is obviously fine, and with guys like Bean/Keane on the way it will be for a while).

Columbus isn’t a viable option, they don’t have the cap room unless your take a player like Nyquist back in the trade.

If PLD signs a bridge for 8mil or less (reasonable to expect around 6.5-7 looking at Point/Tkachuk on a 3 year bridge, maybe even a bit less) they should have more than enough room once Dubinsky goes on LTIR right? Plus there’s probably a bit of salary leaving if Kukan or Savard are involved.

PLD is probably and 8.5x8 for a contract.
Dubinsky can on on LTIR, but we don’t have 15 mil in cap space unless Nyquist is moved there as well and he isn’t out for the full season.
As for Savard, and Kukan. Neither can really be moved. Peeke isn’t top 4 ready and we really don’t have anyone to play in Savard’s spot. Kukan is the 5. Harrington is the guy who’d need to be in the trade.

That’s still all for this year. Adding patches would need to include Nyquist so we can have cap room for Bjorkstrand, Texier, Werenski, Jones and others in the next 2 years.

Pending official start, Marchand may not miss any time and Pasta a few weeks. Again just not worth it Boston. VGK has little negotiating power as they are over the cap and still have two roster spots to fill. What your going to get is cap space and it cost to acquire cap space.

This is a flawed point of view. It costs to acquire cap space if the player is not worth it (e.g. Toronto dumping Marleau). It doesn’t cost to acquire cap space if the player is worth their contract (e.g. Toronto got assets for dumping Kapanen and Johnsson). Pacioretty was one of the better wingers in the league last year, he won’t fetch close to what he got for Montreal, but he’ll still fetch significant positive value for being an actual good player.

Its not flawed at all. VGK needs cap space because right now they're screwed. Unless a GM sees patches as the missing piece, it'll be pennies on the dollar for value. No team is going to give close to true value and that includes their top prospect.