I'm pretty sure TB said they aren't moving Cirelli or Sergachev and with Detroit taking on an extra $5M in cap for the next 4 seasons when it will be at least 3 seasons before the cap raises more than $1M in a single offseason. 3 2nds in the same draft is a lot to ask for.

well they have to do something. Any Tampa team I have made, regardless of who I trade, I get responses like yours. Tampa won't trade them or can't. They have to do something!

As for Detroit side of things, I think they should do it. Johnson can still play and is a good player and they get an amazing piece in Cirelli. Would help them out a lot.

BriseBois said it a couple of days ago and it will be at least 2 before Detroit is in the playoffs and Johnson wasn't worth the $5M he made last season and that will not improve with age. So from Detroit's pov he is a cap dump that most likely won't waive for Detroit anyway. Maybe you'd like Detroit to give you a 2nd for Kerfoot but like your proposal above it won't happen.

aedoran is pretty level headed. This isn't directed at him. But I hear ya. I've created many Tampa ACGM rosters on here too and most responses are negative. They basically just parrot each other from what they've all read on Spector's, HF boards, TSN, etc. There's no original thought. No one's splitting the atom here. They just like hearing themselves talk. They'll continue repeating themselves ad nauseum. It's quite hilarious actually.

As for Tampa, you're right. Something has to happen. And it will. My guess is they'll somehow get out of cap jail and all the jealous non Tampa fans will cry and complain and be angry that they didn't bleed through their noses like they should've.

But don't let the CFACGM geniuses get you down. None of these guy's are being paid by NHL teams. In their minds trades can never happen because they just can't. I always say that I could travel in the future to one year from now and find out all future trades for the next year.

Then travel back to now and post every one of these trades on CF ACGM and I'd be told by the resident wannabe expert CF ACGM geniuses that these trades can never happen. That's CF ACGM for you.