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Créé par: LeafsFan4Ever34
Équipe: 2020-21 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 6 déc. 2020
Publié: 6 déc. 2020
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6 déc. 2020 à 15 h 14
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Not even a conversation starter for Marner. There needs to be more adds to the offer, including a top end prospect and a first.
6 déc. 2020 à 15 h 15
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Quoting: TheLeafsSeason
Not even a conversation starter for Marner. There needs to be more adds to the offer, including a top end prospect and a first.


ಠ_ಠ
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6 déc. 2020 à 15 h 15
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Not even a conversation starter for Marner. There needs to be more adds to the offer, including a top end prospect and a first.


No, I'm a Leafs fan too
6 déc. 2020 à 15 h 16
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dumba is not exactly what we need, he's more an offensive kinda dman. Still good, but he'd be bumping off Mo for PP1 time which would create problems like with Barrie.

Also Fiala's good, but he's no marner. add in his zero term and a raise in his future, hard to see us pulling the trigger on this imo
6 déc. 2020 à 15 h 27
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Brodin++ for Marner
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6 déc. 2020 à 15 h 30
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dumba is not exactly what we need, he's more an offensive kinda dman. Still good, but he'd be bumping off Mo for PP1 time which would create problems like with Barrie.

Also Fiala's good, but he's no marner. add in his zero term and a raise in his future, hard to see us pulling the trigger on this imo


Marner starts with Brodin+ Perfetti and goes from there
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6 déc. 2020 à 15 h 31
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Marner starts with Brodin+ Perfetti and goes from there


basically yeah
6 déc. 2020 à 15 h 47
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Marner starts with Brodin+ Perfetti and goes from there


good luck getting Perfetti from the Wild
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6 déc. 2020 à 15 h 48
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good luck getting Perfetti from the Wild


good luck getting Marner from the Leafs
6 déc. 2020 à 16 h 7
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Quoting: HockeyFan989
good luck getting Perfetti from the Wild



Quoting: JaredOfLondon
good luck getting Marner from the Leafs


I think what’s he’s saying is that Perfetti plays for the Jets. But yes, otherwise, I agree.
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6 déc. 2020 à 16 h 11
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I think what’s he’s saying is that Perfetti plays for the Jets. But yes, otherwise, I agree.


haha, whoops, mixed up Perfetti and Rossi.
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6 déc. 2020 à 16 h 13
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haha, whoops, mixed up Perfetti and Rossi.


They are quite similar.
6 déc. 2020 à 16 h 15
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They are quite similar.


yep, and both should have gone way higher.
6 déc. 2020 à 16 h 16
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
yep, and both should have gone way higher.


I agree. I was very happy to see Perfetti land with the Jets.
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6 déc. 2020 à 16 h 21
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I agree. I was very happy to see Perfetti land with the Jets.


Before the draft i was worried the Kings would mess up and take Stutzle like that weird rumour that made no sense and it would leave Byfield and Perfetti/Rossi to the Sens. thank god they ended up with neither
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6 déc. 2020 à 16 h 23
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Before the draft i was worried the Kings would mess up and take Stutzle like that weird rumour that made no sense and it would leave Byfield and Perfetti/Rossi to the Sens. thank god they ended up with neither


Ya, the sens drafting Sanderson made no sense whatsoever.
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6 déc. 2020 à 16 h 29
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
good luck getting Marner from the Leafs


Are you serious? Did you not pick up on the fact he was saying you can't get Perfetti from the Wild because Perfetti is a Jet? The Wild took Rossi with the 9th overall, not Perfetti... who went 10th overall to Winnipeg.

Are you okay? Do you need caffeine or something?

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I don't care if Marner is better than Fiala, or if the value isn't enough. It's not a good deal for Minnesota either here you know. Marner is overpaid and we couldn't afford his contract without sacrificing future contracts of other important core roster players in the future when they're due for a raise. The Parise, Suter, Zuccarello contracts effectively block that from happening.

Simply put, a Marner to the Wild trade doesn't work. Not without significant retention, and I highly doubt Leafs fans want that.

Additionally, Dumba to the leaves was probably viable 6 months ago. Not so much anymore. Brodin doesn't make any more sense than Dumba, as you already have Muzzin and O'Reilly on the left. Unless one of them can play the right, Brodin likely plays the 3rd pairing if he plays the left or 1st pairing if the right and on his offside.

Then throw in that Brodin literally just signed an extension that includes a full NMC, he isn't going anywhere. And he certainly isn't available.
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6 déc. 2020 à 16 h 34
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Are you serious? Did you not pick up on the fact he was saying you can't get Perfetti from the Wild because Perfetti is a Jet? The Wild took Rossi with the 9th overall, not Perfetti... who went 10th overall to Winnipeg.

Are you okay? Do you need caffeine or something?

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I don't care if Marner is better than Fiala, or if the value isn't enough. It's not a good deal for Minnesota either here you know. Marner is overpaid and we couldn't afford his contract without sacrificing future contracts of other important core roster players in the future when they're due for a raise. The Parise, Suter, Zuccarello contracts effectively block that from happening.

Simply put, a Marner to the Wild trade doesn't work. Not without significant retention, and I highly doubt Leafs fans want that.

Additionally, Dumba to the leaves was probably viable 6 months ago. Not so much anymore. Brodin doesn't make any more sense than Dumba, as you already have Muzzin and O'Reilly on the left. Unless one of them can play the right, Brodin likely plays the 3rd pairing if he plays the left or 1st pairing if the right and on his offside.

Then throw in that Brodin literally just signed an extension that includes a full NMC, he isn't going anywhere. And he certainly isn't available.


if you read the thread you'd see that yes, i did indeed mix up their names. oh no what a sin.
And i dont really care if the wild can sqeeze in Marner's contract, I dont want to trade him. But if the Wild want Marner , then it's going to cost them. The Leafs would want Brodin and Rossi to start and if that doesnt work for Minnesota then oh well it doesnt work. No skin off my back.
6 déc. 2020 à 16 h 51
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if you read the thread you'd see that yes, i did indeed mix up their names. oh no what a sin.
And i dont really care if the wild can sqeeze in Marner's contract, I dont want to trade him. But if the Wild want Marner , then it's going to cost them. The Leafs would want Brodin and Rossi to start and if that doesnt work for Minnesota then oh well it doesnt work. No skin off my back.


I started writing my post before you had your little conversation so I didn't see the comments until after posting. I'm not what you'd call the fastest texter while using a smartphone, sue me.

That's also great news because we don't want him or his contract. Certainly not at that cost, even if that was his value. It hurts us more during the long run than if we keep who we have now. Giving up our best defenseman on top of our future 1C, you know the guy we've only waited our entire franchise history for, is a non starter.

Marner or not, he isn't worth our 1C.

So it's great to know it's no skin off your back. Because not trading for Marner is certainly none off of mine.

Have a wonderful rest of your day!
6 déc. 2020 à 16 h 54
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Brodin++ for Marner


He's a LHD
6 déc. 2020 à 17 h 9
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I started writing my post before you had your little conversation so I didn't see the comments until after posting. I'm not what you'd call the fastest texter while using a smartphone, sue me.

That's also great news because we don't want him or his contract. Certainly not at that cost, even if that was his value. It hurts us more during the long run than if we keep who we have now. Giving up our best defenseman on top of our future 1C, you know the guy we've only waited our entire franchise history for, is a non starter.

Marner or not, he isn't worth our 1C.

So it's great to know it's no skin off your back. Because not trading for Marner is certainly none off of mine.

Have a wonderful rest of your day!


cool beans, never said minny would do it
6 déc. 2020 à 17 h 34
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Quoting: LeafsFan4Ever34
He's a LHD


Can play both sides and is amazing defensively.
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6 déc. 2020 à 17 h 49
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It really cheeses me that Toronto HAS Marner and you ungrateful Leafs fans spend your time slinging him around the League like he's some hash, while I have to console myself with fantasizing about sending Jeff Carter somewhere.
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6 déc. 2020 à 17 h 58
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Marner starts with Brodin+ Perfetti and goes from there


Wild don't have Perfetti I believe the Jets have those rights. Never mind this has been covered.
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6 déc. 2020 à 18 h 6
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Mitch Marner is about the last young big name the Wild should be going after
 
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