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4 déc. 2020 à 23 h 9
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Winnipeg would never
4 déc. 2020 à 23 h 10
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I don't see why Winnipeg would want to do it, but if it makes you happy.
4 déc. 2020 à 23 h 14
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Winnipeg would never


Montreal would never! Conner is great don't get me wrong but Romanov is our ONLY good LHD this season. Chiarot is ok, Mete and Kulak are passable and Edmundson will be another Alzner most likely. I hate MB and his stupid depth D signings.
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4 déc. 2020 à 23 h 19
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Habs fans will ask for Scheifele too if they have to give up Alex Romanov, the greatest hockey player of all time.
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4 déc. 2020 à 23 h 20
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I was expecting Phil Kessel to be involved here in some way
4 déc. 2020 à 23 h 21
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I love Phil.
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4 déc. 2020 à 23 h 25
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Montreal would never! Conner is great don't get me wrong but Romanov is our ONLY good LHD this season. Chiarot is ok, Mete and Kulak are passable and Edmundson will be another Alzner most likely. I hate MB and his stupid depth D signings.


MTL needs a goalscorer. This addresses that. MTL also has
Guhle and Norlander. Two top 4 projected LHD prospects. They would be fine if they moved Romanov. They can use Chiarot and Mete/Kulak/Edmunson till their LHD prospects are ready
4 déc. 2020 à 23 h 36
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MTL needs a goalscorer. This addresses that. MTL also has
Guhle and Norlander. Two top 4 projected LHD prospects. They would be fine if they moved Romanov. They can use Chiarot and Mete/Kulak/Edmunson till their LHD prospects are ready


Guhle and Norlinder are 1-3 years away from being NHL ready. Romanov is ready now, we did not make all of those signings and trades for to miss the playoffs because our LHD sucks again. Romanov is here to stay that's the bottom line. If Winnipeg wants a LHD prospect they can have one of Struble or Harris + 2nd instead of Romanov.
4 déc. 2020 à 23 h 40
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Habs fans will ask for Scheifele too if they have to give up Alex Romanov, the greatest hockey player of all time.


I think you are a little jaded that your team passed on Romanov and Montreal took him! Anyway it's not that he is the "best player ever" it is however that he is our best LHD since Sergachev and Habs fans don't want to make the same mistake with him that MB made with Sergachev! It's just that simple!
4 déc. 2020 à 23 h 40
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Guhle and Norlinder are 1-3 years away from being NHL ready. Romanov is ready now, we did not make all of those signings and trades for to miss the playoffs because our LHD sucks again. Romanov is here to stay that's the bottom line. If Winnipeg wants a LHD prospect they can have one of Struble or Harris + 2nd instead of Romanov.


Winnipeg declines this trade whether it’s romanov or struble + a 2nd. That’s pretty insulting tbh.
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4 déc. 2020 à 23 h 42
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Winnipeg declines this trade whether it’s romanov or struble + a 2nd. That’s pretty insulting tbh.


I am not disagreeing that Winnipeg declines, I am just saying that Montreal wouldn't propose it in the first place.
4 déc. 2020 à 23 h 43
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Winnipeg would never


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I just clicked on this, b/c of the title, I thought you wanted to trade for Kessel. Kessel is the only player in the NHL that can be refereed to as “a hotdog” now!!
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4 déc. 2020 à 23 h 54
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Montreal would never! Conner is great don't get me wrong but Romanov is our ONLY good LHD this season. Chiarot is ok, Mete and Kulak are passable and Edmundson will be another Alzner most likely. I hate MB and his stupid depth D signings.


What?? Lol. Montreal’s brass would all kill their 1st born child if The Jets would do this trade.

Connor has scored 30 goals plus in his last 3 years. And is only 24 years old. Tatar is on an expiring contract. Most likely they lose him anyways. And yes, Ramonov has potential and is a good D prospect. But he hasn’t proven anything. 60% of 1st round picks are out of the NHL before 5 years or never even make it. Its obviously goes down for 2nd rounders. And that’s not even considering the ones that make the NHL and play 5 average seasons. I would take Connor, the proven NHL player. And so would every GM ever!!
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5 déc. 2020 à 0 h 49
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If Winnipeg were to trade Kyle Connor, there are really no good reasons to other than to play Laine on the first line, I hope they would send him home to Detroit, to play with his best friend Dylan Larkin, could see the deal somewhat structured around Mantha
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Take far more then Tatar and Romanov to get Kyle Connor out of Winnipeg. That trade is a royal joke.
5 déc. 2020 à 10 h 30
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What?? Lol. Montreal’s brass would all kill their 1st born child if The Jets would do this trade.

Connor has scored 30 goals plus in his last 3 years. And is only 24 years old. Tatar is on an expiring contract. Most likely they lose him anyways. And yes, Ramonov has potential and is a good D prospect. But he hasn’t proven anything. 60% of 1st round picks are out of the NHL before 5 years or never even make it. Its obviously goes down for 2nd rounders. And that’s not even considering the ones that make the NHL and play 5 average seasons. I would take Connor, the proven NHL player. And so would every GM ever!!


I think you missed my point. MB and CJ love Romanov and even though he has not played in the NHL he has played in the KHL which is the second best league in the world so there really is no fear that he will have a long NHL career. That is why Montreal will never propose this trade.
5 déc. 2020 à 11 h 18
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Vancouver agrees to this trade!
5 déc. 2020 à 11 h 33
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I can't see why the Jets would do this, they're flush with LHD prospects already, trading a guy that would of gotten 40 goals for another LHD prospect makes zero sense and on top of that to trade one of the very few center prospects they have as well in Gustafsson makes it even worse.
5 déc. 2020 à 12 h 35
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I think you missed my point. MB and CJ love Romanov and even though he has not played in the NHL he has played in the KHL which is the second best league in the world so there really is no fear that he will have a long NHL career. That is why Montreal will never propose this trade.


It’s still potential bud. A lot of players are can’t miss and do. It’s all potential until he proves it in the NHL.

The KHL is so different than the NHL. Especially for defenders. The KHL games go the whole game without penalties some time. And they never use the boards. Very rarely. Because the ice surface is bigger. They don’t have to. It’s all about speed in the KHL b/c the ice surface is bigger too. Completely different from the NHL which is more Physical. I’m not saying he’s not a good prospect though. And Good to be positive!! But it’s just potential until he proves it in the NHL. Like I said, any GM would take the proven NHL player that is still young.
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It’s still potential bud. A lot of players are can’t miss and do. It’s all potential until he proves it in the NHL.

The KHL is so different than the NHL. Especially for defenders. The KHL games go the whole game without penalties some time. And they never use the boards. Very rarely. Because the ice surface is bigger. They don’t have to. It’s all about speed in the KHL b/c the ice surface is bigger too. Completely different from the NHL which is more Physical. I’m not saying he’s not a good prospect though. And Good to be positive!! But it’s just potential until he proves it in the NHL. Like I said, any GM would take the proven NHL player that is still young.


1. Watch some of his KHL games he is physical and already uses the boards more than his speed (which he also pissesses)

2. He already showed in the bubble his abilities vs NHL players (I know it was practices and blah blah blah) but he showed he wasn't out of place.

3. No GM is going to weaken the entire team to add to a roster spot that really isn't a weakness. It would do more harm than good to move Romanov and add Conner. If we could add Conner without weakening the rest of the roster I would be all for it but the fact of the matter is we can't, so why try.
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1. Watch some of his KHL games he is physical and already uses the boards more than his speed (which he also pissesses)

2. He already showed in the bubble his abilities vs NHL players (I know it was practices and blah blah blah) but he showed he wasn't out of place.

3. No GM is going to weaken the entire team to add to a roster spot that really isn't a weakness. It would do more harm than good to move Romanov and add Conner. If we could add Conner without weakening the rest of the roster I would be all for it but the fact of the matter is we can't, so why try.


Good deal!!! I hope he works out!! I don’t doubt he’s a good prospect. But like I said, Connor is proven. You 100% know what u are gonna get. You can say whatever u want about Romanov, that’s great!! But it’s all potential until he does it in the NHL.
5 déc. 2020 à 19 h 21
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Good deal!!! I hope he works out!! I don’t doubt he’s a good prospect. But like I said, Connor is proven. You 100% know what u are gonna get. You can say whatever u want about Romanov, that’s great!! But it’s all potential until he does it in the NHL.


Do you really though? I am going to throw a few names out just to prove a point. Johnsson, Skinner, Drouin and Kovalchuk. When Tampa got Johnsson he was a great scorer that most teams envied now they can't give him away, same with Skinner in Buffalo. Drouin had been in the NHL and was a proven player and Sergachev was only a prospect and look at how that turned out. Finally when Kovalchuk was signed by L.A. they felt he was going to be a key piece going forward then 1.5 years later they terminated his contract and the Habs signed him for league minimum. All of these guys were " proven" players at the NHL level and none of them worked out for their respective teams. It's not just about being proven it is also about team needs and fit within the system.
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Do you really though? I am going to throw a few names out just to prove a point. Johnsson, Skinner, Drouin and Kovalchuk. When Tampa got Johnsson he was a great scorer that most teams envied now they can't give him away, same with Skinner in Buffalo. Drouin had been in the NHL and was a proven player and Sergachev was only a prospect and look at how that turned out. Finally when Kovalchuk was signed by L.A. they felt he was going to be a key piece going forward then 1.5 years later they terminated his contract and the Habs signed him for league minimum. All of these guys were " proven" players at the NHL level and none of them worked out for their respective teams. It's not just about being proven it is also about team needs and fit within the system.


Yep, proven player bud. Have done it in the NHL. If a player has done it once, they can do it again. It’s not potential anymore.

If a player scores 20 goals in a season. They are a 20 goal scorer. They have done it, proven they can do it. You can’t take that away from them. It’s not a potential 20 goal scorer anymore.

Yes, some players get older and decline and that’s expected to. But that’s not what we are talking about. We are talking about a 24 year old player, with 30 goals plus in the last 3 seasons. You know AROUND what you are gonna get if he stays healthy all year. A prospect, you can say whatever u want, it’s all potential until they prove they can do it in the NHL, on the NHL level, against other NHL players, during a full NHL season.

If it was a sure thing or u knew for sure, you should buy lottery tickets too then. Or you’d have a job in the NHL if u were right more than 50% of the time. People get paid a lot of money to do this and have spent their lives scouting, and still 50% success rate on a young athlete is great!!
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What?? Lol. Montreal’s brass would all kill their 1st born child if The Jets would do this trade.

Connor has scored 30 goals plus in his last 3 years. And is only 24 years old. Tatar is on an expiring contract. Most likely they lose him anyways. And yes, Ramonov has potential and is a good D prospect. But he hasn’t proven anything. 60% of 1st round picks are out of the NHL before 5 years or never even make it. Its obviously goes down for 2nd rounders. And that’s not even considering the ones that make the NHL and play 5 average seasons. I would take Connor, the proven NHL player. And so would every GM ever!!


All hearsay but Montreal really values Romanov so theres that. I don't think they trade him and Winnipeg would never offer Connor so this is a pointless debate
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