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Équipe: 2020-21 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 4 déc. 2020
Publié: 4 déc. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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CGY
  1. Carlo, Brandon
  2. Kase, Ondrej
  3. Studnicka, Jack
  4. Vaakanainen, Urho
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
  6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
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BOS
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (SJS)
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BOS
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (OTT)
OTT
  1. Moore, John
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
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4 déc. 2020 à 18 h 19
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Bruins don't do this Calgary trade.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Bruins don't do this Calgary trade.


Why wouldn't you?

You get krejci's flank and then your future top 6 C. I think its a no brainer
4 déc. 2020 à 18 h 31
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Easy no from Calgary
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4 déc. 2020 à 18 h 44
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Imo DeBrusk would have to be part if the trade for Lindholm
4 déc. 2020 à 18 h 49
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Why wouldn't you?

You get krejci's flank and then your future top 6 C. I think its a no brainer


Look at how much you give up for a 2nd line C and a 2nd pair D.
-Middle-six RW
-Top4 RD
-Top4 LD prospect
-Top6 C prospect
-2021 1st
-2022 2nd

Bruins need a 1C, not another 2C for the future. And Hanifin-Carlo is close in terms of trade value; then you give 5 worthy assets for one player who isn't even elite? It's a no-brainer... to decline.
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4 déc. 2020 à 19 h 0
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Quoting: datdude
Why wouldn't you?

You get krejci's flank and then your future top 6 C. I think its a no brainer


No no, its an unmitigated disaster.
Carlo is a core piece of the team, and the best d man in this trade.
Yes, Lindholm had one awesome year, and he’d be a nice get, but not at the rate of:
Teams second best d man who happens to be 23 years old.
The teams second line RW.
The teams top two prospects (two guys, that rightly or wrongly, Sweeney refused to discuss in trade for mark stone)
A first and a second.


Puke.

I like the ritchie move. The Moore trade seems a little heavy.
4 déc. 2020 à 19 h 25
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Look at how much you give up for a 2nd line C and a 2nd pair D.
-Middle-six RW
-Top4 RD
-Top4 LD prospect
-Top6 C prospect
-2021 1st
-2022 2nd

Bruins need a 1C, not another 2C for the future. And Hanifin-Carlo is close in terms of trade value; then you give 5 worthy assets for one player who isn't even elite? It's a no-brainer... to decline.


You're over-valuing your prospects
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4 déc. 2020 à 19 h 36
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You're over-valuing your prospects


He said they were a top 6 center prospect and a top 4 d prospect...that’s about as cautious as conservative as he can possibly be.

I just can’t understand reading that statement and saying what you said.
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4 déc. 2020 à 19 h 41
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Look at how much you give up for a 2nd line C and a 2nd pair D.
-Middle-six RW
-Top4 RD
-Top4 LD prospect
-Top6 C prospect
-2021 1st
-2022 2nd

Bruins need a 1C, not another 2C for the future. And Hanifin-Carlo is close in terms of trade value; then you give 5 worthy assets for one player who isn't even elite? It's a no-brainer... to decline.


You severely undervalue how good Lindholm is
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4 déc. 2020 à 19 h 57
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You're over-valuing your prospects


No, I'm not, look at their scouting report and what is their potential. Studnicka has the potential to be a 2C, Vaakanainen 2nd pair LD.

Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
You severely undervalue how good Lindholm is


No. I'm not sure if it was you but I had this talk about how good Lindholm is, I know Flames fans are pretty high on him and it would take an overpay to move him. Fine, they are some players like him that have more value for the team than their actual market value. Lindholm is a great two-way player but he is a 2nd liner. On a three-year scale, Lindholm has been a great 2nd line player, that's it. I'm not giving 4 important assets for him. (Anyways, Flames won't move him and we don't need him)
4 déc. 2020 à 20 h 13
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I know we were told not to say this, but this deserves it

Bruins LAUGH at that Flames and John Moore deal. Those are just both so bad NOBODY could argue that i am being mean in saying that.

Ill defend myself tho just so u know im not being rude

Carlo+Urho is already worth MUCH more than Hanafin
Studnicka+Kase is already worth MUCH MUCH more than Lindholm,
Then you added a bruins 1st and 2nd.

And for John Moore - even if u WANT TO (though its wrong) call John Moore a cap dump. It would be him and a 6th for a 7th. NOT this crazy trade.
4 déc. 2020 à 20 h 15
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You're over-valuing your prospects


HAHAHA ok this is just someone that needs to do an ounce of research
4 déc. 2020 à 20 h 16
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No, I'm not, look at their scouting report and what is their potential. Studnicka has the potential to be a 2C, Vaakanainen 2nd pair LD.



No. I'm not sure if it was you but I had this talk about how good Lindholm is, I know Flames fans are pretty high on him and it would take an overpay to move him. Fine, they are some players like him that have more value for the team than their actual market value. Lindholm is a great two-way player but he is a 2nd liner. On a three-year scale, Lindholm has been a great 2nd line player, that's it. I'm not giving 4 important assets for him. (Anyways, Flames won't move him and we don't need him)


It definitely wasn't me you had that conversation with but I am curious how you determined he is a 2nd line player? He lead Calgary in goals this year and was 3rd in overall points. The year prior he was 4th in goals and again 3rd in overall points. He should prove once again this year that he is a top 4 player on the team. Sure in Boston he is a 2nd line player behind the perfection line but that doesn't make him a 2nd line player on average across the league.
4 déc. 2020 à 20 h 17
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I know we were told not to say this, but this deserves it

Bruins LAUGH at that Flames and John Moore deal. Those are just both so bad NOBODY could argue that i am being mean in saying that.

Ill defend myself tho just so u know im not being rude

Carlo+Urho is already worth MUCH more than Hanafin
Studnicka+Kase is already worth MUCH MUCH more than Lindholm,
Then you added a bruins 1st and 2nd.

And for John Moore - even if u WANT TO (though its wrong) call John Moore a cap dump. It would be him and a 6th for a 7th. NOT this crazy trade.


LMAO you can't be serious
4 déc. 2020 à 20 h 18
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
LMAO you can't be serious


Ok sorry but am i wrong that its a terrible trade

My apologies for under rating lindholm. But anyone with half a brain could tell that this trade sucks

Kase+studnicka = Lindholm in value (and thats just being realistic)
4 déc. 2020 à 20 h 22
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
LMAO you can't be serious


Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Ok sorry but am i wrong that its a terrible trade

My apologies for under rating lindholm. But anyone with half a brain could tell that this trade sucks

Kase+studnicka = Lindholm in value (and thats just being realistic)


lmao where did u go man.

Again that was MY MISTAKE with my rating of Lindholm. I actually really like him (and usually trade for him in NHL) but I didnt realize he was a top line guy...

So fine a top 6 RW and a top 6 potential C is definitely equal to Linholm (**** it even throw in the 2nd if you want).

But the rest of the trade is so off (Carlo +Urho + 1st for Hanafin? HAHAHAH). that it doesnt even matter. a distugsting trade overall lol
4 déc. 2020 à 20 h 23
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Ok sorry but am i wrong that its a terrible trade

My apologies for under rating lindholm. But anyone with half a brain could tell that this trade sucks


Ok first of all your first comparison makes no sense since you just added Vaak for no reason
Carlo equals Hanifin
Lindholm probably equals Studnicka + Vaak + 1st + Kase

So basically Boston is adding a 2nd for proven talent

Flames don't do this trade either because it just sells off their 2nd most valuable player for downgrades and futures
4 déc. 2020 à 20 h 24
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Ok first of all your first comparison makes no sense since you just added Vaak for no reason
Carlo equals Hanifin
Lindholm probably equals Studnicka + Vaak + 1st + Kase


Yeah thats just wrong.
Again i admitted where i was wrong, but u gotta do the same
Not even close
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4 déc. 2020 à 20 h 27
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
It definitely wasn't me you had that conversation with but I am curious how you determined he is a 2nd line player? He lead Calgary in goals this year and was 3rd in overall points. The year prior he was 4th in goals and again 3rd in overall points. He should prove once again this year that he is a top 4 player on the team. Sure in Boston he is a 2nd line player behind the perfection line but that doesn't make him a 2nd line player on average across the league.


You look at his production and market value and then compare it to the rest of the league.
Most teams have elite players on their first line and then good/great players on the 2nd. That's the way I see him, I place him on an elite team and look at his role. He likely plays on the 1st for most but as I said, personally I rather have elite players on the 1st line rather than great players (if I have the option).
I guess this is an opinion so you can call him a 1st liner if you want.
4 déc. 2020 à 20 h 28
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Ok first of all your first comparison makes no sense since you just added Vaak for no reason
Carlo equals Hanifin
Lindholm probably equals Studnicka + Vaak + 1st + Kase

So basically Boston is adding a 2nd for proven talent

Flames don't do this trade either because it just sells off their 2nd most valuable player for downgrades and futures


Again, this is too much.
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4 déc. 2020 à 20 h 28
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
lmao where did u go man.

Again that was MY MISTAKE with my rating of Lindholm. I actually really like him (and usually trade for him in NHL) but I didnt realize he was a top line guy...

So fine a top 6 RW and a top 6 potential C is definitely equal to Linholm (**** it even throw in the 2nd if you want).

But the rest of the trade is so off (Carlo +Urho + 1st for Hanafin? HAHAHAH). that it doesnt even matter. a distugsting trade overall lol


Kase is a middle 6 player with major injury prone issues, his value is about a mid-late 2nd. Vaak is a decent prospect with some top 4 upside but his ceiling is about a #4. Studnicka is important to the bruins because he is their best center prospect, that doesnt however make him an amazing center prospect. He's solid but probably 2C caliber.
4 déc. 2020 à 20 h 30
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Again, this is too much.


I understand Why Boston wouldnt do the trade, I am saying Calgary wouldn't either. It doesn't help them at all
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Ok first of all your first comparison makes no sense since you just added Vaak for no reason
Carlo equals Hanifin
Lindholm probably equals Studnicka + Vaak + 1st + Kase

So basically Boston is adding a 2nd for proven talent

Flames don't do this trade either because it just sells off their 2nd most valuable player for downgrades and futures



Lindholm is one of the most underrated players in the league. But he is not worth that. Seriously undervaluing Studnicka and Urho. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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4 déc. 2020 à 20 h 40
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Kase is a middle 6 player with major injury prone issues, his value is about a mid-late 2nd. Vaak is a decent prospect with some top 4 upside but his ceiling is about a #4. Studnicka is important to the bruins because he is their best center prospect, that doesnt however make him an amazing center prospect. He's solid but probably 2C caliber.


Quoting: Gofnut999
Lindholm is one of the most underrated players in the league. But he is not worth that. Seriously undervaluing Studnicka and Urho. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Dude u wanna call us out for undervaluing Lindholm and overvaluing our guys, but did u even think about the fact that you might be (are) undervaluing the bruins prospects.
So again, bruins clearly reject that trade. you can do it in NHL 21 if u wanted to, but not real life
4 déc. 2020 à 20 h 40
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Lindholm is one of the most underrated players in the league. But he is not worth that. Seriously undervaluing Studnicka and Urho. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Am I wrong to consider Vaak a #4-#5 and Studnicka a low end 1C to solid 2C? Again they are still just prospect, and that would be roughly the price to acquire a a top line player on a steal of a contract locked up long term
 
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