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28 nov. 2020 à 18 h 6
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More than possible?
361K in cap space, a second miracle LTIR, a miracle contract for barzal, and you’re saying it’s more than possible? Yeesh.
28 nov. 2020 à 18 h 10
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More than possible?
361K in cap space, a second miracle LTIR, a miracle contract for barzal, and you’re saying it’s more than possible? Yeesh.


That Barzal contract for Barzal isn’t a “miracle contract.” I do agree that it’s highly unlikely Ladd also goes on LTIR tho
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28 nov. 2020 à 18 h 21
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
More than possible?
361K in cap space, a second miracle LTIR, a miracle contract for barzal, and you’re saying it’s more than possible? Yeesh.


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That Barzal contract for Barzal isn’t a “miracle contract.” I do agree that it’s highly unlikely Ladd also goes on LTIR tho


there are rumblings on HF from people who know Ladd personally that he does not expect to play this year - poke around the Isles board long enough and you'll find the posters (and their credentials). Dude has played 30 NHL games in the last two years - it's not a "miracle LTIR" either, it's an old beat up player on a team run by a GM who has a long history of putting old beat up players on LTIR

As for the 300k in cap space, send one of the healthy scratches down if that's not enough room for you. I also made a point of paying Hoffman at the most I can see him realistically getting in this climate - as well as Greene. Point was just to show we have room to carry 23 and not go cheap on anyone if Ladd LTIRs
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28 nov. 2020 à 18 h 22
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there are rumblings on HF from people who know Ladd personally that he does not expect to play this year. Dude has played 30 NHL games in the last two years - it's not a "miracle LTIR" either, it's an old beat up player on a team run by a GM who has a long history of putting old beat up players on LTIR

As for the 300k in cap space, send one of the healthy scratches down. Point was just to show we have room


More than possible is a ridiculous misnomer, no matter what your buddies on HF (did you really just say that?) say.
28 nov. 2020 à 18 h 26
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More than possible is a ridiculous misnomer, no matter what your buddies on HF (did you really just say that?) say.


it's...certainly not ridiculous. sorry if this throws a wrench into anything you were expecting.
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28 nov. 2020 à 18 h 31
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
More than possible?
361K in cap space, a second miracle LTIR, a miracle contract for barzal, and you’re saying it’s more than possible? Yeesh.


Ladd was pretty widely expected to hit LTIR this year - if anything, the Boychuk LTIR was the "miracle" (as far as cap is concerned). I don't expect every fan to be up on every little thing that's going on with other teams, but you're pretty clearly out of your depth here
28 nov. 2020 à 18 h 45
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Ladd was pretty widely expected to hit LTIR this year - if anything, the Boychuk LTIR was the "miracle" (as far as cap is concerned). I don't expect every fan to be up on every little thing that's going on with other teams, but you're pretty clearly out of your depth here


Says the guy who’s saying that a big contract going on LTIR, barzal signing a low ball deal, and Hoffman settling on NYI is more than possible. Sounds like you live on a different planet buddy, hows the weather there?
28 nov. 2020 à 18 h 46
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it's...certainly not ridiculous. sorry if this throws a wrench into anything you were expecting.


So what’s more than possible? I think logical english speaking people would think that means probable, likely, somewhere around there. Is that what you’re trying to say?
28 nov. 2020 à 19 h 19
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Says the guy who’s saying that a big contract going on LTIR, barzal signing a low ball deal, and Hoffman settling on NYI is more than possible. Sounds like you live on a different planet buddy, hows the weather there?


Barzal is not getting much more than 7 mill on a 2-3 year deal.
28 nov. 2020 à 19 h 39
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Says the guy who’s saying that a big contract going on LTIR, barzal signing a low ball deal, and Hoffman settling on NYI is more than possible. Sounds like you live on a different planet buddy, hows the weather there?


Lmao god you're not too bright are you. I'm gonna do my best and spell this out for you one last time in case you have a couple of working brain cells floating around in there somewhere. I'm saying it's possible to run a full 23 man roster (not a requirement!) under the cap if Ladd LTIRs. 100% possible - I literally showed it. There's numbers next to the player's names, you add them up, the final number is under 81.5M - that's how this site works. You'd think you understood that after more than 15,000 posts but apparently not... so here goes nothing!

-Big contract going on LTIR, small contract going on LTIR... doesn't matter if the guy can't skate. Ladd's knees are totally spent - he is not expected to be able to pass a physical at this point. Like I said before, the Boychuk thing was somewhat a surprise - this one wouldn't be a surprise to anyone who has any clue who Andrew Ladd actually is.

- This is not a lowball for Barzal - literally every reputable news outlet has projected for a bridge deal between 6.5-7M - around what Braden Point got when the cap wasn't flat. If you wanna go out on your own and say "Barzal is getting 10M because I say so", be my guest - but understand you're contradicting literally every piece of journalism on the subject post flat-cap announcement. Ryan Pulock came out after he signed his deal and said he and Barzal were taking discounts to keep the core together - you know more than him too?

- Yeah, who knows what team he's going to settle upon - certainly not any of us! Something tells me he could have some interest in playing on a team that went to the ECF, with a brand new state of the art practice facility, and (if Ladd LTIRs - which, in case you're still missing, is the entire premise of this entire post) can pay him more than just about any other contending team in the league - not to mention they have a pretty good coach!

Any more questions/concerns?
28 nov. 2020 à 19 h 44
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
That Barzal contract for Barzal isn’t a “miracle contract.” I do agree that it’s highly unlikely Ladd also goes on LTIR tho

Ya maybe.
28 nov. 2020 à 20 h 19
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Lmao god you're not too bright are you. I'm gonna do my best and spell this out for you one last time in case you have a couple of working brain cells floating around in there somewhere. I'm saying it's possible to run a full 23 man roster (not a requirement!) under the cap if Ladd LTIRs. 100% possible - I literally showed it. There's numbers next to the player's names, you add them up, the final number is under 81.5M - that's how this site works. You'd think you understood that after more than 15,000 posts but apparently not... so here goes nothing!

-Big contract going on LTIR, small contract going on LTIR... doesn't matter if the guy can't skate. Ladd's knees are totally spent - he is not expected to be able to pass a physical at this point. Like I said before, the Boychuk thing was somewhat a surprise - this one wouldn't be a surprise to anyone who has any clue who Andrew Ladd actually is.

- This is not a lowball for Barzal - literally every reputable news outlet has projected for a bridge deal between 6.5-7M - around what Braden Point got when the cap wasn't flat. If you wanna go out on your own and say "Barzal is getting 10M because I say so", be my guest - but understand you're contradicting literally every piece of journalism on the subject post flat-cap announcement. Ryan Pulock came out after he signed his deal and said he and Barzal were taking discounts to keep the core together - you know more than him too?

- Yeah, who knows what team he's going to settle upon - certainly not any of us! Something tells me he could have some interest in playing on a team that went to the ECF, with a brand new state of the art practice facility, and (if Ladd LTIRs - which, in case you're still missing, is the entire premise of this entire post) can pay him more than just about any other contending team in the league - not to mention they have a pretty good coach!

Any more questions/concerns?


You said more than possible. Perhaps this is just an instance of you choosing your words poorly.
28 nov. 2020 à 21 h 2
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You said more than possible. Perhaps this is just an instance of you choosing your words poorly.


...perhaaaaaps this is just an instance of you not actually knowing what words mean? Maybe you're thinking of the word "plausible" - that might almost give your argument some sense of a point. But I didn't say it was plausible. I said it was more than possible to fit him under the cap -which it is, because I showed it on paper with numbers and the isles carrying 23 players during a season where most teams are expected to keep 21. I think most logical English speaking people would agree to that.

But seriously - after all that, that's your comeback? Weak post bud, hope you can do a little better next time
28 nov. 2020 à 21 h 8
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...perhaaaaaps this is just an instance of you not actually knowing what words mean? Maybe you're thinking of the word "plausible" - that might almost give your argument some sense of a point. But I didn't say it was plausible. I said it was more than possible to fit him under the cap -which it is, because I showed it on paper with numbers and the isles carrying 23 players during a season where most teams are expected to keep 21. I think most logical English speaking people would agree to that.

But seriously - after all that, that's your comeback? Weak post bud, hope you can do a little better next time


More than possible means that it is something greater than possible.
28 nov. 2020 à 21 h 14
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More than possible means that it is something greater than possible.


Cool so I guess you're the grammar police patrolling cap friendly? It's a turn of phrase. Grow up and take the L
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28 nov. 2020 à 21 h 20
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Says the guy who’s saying that a big contract going on LTIR, barzal signing a low ball deal, and Hoffman settling on NYI is more than possible. Sounds like you live on a different planet buddy, hows the weather there?


Barzy will sign 3x6.5 hoffman wont get more than 5 max and greene will get 1. Plus extra cash bc komarov could get sent down and bring up koivula.
Hoffman wants a ring like every player and he knows he brings what the isles are missing. Hes not a perfect fit but he would be a help and he knows with TB disintegrating the isles have a hell of a chance this year.
28 nov. 2020 à 21 h 33
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Barzy will sign 3x6.5 hoffman wont get more than 5 max and greene will get 1.


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28 nov. 2020 à 21 h 33
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Barzy will sign 3x6.5 hoffman wont get more than 5 max and greene will get 1. Plus extra cash bc komarov could get sent down and bring up koivula.
Hoffman wants a ring like every player and he knows he brings what the isles are missing. Hes not a perfect fit but he would be a help and he knows with TB disintegrating the isles have a hell of a chance this year.


I’m calling Hoffman to the preds.
28 nov. 2020 à 21 h 34
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Cool so I guess you're the grammar police patrolling cap friendly? It's a turn of phrase. Grow up and take the L


If you think anyone is taking an L on an anonymous Internet forum, I think you have a lot to re-evaluate.

If you wanted to say that it was possible that the islanders could fit Hoffman, that’s a totally reasonable statement.
28 nov. 2020 à 21 h 37
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I’m calling Hoffman to the preds.


Not saying hes coming to the islanders. Would rather duclair who will also be cheaper but its not unlikely hoffman ends up on the island.
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28 nov. 2020 à 21 h 48
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If you think anyone is taking an L on an anonymous Internet forum, I think you have a lot to re-evaluate.

If you wanted to say that it was possible that the islanders could fit Hoffman, that’s a totally reasonable statement.


Yeah? What are these many things you think I need to re-evalute based on saying you're wrong and you should accept it? And for the record - that IS what I said. multiple times. Just look up! work on your reading comprehension or maybe consider not responding to posts
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28 nov. 2020 à 22 h 7
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Yeah? What are these many things you think I need to re-evalute based on saying you're wrong and you should accept it? And for the record - that IS what I said. multiple times. Just look up! work on your reading comprehension or maybe consider not responding to posts


So you messed up the title?
28 nov. 2020 à 22 h 13
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So you messed up the title?


starting to understand how you have so many posts
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28 nov. 2020 à 22 h 14
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starting to understand how you have so many posts


Starting to wish you had fewer.
28 nov. 2020 à 22 h 17
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Starting to wish you had fewer.


I can understand your frustration, logic and your brain don't seem to mesh so well
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