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Trading for McDavid- Semi Realistic

Créé par: capfriendlyaccount
Équipe: 2020-21 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 26 nov. 2020
Publié: 26 nov. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
The Avs are probably the only team in the league that could pull this off without running into significant cap issues and have enough value to trade. They still look like very serious cup contenders here, and if they could keep this team together, they would be the next dynasty.
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RFAANSCAP HIT
1700 000 $
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1800 000 $
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EDM
  1. Byram, Bowen
  2. Girard, Samuel
  3. Kaut, Martin
  4. Rantanen, Mikko
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (COL)
  6. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (COL)
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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26 nov. 2020 à 16 h 58
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First time he would be on a winning team
26 nov. 2020 à 17 h 4
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Thats a hillarious trade. Honestly, that is fair value for Mcdavid.
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26 nov. 2020 à 17 h 9
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Thats a hillarious trade. Honestly, that is fair value for Mcdavid.


Thanks! And what makes it so funny?
26 nov. 2020 à 17 h 16
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Thanks! And what makes it so funny?


Just cause it would be so crazy if it ever happened
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26 nov. 2020 à 17 h 21
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Wow, the first McDavid trade I've seen thats actually close and is semi-realistic. I think the Avs are the only team in the league that could do it. I saw your other ones and they were meh, this is close. Honestly, I think it's a deal from EDM perspective if Kaut is swapped for Newhook and the 3rd is removed. Not sure how the Avs feel about that, but wow thats a haaaaaul and wow does COL ever look like a cup contender. Things could potentially get dicey cap wise next offseason, but nothing Sakic couldn't handle.
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26 nov. 2020 à 17 h 26
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I would want Makar, and also we don’t have the cap.
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26 nov. 2020 à 17 h 31
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26 nov. 2020 à 17 h 35
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Quoting: adlad98
Thats a hillarious trade. Honestly, that is fair value for Mcdavid.


Quoting: tsyls
Wow, the first McDavid trade I've seen thats actually close and is semi-realistic. I think the Avs are the only team in the league that could do it. I saw your other ones and they were meh, this is close. Honestly, I think it's a deal from EDM perspective if Kaut is swapped for Newhook and the 3rd is removed. Not sure how the Avs feel about that, but wow thats a haaaaaul and wow does COL ever look like a cup contender. Things could potentially get dicey cap wise next offseason, but nothing Sakic couldn't handle.


It's not close to fair value. Rantanen is below average without MacKinnon, I doubt he's any better than Puljujarvi. And his contract is a silly overpay. Girard and Byram are good but both are LHD and the Oilers have TONS of LHD. I'm not high on Kaut and the 1st will be a 31st... not even close to fair value for the best player in the world.
26 nov. 2020 à 17 h 39
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Quoting: tsyls
Wow, the first McDavid trade I've seen thats actually close and is semi-realistic. I think the Avs are the only team in the league that could do it. I saw your other ones and they were meh, this is close. Honestly, I think it's a deal from EDM perspective if Kaut is swapped for Newhook and the 3rd is removed. Not sure how the Avs feel about that, but wow thats a haaaaaul and wow does COL ever look like a cup contender. Things could potentially get dicey cap wise next offseason, but nothing Sakic couldn't handle.


Sabres could do it, Eichel +...same with Toronto Matthews +
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26 nov. 2020 à 17 h 47
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It's not close to fair value. Rantanen is below average without MacKinnon, I doubt he's any better than Puljujarvi. And his contract is a silly overpay. Girard and Byram are good but both are LHD and the Oilers have TONS of LHD. I'm not high on Kaut and the 1st will be a 31st... not even close to fair value for the best player in the world.


You doubt rants is any better than jp?

There are hot takes and then there is this, jp hasn’t done a thing in the nhl yet, take the blinders off. Rantanen is a ppg player in this league and JP failed in his first Stint with the oilers. I can’t get over how big of a homer statement that is

Yikes
26 nov. 2020 à 17 h 49
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You doubt rants is any better than jp?

There are hot takes and then there is this, jp hasn’t done a thing in the nhl yet, take the blinders off

Yikes



http://naturalstattrick.com/linestats.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20192020&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&rate=n&team=COL&vteam=ALL&view=wowy&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=2017-10-04&td=2020-04-04&tgp=2000&strict=incl&p1=8478420&p2=8477492&p3=0&p4=0&p5=0

$9.2 mil for that ****? you can keep him. I wouldn't trade JP for MR 1-for-1 - there's this thing called the cap and Rantanen is dead weight at that money.
26 nov. 2020 à 17 h 50
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This proves nothing you know that right.

Then I’d you believe this stuff blindly then Drai is actually an awful player with how poor his defensive metrics are

So what is it...are you agreeing that drai is one of the worst defensive forwards in the league and his impacts on the ice offensive don’t cover how poor he brings a negative value on the ice?
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26 nov. 2020 à 17 h 53
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This proves nothing you know that right.

Then I’d you believe this stuff blindly then Drai is actually an awful player with how poor his defensive metrics are

So what is it, m


Fact: Rantanen doesn't break even without MacKinnon.
Fact: MacKinnon does better without Rantanen's dead weight.
Fact: any player making $9.25M better pull his weight and Rantanen doesn't.

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26 nov. 2020 à 17 h 53
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Then drai has the worse contract in the nhl if you are calling rants dead weight
26 nov. 2020 à 17 h 54
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Fact: Rantanen doesn't break even without MacKinnon.
Fact: MacKinnon does better without Rantanen's dead weight.
Fact: any player making $9.25M better pull his weight and Rantanen doesn't.

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So you can’t admit that drai is awful in the same context
26 nov. 2020 à 17 h 54
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This proves nothing you know that right.

Then I’d you believe this stuff blindly then Drai is actually an awful player with how poor his defensive metrics are

So what is it...are you agreeing that drai is one of the worst defensive forwards in the league and his impacts on the ice offensive don’t cover how poor he brings a negative value on the ice?


http://naturalstattrick.com/linestats.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20192020&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&rate=n&team=EDM&vteam=ALL&view=wowy&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=2019-10-02&td=2020-04-04&tgp=2000&strict=incl&p1=8478402&p2=8477934&p3=0&p4=0&p5=0

One of these is not like the other.

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26 nov. 2020 à 17 h 55
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So you can’t admit that drai is awful in the same context


Keep your overpaid crap. Rants for McDavid is like Edmonton offering Neal for MacKinnon.
26 nov. 2020 à 17 h 56
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You live in a fancy stats word of denial when it comes to your favorite team

If you can’t be critical of drai being a dumpster fire defensively and bringing negative goal impacts when he is on the ice

Then your opinion is irrelevant bc you can’t process this info
26 nov. 2020 à 17 h 57
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Keep your overpaid crap. Rants for McDavid is like Edmonton offering Neal for MacKinnon.


Proving my point that you can’t admit it

You do you man, attacking when you cant even admit the same issues with your teams top players
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26 nov. 2020 à 18 h 13
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Sabres could do it, Eichel +...same with Toronto Matthews +


Yeah but, this is more realistic, also, cap for Toronto doesn’t work long term, they’re already in a god awful spot now, try adding another 1.2m. Yes I know it’s likely that Toronto sends cap back, but idk. I think if this was to happen on edm end, it would be to bolster other positions. They arguably already have 3 top 6 C’s, don’t need to remove one and add another.
26 nov. 2020 à 18 h 14
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Sabres could do it, Eichel +...same with Toronto Matthews +


Yeah, but the Avs are the only team that can make it fit really well. It doesn't really make sense for Toronto and Buffalo since they need more depth, decimating their roster to get McDavid doesn't make sense.
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26 nov. 2020 à 18 h 14
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It should be illegal to have the 2 best players in the league on the same team
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26 nov. 2020 à 18 h 19
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Avs already have a 1C. No point in sacrificing the depth just to fill a role that's already filled.
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26 nov. 2020 à 18 h 27
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Wow, the first McDavid trade I've seen thats actually close and is semi-realistic. I think the Avs are the only team in the league that could do it. I saw your other ones and they were meh, this is close. Honestly, I think it's a deal from EDM perspective if Kaut is swapped for Newhook and the 3rd is removed. Not sure how the Avs feel about that, but wow thats a haaaaaul and wow does COL ever look like a cup contender. Things could potentially get dicey cap wise next offseason, but nothing Sakic couldn't handle.


Thanks! I agree, I think this is the best one in terms of fit from both sides.
In terms of Colorado's cap situation, if you take out the Bellmare, Calvert, and Cole contracts and replace them with three 1.5 million dollar players, you save 4.4 million. Grubauer will probably want a 1.5-2 million dollar raise, and Landeskog will want a 2 million dollar raise. That's 3.5-4 million, so the rest of the money you saved you can use to give a raise to RFA's like Tyson Jost.
The other great thing for the Avs is that when MacKinnon's deal expires in 3 years, Erik Johnson comes off the books.

Man, I'm sounding like an Avs fan even though I'm a Jets fan haha
26 nov. 2020 à 18 h 28
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Avs already have a 1C. No point in sacrificing the depth just to fill a role that's already filled.


Fair enough, I think they could probably afford it though. I think the team above is probably better than what you have right now.
 
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