SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Hopping on the McDavid trend

Créé par: themostleaf33
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 26 nov. 2020
Publié: 26 nov. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
12 250 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (ANA)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (ANA)
ANA
  1. Engvall, Pierre
  2. Kerfoot, Alexander
Détails additionnels:
Any team
2.
EDM
  1. Andersen, Frederik
  2. Marner, Mitchell
  3. Robertson, Nicholas
  4. Sandin, Rasmus
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2021
Logo de TOR
Logo de ANA
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de ANA
Logo de TOR
2022
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
2023
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $81 446 741 $0 $0 $53 259 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 6
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 645 000 $1 645 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
700 000 $700 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
700 000 $700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
874 125 $874 125 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
700 000 $700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1

Code d'intégration

  • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
  • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

Texte intégré

Cliquer pour surligner
26 nov. 2020 à 13 h 25
#1
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mars 2018
Messages: 7,132
Mentions "j'aime": 3,484
I don't know if the trade value is good, but this trade actually hurts the Leafs. They have no need for another number one centre. And Andersen is better than Koskinen.
A better trade for the Leafs would be Matthews + for McDavid.
26 nov. 2020 à 13 h 28
#2
Xx_Zegras46_xX
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: déc. 2019
Messages: 3,960
Mentions "j'aime": 1,658
The value is fair but obviously McDavid doesn’t get moved
26 nov. 2020 à 13 h 28
#3
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2019
Messages: 1,727
Mentions "j'aime": 918
This is similar to the one I did but I think it’s pretty balanced. Honestly, I think the Oilers get more value out of this.
26 nov. 2020 à 13 h 29
#4
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2020
Messages: 4,897
Mentions "j'aime": 1,406
No one wants andersen hes a bust
26 nov. 2020 à 13 h 32
#5
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mars 2019
Messages: 7,990
Mentions "j'aime": 4,210
Not this again...
26 nov. 2020 à 13 h 33
#6
Démarrer sujet
themostleaf33
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: sept. 2020
Messages: 2,144
Mentions "j'aime": 483
Quoting: sens65
I don't know if the trade value is good, but this trade actually hurts the Leafs. They have no need for another number one centre. And Andersen is better than Koskinen.
A better trade for the Leafs would be Matthews + for McDavid.


The idea behind my thought process is to have Matthews and McDavid play together. The chemistry they showed at the World cup 4 years ago has gone unmatched by any others except for maybe the Bruins top line. Just think about it, the best playmaker/player in the league along side a top 3 goal scorer (Ovechkin and Pastranak are the other two), would destroy other teams. They would be almost impossible to stop, and if you put a driving force like Hyman on their wing it's over. No team would be able to defend well against them, except for maybe Werenski and Jones
sens65 a aimé ceci.
26 nov. 2020 à 13 h 35
#7
Démarrer sujet
themostleaf33
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: sept. 2020
Messages: 2,144
Mentions "j'aime": 483
Quoting: Islesforthecup
No one wants andersen hes a bust


Are you dumb? Or are you just high right now? A goalie who has been a starter, and a very good one at that, for 6 years in the NHL is a bust? By that definition there would be like 3 goalies in the NHL right now who wouldn't be considered to be busts
chungus a aimé ceci.
26 nov. 2020 à 13 h 37
#8
Démarrer sujet
themostleaf33
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: sept. 2020
Messages: 2,144
Mentions "j'aime": 483
Quoting: JamesG23
This is similar to the one I did but I think it’s pretty balanced. Honestly, I think the Oilers get more value out of this.


Exactly, the Oilers will obviously need to be getting more value out of a trade in the extremely rare case that they did ever move McDavid, otherwise they would say no
Florida_Man_Maroon a aimé ceci.
26 nov. 2020 à 13 h 43
#9
Breadman likes Bread
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2017
Messages: 3,492
Mentions "j'aime": 1,729
There wouldn’t be a McDavid deal without Matthews coming back the other way imo.
yikes et Ddug a aimé ceci.
26 nov. 2020 à 13 h 45
#10
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2019
Messages: 6,287
Mentions "j'aime": 3,035
Easy no for the Leafs.

Reality is that McDavid is good for 20-30 more points a season than Marner. Hes a center but that doesn't really give the Leafs anything and hes worse in the defensive zone than Marner. 20-30 more points (less because defense) isn't worth a teams 2 top prospects and 2 1sts(and a downgrade in net but lets not even bother).
chungus a aimé ceci.
26 nov. 2020 à 14 h 8
#11
LongtimeLeafsufferer
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2015
Messages: 59,438
Mentions "j'aime": 22,639
In four years Matthews will be playing in New York or LA. In five years Tavares just might be retired. In six years Leafs will sign McDavid as a UFA.
26 nov. 2020 à 14 h 10
#12
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2020
Messages: 2,499
Mentions "j'aime": 2,085
Quoting: Byrr
Easy no for the Leafs.

Reality is that McDavid is good for 20-30 more points a season than Marner. Hes a center but that doesn't really give the Leafs anything and hes worse in the defensive zone than Marner. 20-30 more points (less because defense) isn't worth a teams 2 top prospects and 2 1sts(and a downgrade in net but lets not even bother).


it's the same paradox as when people are trading matthews on here. Most teams would rather keep their #2 LW, #3 RD, 1st's and prospects etc. than acquire matthews.

there would be so many holes left on the team that mcdavid wouldn't fill
26 nov. 2020 à 14 h 12
#13
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2020
Messages: 2,499
Mentions "j'aime": 2,085
Quoting: palhal
In four years Matthews will be playing in New York or LA. In five years Tavares just might be retired. In six years Leafs will sign McDavid as a UFA.


bonkers. what franchise is gonna let their 1OA captain walk in his prime for nothing after middling playoff success? And if he miraculously did, what's he gonna do, take less money and come play for the leafs?

get real man cmon
26 nov. 2020 à 14 h 13
#14
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2020
Messages: 4,897
Mentions "j'aime": 1,406
Quoting: themostleaf33
Are you dumb? Or are you just high right now? A goalie who has been a starter, and a very good one at that, for 6 years in the NHL is a bust? By that definition there would be like 3 goalies in the NHL right now who wouldn't be considered to be busts


Very good for 6 years? Hes the reason they lost to columbus. And yes i might be a little high.
26 nov. 2020 à 14 h 22
#15
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2019
Messages: 6,287
Mentions "j'aime": 3,035
Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
it's the same paradox as when people are trading matthews on here. Most teams would rather keep their #2 LW, #3 RD, 1st's and prospects etc. than acquire matthews.

there would be so many holes left on the team that mcdavid wouldn't fill


Ya, the thing people don't consider is if you are trading a guy like McDavid or Matthews, you are never going to get your perceived value in return. In that spirit, the most overvalued player on CapFriendly is Connor McDavid.
chungus a aimé ceci.
26 nov. 2020 à 14 h 36
#16
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2020
Messages: 2,499
Mentions "j'aime": 2,085
Modifié 26 nov. 2020 à 14 h 42
Quoting: Islesforthecup
Very good for 6 years? Hes the reason they lost to columbus. And yes i might be a little high.


4th highest save percentage of any goalie in the playoffs, alongside a shutout in a 5 game series, but k

9caa891726cbf89884aae748b66c3462.png

also, generally speaking, he's top 10 in the league at least in terms of save percentages every year he's been here (except this year where he struggled mid season, but so did the team). Even taking into consideration is awful 19-20 season, he's 13th in save percentage over the last 4 years, with WAY more shots than anybody else in the league faced against him

the reason the leafs didn't win is because they couldn't score. Korpi/Elvis were unreal and the leaf's bottom 6 was utterly useless for the entire series, save for one shift when robertson scored a goal
26 nov. 2020 à 14 h 44
#17
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2020
Messages: 4,897
Mentions "j'aime": 1,406
Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
4th highest save percentage of any goalie in the playoffs, alongside a shutout in a 5 game series, but k

Your basing this on a 5 game sample size.
26 nov. 2020 à 14 h 47
#18
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2020
Messages: 2,499
Mentions "j'aime": 2,085
Quoting: Islesforthecup


true, if we just look at goalies after the play-in round, he was still 6th

845df0bad7e63aff54179a668b8e1cb2.png

if we look at some of the goalies who didn't participate in the play-ins and include them, he still had a way better run than most of them did after the first round

350edee544805307f7b04f794769acb0.png

it's hard to find any data to point to the fact that he wasn't excellent
26 nov. 2020 à 14 h 48
#19
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2020
Messages: 4,897
Mentions "j'aime": 1,406
Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
true, if we just look at goalies after the play-in round, he was still 6th

845df0bad7e63aff54179a668b8e1cb2.png


He didnt play against better competition for his numbers to go down.
26 nov. 2020 à 14 h 55
#20
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2020
Messages: 2,499
Mentions "j'aime": 2,085
Quoting: Islesforthecup
He didnt play against better competition for his numbers to go down.


so you admit he had great numbers against CBJ then? He might've sucked later on, but he was not the problem in that 5 game series
26 nov. 2020 à 15 h 7
#21
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2020
Messages: 4,897
Mentions "j'aime": 1,406
Huh
26 nov. 2020 à 15 h 10
#22
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2020
Messages: 2,499
Mentions "j'aime": 2,085
Quoting: Islesforthecup
No


idk man, if I told you the leafs were gonna play a 5 game series and the goalie will post a .936sv%, a shutout and a 1.84 GAA, you'd prob be optimistic about the series

andersen was excellent, the team couldn't score a goal in 2 out of the 5 games
26 nov. 2020 à 15 h 12
#23
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2020
Messages: 4,897
Mentions "j'aime": 1,406
Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
true, if we just look at goalies after the play-in round, he was still 6th

845df0bad7e63aff54179a668b8e1cb2.png


Varlys numbers were league leading through the first 2 rounds but took a big hit against PHI, a better team than either the panthers or caps
26 nov. 2020 à 15 h 13
#24
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2020
Messages: 2,499
Mentions "j'aime": 2,085
Quoting: Islesforthecup
Varlys numbers were league leading through the first 2 rounds but took a big hit against PHI, a better team than either the panthers or caps


well, I can't judge andersen for games he didn't play. He played 5 games, and was excellent for the series
26 nov. 2020 à 15 h 14
#25
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2020
Messages: 4,897
Mentions "j'aime": 1,406
Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
well, I can't judge andersen for games he didn't play. He played 5 games, and was excellent for the series


Then dont put his numbers up for games he didnt play
 
Répondre
To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
Question:
Options:
Ajouter une option
Soumettre le sondage