I'm going to be painfully honest here. As much as I like Dermott and as much as he's underrated on this cite, that trade favours the leafs. The LA one is good, but boy, does that yotes one favour the pens.

Yes! You should be accepting that everyday!

Pens say no to all 3. McCann and MP are so young that if they are rebuilding, those are guys they should be rebuilding with. And no way they sell low on McCann. Nor should they be selling low on Rust. Especially after the season he just had.

The Toronto trade is horrible for PIT.
The others are ok but I don’t like the returns

The yotes one is bad for the pens... same with the kings one.
Let’s say MP, a top 4 D = Christian Dvorak, a 3C.
We paid more to acquire Zucker than a first. So pens are overpaying here.

McCann is definitely equal to more than a 3rd. Hard pass

Literally a 5 pieces of this AGM (2 signings, 3 trades) are bad for the Penguins. Half are actually horrible for the Pens.

Coyotes laugh.

Wow that leafs trade is bad. Rust is a Point per game player. Plus Riikola, who is similar to Dermott, If not better. And adding Rodrigues to the trade too. And only getting back a 4th and a 6th round pick.

The only trade I would be interested in doing is the Arizona one. Although, I want to see what Zucker does with the Pens in a full year 1st. He had 12 points in 15 games last year after traded to us. Let’s see what he can do in a full season 1st. He’s a 20 goal scorer. Scored 20 goals plus, 5 out of his last 6 seasons. Let’s see what he does now playing with Geno and Sid. If that was the trade offer though, that Arizona pick will probably be a lottery 1st rounder too. Top 15. Plus Dvorak, who is young, and can be our 3rd line Center, with McCann on his wing, for years to come.

And no way McCann gets traded for a 5th round pick. He has had back to back 35 points seasons. Only 24 years old, 1st round pick, and has played in the NHL since he was 19. And has been bounced around from top 6 wing, to 3rd line Center, to 3rd line wing. Now the pens plan on just keeping him on the 3rd line wing all season. Cause he’s more of a scorer than a play-maker. So on offense he can just mainly concentrate on scoring. He has a great shoot. He Can snipe!! And he’s a good two-player player. Good defensively too. Spends some time on our Second PK unit.hes gonna score 20 plus goals this season for sure, just playing on the LW full time!! Watch.

Right, this is the highest Rusts value has ever been!! He was a point per game player last year. He Had his break-out season. And if he does the same or close to it this year. Then his value is gonna be super high if we decided to trade him.

All trades decline. Penguins are NOT rebuilding. And for the last time.... BRYAN RUST IS UNTOUCHABLE IN PITTSBURGH.

I think you could improve without downgrading on RW and LD. Dermott fine but eh

Too much movement to be practical

Not close to enough from LA and big OP for Dermott

Ok, ya, I agree Mccan is worth more. But Dvorak is not a 3c. He's worth more than Pettersson if I had to guess. I don't know, maybe not.

I agree that leafs trade sucks for the pens, but Rust a point of game player? Riikola better than Dermott? Are you sure?

He plays 1C in Zona and has a career high of 38 points. He’s a low end 2C high end 3C

Rust is a point per game player. Look at his stats. He did it last year.

And Riikola came over from Russia. Same as Lehtonen. Was the captain of his team. Was a highly touted FA signing. It takes long for defensemen longer to adjust to the NHL I’ve size and the way more physical play. Some whole game in the KHL go without 1 penalty. And he put up good stats in limited games so far. Not limited minutes. He averaged 16 minutes a game. He slides into the 2nd pairing or the 3rd pairing. He plays both LHD and RHD both equally as well. The Pens rewarded him this off season with his 1.1M contract. Like I said, they trust him in the 2nd pairing. He would definitely be a starter on other teams. Yes, I would say him and Dermott are similar players if Riikola isn’t better. His analytics are great. And look at stats and term them out to 82 games.

My bad, I had no idea his point totals were that low.



Ok, he is a point a game player, my bad.
That's cool, with Riikola. I guess he sounds fairly similar to Dermott, but I still think Dermott is better, also Dermott is younger and has more potential.

Yeah I think his numbers surprise a lot of people. He should be in the 50-60s+ but he just hasn’t done it yet.

And I agree dermott > Riikola

Yes, I mean we’ll see more about Rust this year too. But if you traded him now, his value would be a PPG player. B/c he’s coming off a season in which he was. It doesn’t matter it was a shortened season. He still did it. And it’s like being an all-star. Or scoring 20 goals. Once u do it, u are always gonna be a 20 goal scorer, or an all-star player. You can’t take that away from them. It’s no longer potential. A potential all-star. Or potential 20 goal scorer. Once they did it, they proved it, they proved they can do it, they can can repeat it. If he does it again this year or even close, his value will be even higher.

And yes, Dermott probably has more Potential. Riikola came over at 25 as a FA agent signing. Just like Lehtonen this year for the leafs. He’s had a good 2 years though. Like I said, in limited games. But it’s not easy for European defenders to adjust to the smaller Ice rink. And all the board work. In Russian/European hockey, and the bigger ice and all the space, they don’t have to use the boards as much, and don’t. They Don’t use them 1/10 as much as we do in the NHL. And their game is all about speed(Cause the bigger ice rink), and the NHL is way more physical. It a lot harder for defenders to adjust. So he’s done pretty well. Dermott does have more potential though, being younger, a former 2nd round pick, and 2 descent years too. He’s underlying stats arnt great though. But the Leafs D was bad in general last year. We’ll really see this year when he gets his shot at a full-time spot!!