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This works well.... kinda.

Deal doesn’t work for Vancouver. No one to replace Gaudette.

the 3 team trade is very close for sure in terms of value.

PIT could throw in a jankowski/Erod/Lafferty/Angello to be a #4C for VAN

The Blues have no interest in that. We have bottom 6 guys and D-men falling out of our ears, and they're all much better than those two guys.

Neither of those players add any value to Detroit. Pass.

Zucker > Rakell

Still doesn’t work for cap reasons. Zucker alone creates issues for next season

Wings pass, we want a 3rd for bernier at the deadline, desmith and a 3rd would be fine, no need for reese.

Ducks pass easily. A mid six winger, a 3rd pair LHD they already have too many of and a cap dump doesnt make them even slightly interested in moving rakell. And they cant afford to move Stolarz atm unless they get a goalie back

I love how people say “ Detroit pass” or “ANA passes” like they are the GM..lol. Or “LAK want a 3rd for Bernier at the deadline”. Says who? Atleast say something like the GM said they were looking for a 3rd round pick for Bernier. And then link the article. Until you do that, It’s just an opinion of what they want back.

I would never say Pens pass!! No thanks, like I am the GM. I would say, why would the pens do that deal and give examples. Or me and Penguins fans would be happy if the Pens made that trade. I wouldn’t hate it. Or Pens fans would be pissed if that loop-sided deal was made. Not, Penguins Pass! Like I’m the GM and it’s my call.

You didn’t get the memo that Yzerman & Murray have multiple burner accounts on here?

Lol... It’s so funny to me. “no trade Wings Pass”. Ok says who? You? You didn’t even give an explanation of why they would pass. So funny.

Anaheim gets fleeced, dont see why they do that deal

I don't see them making a move on a goalie. It's not like DeSmith hasn't done the backup job before.

I don't know, this team has been softer before. I think it's hard for them to change that culture because they don't have the players too currently. It can't be one guy. It has to be a cultural shift and I don't see the team leaders being the guys to do that from the coaches to the captains.

It's not like they are CBJ with Foligno or WSH with OV.
You kind of need that guy and a few goons to go with them.
Honestly a team needs 3-4 big guys who are wiling to do the dirty work. One guy isn't going to fix the issue.

I don't know, this team will be making interesting choices soon. If OConner makes it up. If Caufield plays next year, if Gorman makes the team. Björkqvist is another one. Zohorna but I doubt he makes the team.
But you look at some of the kids they got coming. Just OConner, Caufield alone and you are adding two physical 6'3 and 6'4 guys. Legare is a physical player, Poulin is a physical guy given they are on the smaller end aka 6 foot and 6'2.. But they are physical.
Bjorkqvist is another heavy guy if he can ever make his way on. If they can transform their 3rd and 4th lines to physical but fast and some skill they can get somewhere. But it's a ways away. And guys like ZAR would be moved out the door for that to happen. I like ZAR but he's too small to be a physical guy. The same is true with McCann. So they need to sprinkle in 3-4 of these guys to change that culture. You add these guys to a Tanev who is a good hitter, a Legare and a Poulin and you start to have something when guys like Zucker and Kap and Rust are also willing to lay a hit.
You end up with a team with 7-8 guys willing to hit and a few with size willing to drop the gloves if they have to.

But none of that happens when your bottom 6 are McCann, Blueger, ZAR, Tanev etc...
They can play good hockey but other than Tanev none are really physical players like that. I mean ZAR has a bit in him, but like I said, he's small on the NHL level.
The penguins have made an effort to find bigger guys for that bottom 6, thats going to pay off in the next year or two. They will keep blueger and Tanve but I think guys like ZAR are going to be replaces with guys like OConnor. If McCann can't make a jump to center he might be out too unless he really breaks out.
I think they rather have a 6'2 Poulin on the LW than a 5'10 McCann. Given the top 6 stay as is.
Start to see some size on this team.

VAN doesn't have the cap space, also they don't need to make this move.

Yah, I guess I took ur 3C & backup 3C in Sutter. Sorry didn't even realize that.

I didn't even realize that I took both of their bottom 6 R-H- C's

I agree but I still think Rakell would out perform Zucker w/ Sid or Geno as a Center.

Look what Rakell did when Getzlaf was still a legit top 6 Center.

I think I made the trade just to get some Cap space back & get a real 3C

Thanks, I think I changed it like 12 times bf publishing it, lol

I just made the trade for STL to gain some cap space to sign Dunn & it seems like yinz have like 15 forwards already & both players would be in AHL

So True , my bro

I agree with all of this!!!! BUT I'd be happy with just 1 at this point, lol.

These ppl on here that say u don't need physical or edgy players anymore are just wrong & U are 100% correct about needing 3 - 4 guys that can hit, take a big hit, will go to front of net to move guys, isn't scared of going to dirty areas, will step up into a scrum, will take a cross check or give cross check, and will absolutely attack a player like a wild dog when they touch 87, 71, 58.

** I am soooo tired of watching 87, 71, 58 all get beat on & then Not 1 single player steps up for them.
It drives me crazy insane to the point of punching my table, like why are we the only NHL team that lets our stars get beat on & let them fight their on battles?? I DON'T GET IT??

I also like ZAR but he frustrates the S**t out of me!!! He will blow up guys & hit hard for 1 game then u won't see him make 1 hit until 15 games later??
And when he plays physical he ends up playing a much better game too??

amen brother.
It's one of the reasons they lost in the playoffs. They just pounded on Jake. You can't have a 40 goal winger getting killed. And The Mop was always sprawled out on the ice, so it was basically Crosby the only one on his feet.
That's why they paid so much for Kap 6'2 is harder to push around than 5'9 sheary. Some people just don't get this whole thing though. They think midget wingers are just as good. Once teams realize you can't do anything back, you are in trouble. It is what it is though. But we need a few years probably and by that time, this window is closed.