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Not A Marner Trade Leafs 2021-22

Créé par: DartGuy86
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 18 nov. 2020
Publié: 25 nov. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2900 000 $
21 100 000 $
21 100 000 $
32 600 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 250 000 $
33 200 000 $
21 500 000 $
43 500 000 $
32 200 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Kämpf, David [Droits de RFA]
CHI
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
2.
TOR
    Expansion
    3.
    TOR
    1. Aston-Reese, Zach [Droits de RFA]
    4.
    TOR
    1. Roy, Matt [Droits de RFA]
    LAK
    1. Liljegren, Timothy
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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    2023
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2281 500 000 $81 305 617 $0 $132 500 $194 383 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
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    UFA - 7
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    11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
    C
    UFA - 3
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    6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
    AD
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    796 667 $796 667 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
    C, AG
    NMC
    UFA - 4
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    10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    1 645 000 $1 645 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
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    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    764 167 $764 167 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
    C
    RFA - 2
    1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
    C
    UFA - 2
    1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    750 000 $750 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
    G
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    900 000 $900 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    894 167 $894 167 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3

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    25 nov. 2020 à 1 h 7
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    I think we keep Kampf for a 3rd which will be a late 3rd. He's a excellent 4th line defensive center and PK player
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    25 nov. 2020 à 1 h 22
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    Quoting: ChiHawk
    I think we keep Kampf for a 3rd which will be a late 3rd. He's a excellent 4th line defensive center and PK player


    You're not wrong. I'd pay more for him TBH.
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    25 nov. 2020 à 3 h 45
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    The penguins don't need another AHL level defense man.
    25 nov. 2020 à 3 h 48
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    Quoting: pharrow
    The penguins don't need another AHL level defense man.


    Yes you do.
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    25 nov. 2020 à 3 h 53
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    Quoting: pharrow
    The penguins don't need another AHL level defense man.

    TBH, I don’t know why people hate on Holl so much. He’s a solid 3rd pairing guy who has proven he can play higher in the lineup during a crisis.
    The only reason I moved him is because with Roy and Dermott on the right side, I just don’t have room for him.
    25 nov. 2020 à 3 h 54
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    Yes you do.


    LOL at least you're honest about it
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    25 nov. 2020 à 3 h 56
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    Quoting: DartGuy86
    TBH, I don’t know why people hate on Holl so much. He’s a solid 3rd pairing guy who has proven he can play higher in the lineup during a crisis.
    The only reason I moved him is because with Roy and Dermott on the right side, I just don’t have room for him.


    if you are replacing him with someone else so there is no room for him, that tells it all doesn't it. I mean people don't trade to replace players who they think are good.
    For example. No penguins fan is trading to replace ZAR. We're ok there. We got other issues.
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    25 nov. 2020 à 4 h 3
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    Pretty sure all leafs acgm need to include a nylander or marner trade
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    25 nov. 2020 à 4 h 14
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    Quoting: pharrow
    if you are replacing him with someone else so there is no room for him, that tells it all doesn't it. I mean people don't trade to replace players who they think are good.
    For example. No penguins fan is trading to replace ZAR. We're ok there. We got other issues.


    I get your point but improving at a position doesn’t mean the player you are replacing is trash. Even in this scenario, the only reason I’m keeping Dermott over Holl is because I think Dermott still has some upside and could break out yet. Holl, although he’s a solid 3RD, I don’t see him getting much better.

    Even if you don’t like the trade, would you at least agree he’s better than Ceci?
    25 nov. 2020 à 4 h 23
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    I get your point but improving at a position doesn’t mean the player you are replacing is trash. Even in this scenario, the only reason I’m keeping Dermott over Holl is because I think Dermott still has some upside and could break out yet. Holl, although he’s a solid 3RD, I don’t see him getting much better.

    Even if you don’t like the trade, would you at least agree he’s better than Ceci?


    he probably is better than Ceci, but that isn't the point. I don't see Ceci as their 3RD, they are going to go with Maniscalco at some point this season. He's just too good not to be playing on the NHL level.
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    25 nov. 2020 à 4 h 30
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    he probably is better than Ceci, but that isn't the point. I don't see Ceci as their 3RD, they are going to go with Maniscalco at some point this season. He's just too good not to be playing on the NHL level.

    Hey, fair enough.
    25 nov. 2020 à 4 h 56
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    There's really no reason for the Kings to do that, but if it were a 2021 2nd they MIGHT consider it.
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    25 nov. 2020 à 5 h 2
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    There's really no reason for the Kings to do that, but if it were a 2021 2nd they MIGHT consider it.


    Fair. In your opinion what would the ask be?
    25 nov. 2020 à 5 h 21
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    Fair. In your opinion what would the ask be?


    Tbh you're asking the wrong Kings fan. I love Matt Roy and have zero interest in trading him even if the return is a 1st round pick. Someone like @OldNYIfan might be a better person to ask
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    25 nov. 2020 à 5 h 25
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    Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
    Tbh you're asking the wrong Kings fan. I love Matt Roy and have zero interest in trading him even if the return is a 1st round pick. Someone like @OldNYIfan might be a better person to ask


    Okay cool. admittedly I don't follow LA that closely, and was just using the Muzzin trade as kind a template for this trade. Curious to hear opinions from Kings fans though.
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    25 nov. 2020 à 7 h 34
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    Matt roy is very overrated. If im the leafs, i keep the ELC liljegren

    Leaf fans forget how good liljegren is, hes not a bust yet.
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    25 nov. 2020 à 15 h 19
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    Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
    Tbh you're asking the wrong Kings fan. I love Matt Roy and have zero interest in trading him even if the return is a 1st round pick. Someone like @OldNYIfan might be a better person to ask


    Quoting: DartGuy86
    Okay cool. admittedly I don't follow LA that closely, and was just using the Muzzin trade as kind a template for this trade. Curious to hear opinions from Kings fans though.


    I really like Matt Roy, but I think that this trade is a no-brainer for an entirely unexpected reason: it allows Los Angeles to protect three additional forwards in the expansion draft, from which Liljegren is exempt but Roy is not. (Right now, I anticipate LA protecting Doughty, Clague, Walker and Roy.) To put it simply, if the LA scouting staff thought that Liljegren was a reasonable replacement for Roy and made this trade, I would be happy, and if they didn't, I'd be happy then too.
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