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HULU

Créé par: aliooop
Date de création initiale: nov 22, 2020
Publié: 22 nov 2020 à 17 h 50
Équipe: 2020-21 Canadiens de Montréal
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
Haula, Erik11 850 000 $
Transactions
MTL
  1. Fabbri, Robby
  2. 2022 4e round pick (VGK)
  3. 2023 7e round pick (DET)
DET
  1. Byron, Paul
  2. Ylönen, Jesse
  3. 2021 2e round pick (TBL)
  4. 2022 2e round pick (MTL)
Rachats de contrats
  • Karl Alzner: 3 958 333 $
Enfoui
  • Jordan Weal: 325 000 $ (1 400 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
CHI
WSH
MTL
STL
VGK
MTL
OTT
PHI
MTL
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
VGK
MTL
MTL
MTL
STL
2023
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
DET
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $81 441 309 $0 $3 137 500 $58 691 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
5 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
863 333 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
MTL
Anderson, Josh
5 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 7
DET
Fabbri, Robby
2 950 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
MTL
Toffoli, Tyler
4 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
4 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
MTL
Danault, Phillip
3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 1
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
3 750 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 1
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
2 400 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Haula, Erik
1 850 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
MTL
Armia, Joel
2 600 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
3 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Weber, Shea
7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 6
MTL
Price, Carey
10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 6
MTL
Edmundson, Joel
3 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 4
MTL
Petry, Jeff
5 500 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
MTL
Allen, Jake
4 350 000 $
G
UFA - 1
MTL
Kulak, Brett
1 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
MTL
Romanov, Alexander
894 167 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
MTL
Mete, Victor
735 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1

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22 nov 2020 à 18 h 42
#1
Buffbry
Rejoint: aoû 2017
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No picks going back to montreal and replace ylonen with poehling
22 nov 2020 à 18 h 45
#2
Rejoint: jui 2020
Messages: 1,396
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fair
Bergy et aliooop a aimé ceci.
22 nov 2020 à 19 h 28
#3
Rejoint: jui 2019
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This is a joke right ? I rather have Byron + Ylönen than Fabbri let alone the picks
22 nov 2020 à 19 h 43
#4
StevieY19!!
Rejoint: jun 2019
Messages: 631
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it's bad for both teams I think
aliooop a aimé ceci.
22 nov 2020 à 19 h 56
#5
Rejoint: aoû 2020
Messages: 175
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Quoting: buffbry
No picks going back to montreal and replace ylonen with poehling


Loooooooooooooooool

Homeboy alert
22 nov 2020 à 20 h 30
#6
Buffbry
Rejoint: aoû 2017
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Quoting: Bergy
Loooooooooooooooool

Homeboy alert


Nope you are wrong. Byron is a cap dump and fabbri worth poehling at least
22 nov 2020 à 22 h 04
#7
Rejoint: aoû 2020
Messages: 175
Mentions "j'aime": 30
Quoting: buffbry
Nope you are wrong. Byron is a cap dump and fabbri worth poehling at least


Fabbri does not worth a single 2nd round pick so let that sink in wink
I understand that he's top 6 in DET but he's a 3rd liner at best with every other team.
22 nov 2020 à 23 h 21
#8
Buffbry
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Quoting: Bergy
Fabbri does not worth a single 2nd round pick so let that sink in wink
I understand that he's top 6 in DET but he's a 3rd liner at best with every other team.


Disagree with you. This is a pass all the way from wings then
22 nov 2020 à 23 h 43
#9
Rejoint: aoû 2020
Messages: 175
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Quoting: buffbry
Disagree with you. This is a pass all the way from wings then


Lol What do you think he's worth then...
23 nov 2020 à 3 h 23
#10
Rejoint: jan 2019
Messages: 6,103
Mentions "j'aime": 2,199
Byron isn't going to be traded as a dump. If teams want him, they have to pay for him.
23 nov 2020 à 3 h 24
#11
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oki
23 nov 2020 à 3 h 25
#12
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Quoting: buffbry
Nope you are wrong. Byron is a cap dump and fabbri worth poehling at least











Sure buddy, whatever you think
23 nov 2020 à 6 h 21
#13
Buffbry
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Quoting: HabsForEver









Sure buddy, whatever you think


Right we are rebuilding though so byron to us is a cap dump, his stats mean absolutely nothing here for this argument. Same deal and take fabbri and the 4th out is more like it
23 nov 2020 à 6 h 38
#14
Rejoint: jan 2019
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Quoting: buffbry
Right we are rebuilding though so byron to us is a cap dump, his stats mean absolutely nothing here for this argument. Same deal and take fabbri and the 4th out is more like it


Detroit would be stupid not to take Byron for free, at the end of the day, you could always just flip him and get quality picks and prospects. I get he's rebuilding so he would fit better somewhere else, but he's literally a quality player that is being dumped in this scenario (which would never happen btw). Nobody in the league is just going to trade picks and prospects for nothing just for the sake of doing so.
23 nov 2020 à 9 h 14
#15
Buffbry
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Quoting: HabsForEver
Detroit would be stupid not to take Byron for free, at the end of the day, you could always just flip him and get quality picks and prospects. I get he's rebuilding so he would fit better somewhere else, but he's literally a quality player that is being dumped in this scenario (which would never happen btw). Nobody in the league is just going to trade picks and prospects for nothing just for the sake of doing so.


It's not for free if we have to give up fabbri though.

Also there have been 3 trades so far where a team gave up a player with a pick or prospect and received nothing in return for cap space
23 nov 2020 à 9 h 18
#16
Rejoint: jan 2019
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Quoting: buffbry
It's not for free if we have to give up fabbri though.

Also there have been 3 trades so far where a team gave up a player with a pick or prospect and received nothing in return for cap space


Did you see Fabbri's numbers? They aren't good, you could sign anybody in FA and they would likely do better than him.

I agree with you that Detroit shouldn't take Byron for free because of the current market, but Montreal also shouldn't trade Byron in the current market. It doesn't make sense for either team
23 nov 2020 à 9 h 20
#17
Buffbry
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Quoting: HabsForEver
Did you see Fabbri's numbers? They aren't good, you could sign anybody in FA and they would likely do better than him.

I agree with you that Detroit shouldn't take Byron for free because of the current market, but Montreal also shouldn't trade Byron in the current market. It doesn't make sense for either team


He looked good with us and we like him, we aren't going to trade him because you think his numbers don't look good and then want him in a trade. That's my favorite argument, the guys numbers are so bad he stinks, but we want him anyway. We aren't moving him for Byron, this is not the direction of our team. It's byron + 2nd + 3rd for futures or the deal is a no go.

My thoughts are trade byron to a playoff team so you can get value for him instead of have to give up value to get rid of him
aliooop a aimé ceci.
23 nov 2020 à 9 h 30
#18
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Quoting: buffbry
He looked good with us and we like him, we aren't going to trade him because you think his numbers don't look good and then want him in a trade. That's my favorite argument, the guys numbers are so bad he stinks, but we want him anyway. We aren't moving him for Byron, this is not the direction of our team. It's byron + 2nd + 3rd for futures or the deal is a no go.

My thoughts are trade byron to a playoff team so you can get value for him instead of have to give up value to get rid of him


It's not my thread, I didn't want Fabbri nor do I think he's worth that contract. If anything, I'd say it's Montreal taking bad a bad contract to give Detroit even more incentive to take Byron (Posters thoughts not mine). I understand what you are saying, but this deal doesn't work for either team. He's not a cap dump nor should he be. Detroit shouldn't acquire him because they don't want to be competitive and that cap can be used to help the rebuild.

I agree with your second statement completely.
buffbry a aimé ceci.
23 nov 2020 à 9 h 40
#19
Buffbry
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Quoting: HabsForEver
It's not my thread, I didn't want Fabbri nor do I think he's worth that contract. If anything, I'd say it's Montreal taking bad a bad contract to give Detroit even more incentive to take Byron (Posters thoughts not mine). I understand what you are saying, but this deal doesn't work for either team. He's not a cap dump nor should he be. Detroit shouldn't acquire him because they don't want to be competitive and that cap can be used to help the rebuild.

I agree with your second statement completely.


I noticed it wasn't your thread after I said that, sorry about that part. I agree this trade doesn't work either way.
HabsForEver et aliooop a aimé ceci.
25 nov 2020 à 0 h 04
#20
Démarrer sujet
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Quoting: AnyoneButTheBruins
it's bad for both teams I think


sarcasm
25 nov 2020 à 0 h 06
#21
Démarrer sujet
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Quoting: buffbry
He looked good with us and we like him, we aren't going to trade him because you think his numbers don't look good and then want him in a trade. That's my favorite argument, the guys numbers are so bad he stinks, but we want him anyway. We aren't moving him for Byron, this is not the direction of our team. It's byron + 2nd + 3rd for futures or the deal is a no go.

My thoughts are trade byron to a playoff team so you can get value for him instead of have to give up value to get rid of him


Byron trending downwards due to injuries.
Fabbri trending upwards due to recent play.
AnyoneButTheBruins a aimé ceci.
25 nov 2020 à 0 h 06
#22
Démarrer sujet
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Quoting: buffbry
I noticed it wasn't your thread after I said that, sorry about that part. I agree this trade doesn't work either way.


Disagree. Detroit gets a solid PKing vet to mentor the kids.
25 nov 2020 à 0 h 18
#23
Buffbry
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Quoting: aliooop
Disagree. Detroit gets a solid PKing vet to mentor the kids.


We have plenty of those guys already.thus is a full pass on the wings and not the direction they are going at all. You can disagree all you want but we aren't trading fabbri
 
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