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First Time Trying This

Créé par: TheNorthStar
Date de création initiale: nov 20, 2020
Publié: 20 nov 2020 à 19 h 07
Équipe: 2020-21 Red Wings de Detroit
Explications
My first time trying an armchair gm, please give me your thoughts on these moves.

So for the first trade, I thought that both of these teams owe these guys a fresh start, so I just had them exchange players.

For the Canucks trade, the Canucks need to get cap compliant, and also could use another defenseman, so they trade away Sutter and a 2nd to gain a decent bottom pairing defenseman while clearing cap space. Detroit Gains a pick as well as a veteran presence and 3rd line centre, as well as space for Moritz Seider. Sutter probably wouldn't waive his no-trade clause for Detroit, but you never know.

For the last deal, Edmonton gets an upgrade in net for a 3rd and 6th and Mike Smith. Detroit gets more picks. I don't see this going through because Mike Smith probably wouldn't waive his NTC, but then again, Yzerman was able to convince guys to go to Detroit multiple times this off season.

So that's all the trades I came up with, let me know if you think they're fair and would work.
Transactions
DET
  1. Ho-Sang, Joshua
NYI
  1. Svechnikov, Evgeny
  2. 2021 5e round pick (DET)
DET
  1. Sutter, Brandon
  2. 2021 2e round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Nemeth, Patrik (1 500 000 $ retained)
DET
  1. Smith, Mike
  2. 2022 3e round pick (EDM)
  3. 2021 6e round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Bernier, Jonathan (1 500 000 $ retained)
Rachats de contrats
  • Justin Abdelkader: 1 805 556 $
  • Stephen Weiss: 1 666 667 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Patrik Nemeth: 1 500 000 $ (50%)
  • Jonathan Bernier: 1 500 000 $ (50%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2021
DET
DET
EDM
NYR
VAN
DET
VGK
DET
DET
EDM
2022
DET
DET
DET
EDM
DET
VGK
DET
DET
DET
2023
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2481 500 000 $70 347 223 $0 $2 357 500 $11 152 777 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
DET
Bertuzzi, Tyler
3 500 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
DET
Larkin, Dylan
6 100 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
DET
Mantha, Anthony
5 700 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
DET
Zadina, Filip
894 167 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
DET
Fabbri, Robby
2 950 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
DET
Ryan, Bobby
1 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
DET
Namestnikov, Vladislav
2 000 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 2
VAN
Sutter, Brandon
4 375 000 $
AD, C
NTC
UFA - 1
NYI
Ho-Sang, Joshua
700 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
DET
Helm, Darren
3 850 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
DET
Filppula, Valtteri
3 000 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 1
DET
Glendening, Luke
1 800 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
DET
DeKeyser, Danny
5 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
DET
Hronek, Filip
714 166 $
DD
RFA - 1
DET
Greiss, Thomas
3 600 000 $
G
UFA - 2
DET
Staal, Marc
5 700 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
DET
Stecher, Troy
1 700 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
EDM
Smith, Mike
1 500 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 1
DET
Merrill, Jon
925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
DET
Seider, Moritz
894 167 $
DD
RFA - 3
DET
Biega, Alex
875 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
DET
Nielsen, Frans
5 250 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 2
DET
Zetterberg, Henrik
6 083 333 $
C
UFA - 1
DET
Gagner, Sam
850 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
DET
Erne, Adam
997 500 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Bertuzzi, T.
Larkin, D.
Mantha, A.
Hronek, F.
Zadina, F.
Avantage numérique 2
Ho-Sang, J.
Sutter, B.
Fabbri, R.
Ryan, B.
Seider, M.

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20 nov 2020 à 19 h 13
#1
RangerWall92
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I'll give you my honest opinion:

For your first one it's pretty damn good
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20 nov 2020 à 19 h 32
#2
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Want to give smith a chance to redeem himself from play in. If he craps the bed again this is a deal circle back to.
20 nov 2020 à 19 h 33
#3
StevieY19!!
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Quoting: RangerWall92
I'll give you my honest opinion:

For your first one it's pretty damn good


Ditto! Like the explanations. Doubt the EDM trade goes through because I don't think it's a trade that really pushes them to the next level of contending in the playoffs but it's still pretty fair. You may need to add a bit more on the Ho-Sang trade but it's pretty close. Overall though, solid first ACGM better than a lot that I see from guys who have done these for years because they are just so biased towards their team.
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20 nov 2020 à 20 h 27
#4
RangerWall92
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Quoting: AnyoneButTheBruins
Ditto! Like the explanations. Doubt the EDM trade goes through because I don't think it's a trade that really pushes them to the next level of contending in the playoffs but it's still pretty fair. You may need to add a bit more on the Ho-Sang trade but it's pretty close. Overall though, solid first ACGM better than a lot that I see from guys who have done these for years because they are just so biased towards their team.


Definitely better than my first one. I was getting flamed like there was no tomorrow
20 nov 2020 à 20 h 28
#5
Démarrer sujet
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Quoting: RangerWall92
I'll give you my honest opinion:

For your first one it's pretty damn good


Quoting: Timmah007
Want to give smith a chance to redeem himself from play in. If he craps the bed again this is a deal circle back to.


Quoting: AnyoneButTheBruins
Ditto! Like the explanations. Doubt the EDM trade goes through because I don't think it's a trade that really pushes them to the next level of contending in the playoffs but it's still pretty fair. You may need to add a bit more on the Ho-Sang trade but it's pretty close. Overall though, solid first ACGM better than a lot that I see from guys who have done these for years because they are just so biased towards their team.


Thanks guys, appreciate it!
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20 nov 2020 à 21 h 19
#6
NowAvoidingWork
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The fact that this is so well thought out trumps a lot of trades you see here on the daily. I also like that you did the disclaimer about these players NTC because one of the top responses to these things is "HE WOULDN'T NEVER WAIVE JOKAWEJNFOWAEFH!" You're always welcome to chime in about why too. ex: I think Smith and his family love it in Michigan, he's closer to his family in Kingston, he wouldn't have to share the crease as much, etc.

I love your first trade, after watching the Avs kill a change-of-scenery trade with Graves and Bigras, I fully support them. I think Svech for Ho-Sang makes a lot of sense for both clubs.

I think a second + Sutter would be how much it takes to get Nemeth, he is very solid as a 3rd pairing and is a good injury fill-in in the top 4 (watched him on the Avs). I like that to counteract that you're trading a bonafide bottom 6 + a 2nd for a 3rd pairing dman you made it clear it was a cap dump and those can be costly and Detroit has benefitted from a capdump for a 2nd already. Great research, I don't see the Canucks doing it. Canucks may want all their picks by the TDL for adding to their roster or for the expansion to control a bit who Seattle takes.

I think Bernier is the main goalie for Detroit and I don't seem them mortgaging Bernier for a 3rd and 6th, they've been in the basement for a little while now, they're looking to show the fans stability in some way they can and keeping Bernier does that for now. Plus he has been wanting a shot to be a #1 for a team forever now. At the TDL, there could be some pressure for buyers to add goaltending which could get them a 1st or 2nd possibly.

I think overall this is pretty good, I look forward to what other ACGMs you come up with in the future
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20 nov 2020 à 21 h 21
#7
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Quoting: BlastnyFromThePastny
The fact that this is so well thought out trumps a lot of trades you see here on the daily. I also like that you did the disclaimer about these players NTC because one of the top responses to these things is "HE WOULDN'T NEVER WAIVE JOKAWEJNFOWAEFH!" You're always welcome to chime in about why too. ex: I think Smith and his family love it in Michigan, he's closer to his family in Kingston, he wouldn't have to share the crease as much, etc.

I love your first trade, after watching the Avs kill a change-of-scenery trade with Graves and Bigras, I fully support them. I think Svech for Ho-Sang makes a lot of sense for both clubs.

I think a second + Sutter would be how much it takes to get Nemeth, he is very solid as a 3rd pairing and is a good injury fill-in in the top 4 (watched him on the Avs). I like that to counteract that you're trading a bonafide bottom 6 + a 2nd for a 3rd pairing dman you made it clear it was a cap dump and those can be costly and Detroit has benefitted from a capdump for a 2nd already. Great research, I don't see the Canucks doing it. Canucks may want all their picks by the TDL for adding to their roster or for the expansion to control a bit who Seattle takes.

I think Bernier is the main goalie for Detroit and I don't seem them mortgaging Bernier for a 3rd and 6th, they've been in the basement for a little while now, they're looking to show the fans stability in some way they can and keeping Bernier does that for now. Plus he has been wanting a shot to be a #1 for a team forever now. At the TDL, there could be some pressure for buyers to add goaltending which could get them a 1st or 2nd possibly.

I think overall this is pretty good, I look forward to what other ACGMs you come up with in the future


Thanks man, really appreciate the feedback!
21 nov 2020 à 2 h 09
#8
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Quoting: Timmah007
Want to give smith a chance to redeem himself from play in. If he craps the bed again this is a deal circle back to.


I’d give holland a solid A for his work in the offseason but his resigning of Smith drops it down to a C the smith signing was a huge gamble last yr that brought mix results at best he’s a yr older been injury prone though his career it’s a disaster in the making one Edmonton can’t afford Koskinen better stand on his head this yr for us to have a chance, with Klefbom out our defence is big question mark at this point can Jones step up and play 20 plus mins a night because asking Russell to do that is a huge red flag.
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21 nov 2020 à 8 h 13
#9
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I don't see the fit for the Edmonton trade, but the other two are interesting ideas. Maybe a few tweaks, but the thought process is solid.
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21 nov 2020 à 10 h 48
#10
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Quoting: GrinReaper
I’d give holland a solid A for his work in the offseason but his resigning of Smith drops it down to a C the smith signing was a huge gamble last yr that brought mix results at best he’s a yr older been injury prone though his career it’s a disaster in the making one Edmonton can’t afford Koskinen better stand on his head this yr for us to have a chance, with Klefbom out our defence is big question mark at this point can Jones step up and play 20 plus mins a night because asking Russell to do that is a huge red flag.


I don’t think smith is actually that bad he had an overall pretty decent season if it’s a short season this year which I think is fair to expect that just lessens reliance on him. The one thing I actually really really like about bringing smith back is more his personality around the team. He’s very outspoken which i personally feel is VERY lacking within that dressing room from veterans.
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22 nov 2020 à 12 h 23
#11
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Quoting: Timmah007
I don’t think smith is actually that bad he had an overall pretty decent season if it’s a short season this year which I think is fair to expect that just lessens reliance on him. The one thing I actually really really like about bringing smith back is more his personality around the team. He’s very outspoken which i personally feel is VERY lacking within that dressing room from veterans.


I will agree with you Smith does bring some fire and intensity to the room that is lacking all three of McDavid, Draisaitl and RNH are soft spoken quiet voices in that room, Lucic tried to bring it but his on ice performance lead to his voice being toxic in the room, I’m not sure Smiths voice in the room makes up for his pour play on the ice, just a little nervous in the faith Tip has in him to when Koskinen was badly out playing Smith Tip would throw Mike back in instead of just riding Koskinen when he was hot, see how the season turns out I guess.
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