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Équipe: 2020-21 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 20 nov. 2020
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  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (OTT)
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  1. Byron, Paul
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
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20 nov. 2020 à 18 h 15
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Why would you sign Kolvalchuk just to have him scratched?
20 nov. 2020 à 18 h 16
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Ottawa passes, Byron messes with their rebuild timeline
20 nov. 2020 à 18 h 23
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lol wut

If you want Byron, you are going to have to pay for him
20 nov. 2020 à 18 h 25
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Glad your not our GM because I can’t understand why you give a 1st and Byron to get a 5th round pick. It just doesn’t make sense.
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20 nov. 2020 à 21 h 40
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Byron is the type of player that will not cost you to move him, but you will not get anything worthwhile back. Very similar to Johnsson from Toronto to New Jersey.
20 nov. 2020 à 21 h 51
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Quoting: gmurrayt
Byron is the type of player that will not cost you to move him, but you will not get anything worthwhile back. Very similar to Johnsson from Toronto to New Jersey.


Byron's advanced analytics are way better than Johnsson's, but I know what you mean. There's no money in this market and it makes no sense to trade Byron
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21 nov. 2020 à 8 h 44
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Byron's advanced analytics are way better than Johnsson's, but I know what you mean. There's no money in this market and it makes no sense to trade Byron


I agree that over all Byron is a better player, but also older. In this market, the best value is to keep him.
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21 nov. 2020 à 14 h 12
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Ottawa passes, Byron messes with their rebuild timeline


Nah. You take the first.

OTT would accept this and then recoup another asset moving some of the absolute logjam of bottom/middle 6
21 nov. 2020 à 14 h 26
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Nah. You take the first.

OTT would accept this and then recoup another asset moving some of the absolute logjam of bottom/middle 6



What are you going to do next season when these are your forwards, and you add in Byron? And then the season after that when Pinto arrives?

Stuetzle
Tkachuk
Dadonov
Batherson
CBrown
Paul
Formenton
Watson
Balcers
Chlapik
Abramov


LBrown
Norris
White
Tierney


It's such an unnecessary add for a pick that won't compete for a spot until 25/26, and most likely as a middle or bottom six player.

BTW, recoup means trying to trade a player that is just as untradable as Byron.
21 nov. 2020 à 14 h 44
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Quoting: sensibleguy
What are you going to do next season when these are your forwards, and you add in Byron? And then the season after that when Pinto arrives?

Stuetzle
Tkachuk
Dadonov
Batherson
CBrown
Paul
Formenton
Watson
Balcers
Chlapik
Abramov


LBrown
Norris
White
Tierney


It's such an unnecessary add for a pick that won't compete for a spot until 25/26, and most likely as a middle or bottom six player.

BTW, recoup means trying to trade a player that is just as untradable as Byron.


You pay a 3rd to dump Watson.

You trade Abramov/Chlapik/Balcers for something

Its wouldnt be hard to make it work, and the value of an extra first next year is worth it. Byron would be off the books before the player selected would sniff the NHL and it wouldnt hurt our long term prospects to make the space
21 nov. 2020 à 15 h 17
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Quoting: PLDGEY
You pay a 3rd to dump Watson.

You trade Abramov/Chlapik/Balcers for something

Its wouldnt be hard to make it work, and the value of an extra first next year is worth it. Byron would be off the books before the player selected would sniff the NHL and it wouldnt hurt our long term prospects to make the space


"You trade Abramov/Chlapik/Balcers for something"

This is what every homer says!

Which teams are giving up assets for players that can't even make the Ottawa Senators lineup?

I'm not worried about Byron blocking some unknown pick 4 years from now, it's our prospects now he'd be blocking.

If Montreal does well, gets past the first round of the playoffs, which they should, then it's a bottom 8 pick in the draft.

These are the bottom 8 picks from four years ago

Henrik Borgstrom 58 NHL games
3LW Max Jones 89 NHL games
Riley Tufte 0 NHL games
3RW Tage Thompson 107 NHL games
4C Brett Howden 136 NHL games
Lucas Johansen 0 NHL games
Trent Frederic 17 NHL games
3C Sam Steel 87 NHL games

Four guys have roster spots, all in the bottom6.

It's just fantasy thinking you're going to recoup anything, and instead acquire a 31/32/33 year old, undersized bottom6 winger, that's in decline. Byron's cap hit is $3.4MM, that's a good 3C, not a declining bottom6 winger. 10 points in 29 games is a 0.345 PPG clip (28 points in 82 games) that's 4th line numbers, @$3.4MM per year, for three more years, when you can have a rookie at under $1MM get experience. All for a pick where the player has a 50%-50% chance to be a bottom6 forward in four years.

It isn't good asset management, and Dorion understands asset management. So you might take this trade, but I wouldn't and chances are neither would Dorion.
21 nov. 2020 à 15 h 18
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Quoting: PLDGEY
You pay a 3rd to dump Watson.

You trade Abramov/Chlapik/Balcers for something

Its wouldnt be hard to make it work, and the value of an extra first next year is worth it. Byron would be off the books before the player selected would sniff the NHL and it wouldnt hurt our long term prospects to make the space


Every team wants your A prospects, not your B prospects. They get added to trades, they aren't the primary piece.
21 nov. 2020 à 16 h 58
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Quoting: sensibleguy
What are you going to do next season when these are your forwards, and you add in Byron? And then the season after that when Pinto arrives?

Stuetzle
Tkachuk
Dadonov
Batherson
CBrown
Paul
Formenton
Watson
Balcers
Chlapik
Abramov


LBrown
Norris
White
Tierney


It's such an unnecessary add for a pick that won't compete for a spot until 25/26, and most likely as a middle or bottom six player.

BTW, recoup means trying to trade a player that is just as untradable as Byron.


Mentioning 4th liner's is honestly hilarious. Byron is the 4th best player you mentioned there
 
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