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Créé par: Bigboi69
Équipe: 2020-21 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Date de création initiale: 18 nov. 2020
Publié: 18 nov. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
This might not be the most realistic but hey Tampa is rumored to be making two huge trades real soon so we will see
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 500 000 $
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3750 000 $
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56 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
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TBL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (SJS)
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TBL
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (CBJ)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
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TBL
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TBL
    Future considerations
    Ottawa gets a vet dman
    5.
    FLA
    1. Johnson, Tyler
    2. Lipanov, Alexey
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (TBL)
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    6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
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    UFA - 2
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    NMC
    UFA - 4
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    NMC
    UFA - 7
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    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
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    C, AG
    UFA - 3
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    4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
    AD, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA
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    759 258 $759 258 $
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    UFA - 1
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    UFA
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    900 000 $900 000 $
    AG, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
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    925 000 $925 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 5
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    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
    DD
    RFA - 1
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    9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
    G
    UFA - 8
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    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 3
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    G
    UFA - 1
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    6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    750 000 $750 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
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    C
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    18 nov. 2020 à 20 h 31
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    I like it.

    Does TB have any internal promotion candidates? Like Johnson, Palat, Gourde, etc.
    18 nov. 2020 à 20 h 43
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    How do Gourde and Palat not get the same return. Also how is Killorn not out since he has the least trade protection out of all the trade candidates
    18 nov. 2020 à 20 h 50
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    every team declines.
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    18 nov. 2020 à 20 h 59
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    Quoting: A_Habs_fan
    How do Gourde and Palat not get the same return. Also how is Killorn not out since he has the least trade protection out of all the trade candidates

    Palat is better
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    18 nov. 2020 à 21 h 16
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    "Im doing my best". ???? Does anyone really think all those NTC players on Tampa leave the Cup champs just to end their careers on poor teams?
    The big trades will be those unsigned RFAs
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    18 nov. 2020 à 21 h 54
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    Quoting: palhal
    "Im doing my best". ???? Does anyone really think all those NTC players on Tampa leave the Cup champs just to end their careers on poor teams?
    The big trades will be those unsigned RFAs


    Yeah but most Tampa Fans believe there is an easy way out of their mess. But when you 9-11 Mil cap space to sign 3 top shelf RFA's and basically all the expensive contracts have trade protection there is no EASY way out.
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    18 nov. 2020 à 22 h 12
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    every team declines.


    You make me laugh
    18 nov. 2020 à 22 h 13
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    Quoting: A_Habs_fan
    How do Gourde and Palat not get the same return. Also how is Killorn not out since he has the least trade protection out of all the trade candidates

    Palat is much better
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    18 nov. 2020 à 22 h 14
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    Quoting: palhal
    "Im doing my best". ???? Does anyone really think all those NTC players on Tampa leave the Cup champs just to end their careers on poor teams?
    The big trades will be those unsigned RFAs


    Would you rather get sent to a team that wants to trade for you or get put on waivers and hope a team picks you up if not spend the rest of your contract in the minors?
    18 nov. 2020 à 22 h 14
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    Quoting: Campabee
    Yeah but most Tampa Fans believe there is an easy way out of their mess. But when you 9-11 Mil cap space to sign 3 top shelf RFA's and basically all the expensive contracts have trade protection there is no EASY way out.


    Yes their is, it’s called waivers
    18 nov. 2020 à 22 h 36
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    No chance Habs are interested
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    18 nov. 2020 à 23 h 38
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    Quoting: A_Habs_fan
    How do Gourde and Palat not get the same return. Also how is Killorn not out since he has the least trade protection out of all the trade candidates


    Palat is better and is signed for less term
    18 nov. 2020 à 23 h 45
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    Quoting: moli92
    Palat is better and is signed for less term


    Palat is a negative value and sharks are not paying a 2nd for you’re cap dump! Sorry but Palat like Johnson will take a 1st if not more to move.
    18 nov. 2020 à 23 h 51
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    Quoting: Revans292
    Palat is a negative value and sharks are not paying a 2nd for you’re cap dump! Sorry but Palat like Johnson will take a 1st if not more to move.


    I'm not a TBL fan or the poster of this AGM so he's not my cap dump

    I disagree about the negative value though. It'll be hard to find a suitor for him now that they waited so long but he's still good enough to justify paying him 5.3M. If I was Sakic then I would've been happy to put him on the Avs before Saad filled that role
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    18 nov. 2020 à 23 h 54
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    Quoting: moli92
    I'm not a TBL fan or the poster of this AGM so he's not my cap dump

    I disagree about the negative value though. It'll be hard to find a suitor for him now that they waited so long but he's still good enough to justify paying him 5.3M. If I was Sakic then I would've been happy to put him on the Avs before Saad filled that role


    No doubt he’s a good player but in my opinion his value is closer to 3.7-4.25 per year not 5.3 I feel he is overpaid and knowing Tampa needs to move him to sign other players makes me not want to give anything of value.
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    19 nov. 2020 à 1 h 9
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    Quoting: Bigboi69
    Would you rather get sent to a team that wants to trade for you or get put on waivers and hope a team picks you up if not spend the rest of your contract in the minors?


    no team is picking up these guys on waivers. Just like they didn't do TJ.
    They aren't worth the cap hits. Gourde isn't worth 5.1 million for 5 years. Palat isn't worth 5.3, he's hasn't even been a 20 goal scorer for the last 6 seasons. 20 goal guys make 3-3.5...why the hell would they pay 5.3 for one?
    Paquette is a 4th liner. No one is trading for that.
    Coburn is done. he's gonna be 36 with declining play and battling injuries at 35+ isn't helping.
    Even at one year, a team would need defensive help before running out to get him and he's have to waive....which isn't gonna happen.
    He's probably the most moveable piece there. But even that's unrealistic.

    Dumping them in the AHL doesn't solve their problems. it saves what1 million in cap. That isn't going to do it which is why it won't happen.

    Teams aren't taking these deals without TB paying and probably retaining. You might be able to move Palat at 3.5, if teams are willing to over look the injuries the last 3 years.
    But with a hand full of teams able to afford that cap hit, most of them probably unwilling to take it without getting something, good luck.
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    19 nov. 2020 à 7 h 48
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    No chance Habs are interested


    Lol all habs fans do is complain about their team being too weak they would love yhis
    19 nov. 2020 à 7 h 54
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    Quoting: pharrow
    no team is picking up these guys on waivers. Just like they didn't do TJ.
    They aren't worth the cap hits. Gourde isn't worth 5.1 million for 5 years. Palat isn't worth 5.3, he's hasn't even been a 20 goal scorer for the last 6 seasons. 20 goal guys make 3-3.5...why the hell would they pay 5.3 for one?
    Paquette is a 4th liner. No one is trading for that.
    Coburn is done. he's gonna be 36 with declining play and battling injuries at 35+ isn't helping.
    Even at one year, a team would need defensive help before running out to get him and he's have to waive....which isn't gonna happen.
    He's probably the most moveable piece there. But even that's unrealistic.

    Dumping them in the AHL doesn't solve their problems. it saves what1 million in cap. That isn't going to do it which is why it won't happen.

    Teams aren't taking these deals without TB paying and probably retaining. You might be able to move Palat at 3.5, if teams are willing to over look the injuries the last 3 years.
    But with a hand full of teams able to afford that cap hit, most of them probably unwilling to take it without getting something, good luck.


    Lol you obviously don’t know anything about these players palat is a top 6 guy, gourde is a top 6 guy, you don’t get a top 6 guy for cheap look at Hoffman, Johnson wasn’t picked up off waivers because he’s been aging badly, the other 3 have not teams would pick them up in a heart beat
    19 nov. 2020 à 9 h 46
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    Quoting: Campabee
    As you can see from all of his comments Bigboi69 THINKS he knows everything and everyone else is just stupid. Everytime someone disagrees with one of his comments his response is "you know nothing about hockey" or "your stupid" or he calls you a 12 year old or 6th grader. The guy has some serious self esteem issues, he has to insult everyone rather than just have a conversation. Just look back through all of his conversations with anyone who disagrees with him.


    Ahh yes the “bigger man” has returned I would like you to go back and find where I called them 6th graders or 12. And if I had self esteem issues I would have submitted to them and lol I call them stupid or said they know nothing after telling them why they are wrong you say I don’t have actual arguments which is false, now go be salty somewhere else or ima put you on the ignore list
    19 nov. 2020 à 10 h 48
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    Ahh yes the “bigger man” has returned I would like you to go back and find where I called them 6th graders or 12. And if I had self esteem issues I would have submitted to them and lol I call them stupid or said they know nothing after telling them why they are wrong you say I don’t have actual arguments which is false, now go be salty somewhere else or ima put you on the ignore list


    OH PLEASE do cause you will just prove my point LMAO!!!
    19 nov. 2020 à 10 h 50
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    OH PLEASE do cause you will just prove my point LMAO!!!


    What point? You make things up to get a reaction. Bye bye
    19 nov. 2020 à 10 h 51
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    What point? You make things up to get a reaction. Bye bye


    LMAO that you can not accept that maybe another person on the planet knows as much as you do or more.
    19 nov. 2020 à 11 h 47
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    Quoting: Bigboi69
    Wow You’re stupid palat has very high value especially after that playoff run, he will get a first before Tampa pays anything to move him


    How very rude of you, reverting to name calling doesn’t make you right. If he is worth a 1st they would have traded him already as they need the space badly or they are going to lose their RFA but what do I know?
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    19 nov. 2020 à 11 h 48
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    How very rude of you, reverting to name calling doesn’t make you right. If he is worth a 1st they would have traded him already as they need the space badly or they are going to lose their RFA but what do I know?


    Bruh if it weren’t a flat cap palat gets a first now that there’s a flat cap he gets a 2nd to 3rd but you thinking that he has negative value means you just don’t know anything
    19 nov. 2020 à 12 h 3
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    Quoting: Bigboi69
    Bruh if it weren’t a flat cap palat gets a first now that there’s a flat cap he gets a 2nd to 3rd but you thinking that he has negative value means you just don’t know anything


    Really!!! Then why hasn’t he Been dealt? Why Hasn’t Johnson?
    The flat cap, the uncertain future of the cap and both their long term and diminishing play make them negative values, no were near the Vlasic scale obviously but negative none the less. Tampa’s desperation to shed salary also plays into this as well
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